Arms PVP (54/17/0) by Fierss

Possibly 2 points out of imp hamstring for imp slam, depending on how rage generation and GCD usage is at 80, since the glyph makes up for those 2 points. Imp execute is amazing, not only because it's extra dmg on your sudden deaths, but because if your sudden death proc takes your opponent under 20% hp, you can instantly execute a 2nd time, with the 10 spare rage from sudden death.

Imp Rend because the way things are looking, Rend's actually worth using on anything that you're not worried about CCing. It ticks for a ton. I'd pick up trauma too, but I'd rather keep what I have in imp hamstring. You could drop 1 from imp HS and Anger management (though I <3 AM, since you often sit at 9, 14, 29, etc, rage, trying to execute, SR, MS, etc, and you know it'll only be 1-2 seconds before you can get off the ability) to get imp trauma. Imp hamstring is basically a good talent, but if you value trauma and/or imp slam higher, that or AM are where the points come from. Personal taste. And, even with imp rend and/or trauma, taste for blood is a terrible PvP talent.

Arms (57) - ERROR - SPEC NAME LISTS POINTS AS 54

Improved Heroic Strike0/3
Deflection3/5
Improved Rend2/2
 
Improved Charge0/2
Iron Will3/3
Tactical Mastery3/3
 
Improved Overpower2/2
Anger Management1/1
Impale2/2
Deep Wounds3/3
 
Two-Handed Weapon Specialization3/3
Taste for Blood0/3
 
Poleaxe Specialization0/5
Sweeping Strikes1/1
Mace Specialization0/5
Sword Specialization5/5
Weapon Mastery2/2
 
Improved Hamstring3/3
Trauma0/2
Second Wind2/2
Mortal Strike1/1
Strength of Arms2/2
Improved Slam0/2
Juggernaut3/1
Improved Mortal Strike1/3
Unrelenting Assault3/2
 
Sudden Death1/3
Endless Rage2/1
Blood Frenzy5/2
 
 
Wrecking Crew1/5
  
 
Bladestorm3/1
  

Fury (14) - ERROR - SPEC NAME LISTS POINTS AS 17

Armored to the Teeth1/3
Booming Voice5/2
Cruelty1/5
 
 
Improved Demoralizing Shout0/5
Unbridled Wrath0/5
 
Improved Cleave1/3
Piercing Howl3/1
Blood Craze1/3
Commanding Presence0/5
Dual Wield Specialization2/5
Improved Execute0/2
Enrage0/5
 

Comments:

InsaigneJan 10, 2009 - 10:10 PM (HideShow)
Why 1/5 Imp demo over 2/5 Booming voice
SkillisaprocJan 13, 2009 - 12:19 AM (HideShow)
Why 3/3 hammy instead of 2/2 unrelenting assault, I like to 1v1 other melee plz
FierssJan 13, 2009 - 8:22 PM (HideShow)
1/2 booming voice, because you can double shout in ruins of lordaeron with 1/2, but not 2/2.

The point in imp demo is a throwaway point, but I'd rather have it there than UW usually, especially the way melee is atm. I would probably move 1 from commanding presence to imp demo if I could redo it, but it doesn't matter.

3/3 imp hamstring because a peel often saves games, while you'll rarely have the chance to spam overpower every second against anything. Rogues usually don't just sit there with you on them. You're either stunned, CCed, slowed, or they're killing your partner(s), not going toe-to-toe.
SkillisaprocJan 15, 2009 - 1:32 AM (HideShow)
Not just rogues, DK's, and other warriors too.

And I'm talking about revenge too, not just overpower.

Revenge goes for, 2-3k on plate or around there? 1 sec CD with you'll be doing crazy damage, pop shield block and revenge spam.
SkillisaprocJan 15, 2009 - 1:41 AM (HideShow)
Also, do you really want to double shout with the way the game is now?

And booming voice also increases the range of demo shout. When a rogue sprint/vanishes, this could make the difference.
TheerockJan 16, 2009 - 4:53 AM (HideShow)
i really would like some1 to tell me why their is only 3/5 in Deflection and 2/2 in imp rend and not 5/5 in Deflection????

Ok so your running this set u have imp rend though u don't put points in Trauma dropping that point in Unrelenting Assault????????????
FierssJan 16, 2009 - 5:36 PM (HideShow)
Dks and warriors don't proc overpower more than once every few seconds realistically. Revenge doesn't do 2-3k dmg on plate, at all, and you'll do more dmg leaving D stance and dpsing once the threat is over.

I can always reshout myself, so yes, I do. Extra pressure in the first few seconds can set the tone of a fight.

1/2 booming voice is close enough for me to catch rogues. I prefer piercing howl anyways, though demo if they have a speed buff.
SkillisaprocJan 17, 2009 - 2:09 AM (HideShow)
Forgot the word "crit" there, but with 33% crit sword and board, and getting 3 or 4 revenges off, one is likely to crit.
BrutalzzFeb 6, 2009 - 1:50 PM (HideShow)
What is better Maces or axes right now?
FierssFeb 8, 2009 - 5:13 PM (HideShow)
Fury.

Between the two, it depends on what you're having trouble with. Maces will be superior vs holy pallies and possibly DKs, but worse against low armor targets.
GazandoomFeb 11, 2009 - 8:29 AM (HideShow)
If you got to have "Improved rend"(I think it`s a waste) At least take 3/3 into "Taste of Blood". But even better, just drop it.
MormakFeb 13, 2009 - 10:08 PM (HideShow)
i dont think focusing on rend can be a waste.. i dont know for you but mine tick for about 1.1k +200-400 from deep wound... having a continuel 1.5k tick dot on a target when ur cc cant be a bad thing and sionce it does even more when he is high on HP it totaly make a diff. except for absorbtion since it lower ur damage so at the same time ur rend value.
TilldawnFeb 17, 2009 - 7:08 AM (HideShow)
Good Talentbuild, I think instead of "Glyph WW" i would prefer "Glyph Execute" because of the Sudden death nerf.
BoethiahFeb 25, 2009 - 5:03 PM (HideShow)
Is the 3/3 points in imp hamstring really worth it? I have the glyph of hamstring, because the warrior glyphs suck, it seems more benificial to throw those 3 points in imp charge and fill up unrelenting assault.
SteeliMar 4, 2009 - 6:29 AM (HideShow)
I use this spec http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kor'gall&n=Steeli
Thinks its the optimal Arms PVP spec atm, for arena and 1v1
SilenthroMar 27, 2009 - 8:43 AM (HideShow)
I would like to ask if you have tried the 52/8/11 spec for PvP.I tried it several times and it looks it gives a lot of survivability in the cost of some DPS and regeneration.

Could you gimme your opinion as well?
Here is the link : http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LV0Ibfht0fMRccRthxZbht
MormakApr 9, 2009 - 4:46 AM (HideShow)
If arms/prot is how you feel the best you may want to try a softer spec whit the stun... hum.. concution blow?... its not optimal but for a plyer more defensif it may be what you will like... i personaly like in 3.1. Still not optimal :)
TonexApr 21, 2009 - 2:00 PM (HideShow)
Imp MS is useless when u want execute > Overpower > MS
UndergearedApr 25, 2009 - 2:41 PM (HideShow)
Wouldnt it be better to just not spec into improved rend and go into improved charge?
As arms Im experincing some rage problems and charge is used alot more because of juggernaught
AvenalMay 1, 2009 - 1:40 PM (HideShow)
EWWWWWWWWWW

Poleaxe Spec or GTFO

A simple disarm + hammy works better than spending talent points to spec into it.

Taste for blood is amazing now, you can overpowerpwn anything.



Vapori / KerniaMay 7, 2009 - 4:14 AM (HideShow)
Outdated spec, can we get a new one up with the latest Talent tree?

Even as is I'm not a fan of your choices in the Fury tree at all. Way too scattered and Armored to the Teeth seems pretty lack-luster >_<
EnntreriMay 7, 2009 - 1:37 PM (HideShow)
Update this please as is this spec is terribad.
MoosecabooseMay 11, 2009 - 9:27 AM (HideShow)
Bump, this spec is bad. Also update please with new talents. So you picked up imp rend, skipped trauma, and taste for blood. Rend gives 4 (rough estimate at 5 in the morning) overpowers if you have 3/3 in taste for blood, noting that this spec has 0/3. 1 second overpower cool down (2/2 UA with only 1/2 in this spec :O) with 80% crit with a guaranteed OP every tick of rend. I think that you'd be better off spending a few more points in arms rather then getting 2 throw away points getting (in my opinion) an overrated imp execute. Its personal preference, but really sudden death shouldn't be the game plan to be the deciding factor of games.
GilictMay 13, 2009 - 2:59 AM (HideShow)
This is my current build for pvp
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Laughing+Skull&n=Gilict&group=1
it has some slight flavor points, like mace spec and blood craze, otherwise, its pretty cookie cutter.
SilenthroMay 15, 2009 - 9:03 AM (HideShow)
As an Arms warrior i'm currently playing with this spec :
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Genjuros&n=Silenthro&group=2

Yes, i know i lose quite a lot of instant reflects and survivability from Tactical Master 0/3 but i find it quite better spec for Bursting damage.
Having Improved Execute is giving you a lot more burst when your target is at 20% and gain a Sudden Death proc since you can actually execute him twice, plus by having 2/2 at Improved Charge makes you use some more skills since you never go out of rage.

p.s At the link i'm probably using PvE gear so dont poast anything about that please :)
LimpwoodMay 15, 2009 - 11:37 PM (HideShow)
In my opinion- http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LcrcdfIzVfrRzGuio0xxo
SwordanboardMay 16, 2009 - 5:11 PM (HideShow)
Update please.
NecrolyteMay 16, 2009 - 8:26 PM (HideShow)
This spec is handicap
NyteshadeMay 20, 2009 - 2:31 PM (HideShow)
^ lmao
FullbackJun 2, 2009 - 4:36 PM (HideShow)
Update please :)
ArgeshJun 7, 2009 - 5:33 PM (HideShow)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Thorium+Brotherhood&n=Argesh

This is my pvp spec,err one of them is depending on which one im speced into but right now it should be my pvp spec, and glyph wise, replace my mocking blow glyph with glyph of enduring victory, forgot to change it =o
ShalberJun 18, 2009 - 4:12 PM (HideShow)
update needed, pretty please
KraverJun 22, 2009 - 5:33 PM (HideShow)
Update spec please
NithiumJul 7, 2009 - 1:14 PM (HideShow)
What about mine?
SlagoJul 8, 2009 - 1:07 AM (HideShow)
yes, please update this garbage spec, been here for 8-9 months already follow up on new patches even though a few talents are horrible its close to the real deal but somthing is definatly missing
RaxjJul 8, 2009 - 11:03 PM (HideShow)
K THIS IS NEW SPEC

3/5 def
2/2 rend
3/3 Iron will
2/3 tm
3/3 wep spec
3/3 deep wounds and 2/2 impale
3/3 Tfb
5/5 Axe or 5/5 Mace depends if ur str or arp gemmed etc...
1/1 SS
2/2 Wep mastery
3/3 Imp Hamstring
2/2 Trauma
1/1 MS
3/3 Imp MS
2/2 UA
1/3 SD
1/1 Endless Rage
2/2 Blood Frenzy
5/5 Wrecking Crew
1/1 Bladestorm

Fury is ez l2spec.

least this is my spec
u can change and go 3/3 SD but ull have to lose pts in imp HS. up to you.

DeeviousJul 17, 2009 - 11:52 PM (HideShow)
What does everyone think of Raxj's spec, I don't have enough PvP experience to comment on it, I'm just keen to find a good PvP spec.
DuslolJul 21, 2009 - 9:33 PM (HideShow)
Raxj, that isn't fury its arms and for you Deevious check up some top warriors and look at their spec.
RaxjJul 26, 2009 - 6:52 PM (HideShow)
No shit thats Arms.
Im not gona show people how to spec Fury is what i meant by Fury is ez l2spec lol
SlagoAug 16, 2009 - 10:39 PM (HideShow)
you glorious bastards i think i've got and i'm willing to share. plzz. give some feed bak good or bad we all in the same boat gttn thrown overboard and underused. have to chek me out in the armory. srry no fancy 500 numbers and letters to look it up. VAMP THIS!!
TankzorAug 19, 2009 - 3:44 PM (HideShow)
above shown talent points are so bullshit , u can save talents points by using glpyhs for example glpyh of hamstring , there are errors like 1/1 anger managment , wtf ? arms warriors have endless rage , completlely useless talent spec. i can post a better one with a complete explanation for every single talent point and glyph...
RusticAug 21, 2009 - 6:07 AM (HideShow)
Tankzor
Yeah, because it was posted in January. It isn't an accurate representation of the current state of Arms. I'm pretty sure that's obvious to anyone who plays a warrior. Raxj's post on Jul 8, 2009 - 7:03 PM is the more commonly used Arms spec as I am posting this.
DracmusSep 2, 2009 - 2:33 AM (HideShow)
I find this spec to be lacking, and more importantly, not used by many warriors seeing as there are alot of flaws that i see.
I Prefer: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LcbIdfct0frozGuVohxxs:IsqMz0
the only argueably part of that spec would be 5/5 deflection or 3/5 with 2/2 in imp rend, seeing as its speced into Taste of BLood and Trauma, i think that the extra damage + glpyh makes a good dent in the other teams health :)
good luck!

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