Affliction (54/17/0) by Pookette
4/5 in Shadow Embrace only because I really don't know what else to take a point out of.
Dark Pact is useful situationally and I need at least one into Improved Felhound for it to work.
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  Pyrilus | Dec 31, 2008 - 2:28 PM (HideShow) |
| It's a good spec, but I never really see myself using Dark Pact. You'd really have to train yourself to use it. But otherwise, yeah, one point out of Dark Pact that gets put into Shadow Embrace and this is the spec that I use for Affliction. | |
| Torment | Dec 31, 2008 - 3:21 PM (HideShow) |
| I find dark pact extremely useful as you can use it twice while still maintaining a good amount of mana on your felhunter (cs/devour). If mana permits, I'll dark pact before life tapping against almost any comp. Great spec, but my only concern is soul siphon, as I would definitely put more points in suppression until 4%, which is hard to achieve with 1 point and gear. | |
  Gantha | Jan 8, 2009 - 10:57 AM (HideShow) |
| Granted i have yet to lvl my lock from 70 to 80, everlasting afflicton seems to much of a pve talent to max out. I'd drop all but maybe one from EA max out Deaths Embrace, imp felhunter (to make DP your "goto" spell for mana), and shadow embrace. as well with taking a point out of fel conc and life tap for suppression. my spec will look like this at 80 http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Icx0rdrAkiqRcskbxczsM | |
 Pookette | Jan 9, 2009 - 3:55 AM (HideShow) |
| Basically as Torment said, if my pet has mana I'm using Dark Pact. It's really good If I'm just taking heavy damage. Also it makes the VW less useless since he at least gives you some mana when needed. As for not being able to cap hit, I basically have 5% hit atm just from deadly offpieces + S4 shoulders. You will "need" 6% starting next patch when they finally fix racial resists so it's def possible to cap hit w/o going out of your way too much. That point is easily moved into imp CoA but it's just personal preference. Don't forget Soul Siphon also affect drain soul. | |
 Aprion | Jan 10, 2009 - 1:51 PM (HideShow) |
| what is your rotation atttack Pookette? | |
| Apocalypser | Jan 16, 2009 - 11:26 AM (HideShow) |
| Against teams with a dispell you would put UA up and if you have time Haunt followed by instants and then immolate. Most times it seems you are just trying to get any spell off. | |
| Apocalypser | Jan 16, 2009 - 11:26 AM (HideShow) |
| With a cast time. | |
| Pyrilus | Jan 16, 2009 - 8:04 PM (HideShow) |
| That's a good point Pookette as for when to use Dark Pact. I think I might give it a try for when I'm taking heavy damage and I'm both low on mana and low on HP. | |
| Deadslord | Jan 27, 2009 - 10:14 AM (HideShow) |
| i believe the best to do is take out some points from fel concentration and put more on shadow embrace 5/5 eradication... !!! | |
 Nephite | Jan 27, 2009 - 1:04 PM (HideShow) |
| plz take point out of life tap your only helping ppl kill you faster... | |
| Nephite | Jan 27, 2009 - 1:52 PM (HideShow) |
| Nephite | Jan 27, 2009 - 1:59 PM (HideShow) |
| oh and just so you know supprestion should be maxed for arena bgs dungions raids you name it. also take the 2 point out of imp fear. you was 2 talents just to slow for 5 secs. and pleeease get imp health stone. do i need to explain that healing is good? take the point out of eradication. and demonic brutality makes you bubble stronger so max that out. i see alot of stuff wrong here.... but its my opinion so trust me or dont your call | |
| Torment | Feb 1, 2009 - 6:08 AM (HideShow) |
| Improved life tap only affects the mana returned, not the health sacrificed. Suppression is relative to the amount of hit you have, so put as much points as you need to reach 4-6%. | |
| Bodileto | Feb 5, 2009 - 6:49 PM (HideShow) |
| i have been trying this out and there r a few things.... imp CoA is better than life tap, you should be dark pacting when needed, and when you dont teh extra 20% mana doesnt really matter b/c you are not in trouble when using life tap (also felhunter keeps mana high naturaly with teh talent) 5/5 Se is great. only need 1 in imp fear b/c it only lasts for 5sec and 15% movement is not much for 5sec... 2 in imp felhunter, so much nicer especially the buff with the 2 caster combo no need for grim reach i perfer the 2 in imp health stones for when you are facing heavy burst dps teams, also if you are running with a druid he can always keep a hot on your felhunter and if they burst your felhunter learn to move him away and fear them. i love when ppl attack my felhunter because it gives me time to kill them faster and put out fears. things to think about | |
| Bodileto | Feb 9, 2009 - 5:40 PM (HideShow) |
| it seems like its been a while and no1 has updated this spec. I would really like a current gladiator to tell em why this spec is the best in my 2v2 (resto druid working on gear)i focus their dps while he cyclones the healr/entangles the dps(or healr sometimes). on top of that i am fearing and spelllocking the healr too. our plan is generally to screw the healr up to the point where he has to blow his cds and eventually go oom. also they completely fixed mana drain so it is sooo usefull. plus if any warlock does research and keeps up with the times drain soul is OP when your target is below 25%, i try to remember to use it because i get 5-7k ticks (every 3 seconds i believe) when i use it. read the spell definition it does 400% more damamge when ur target is below 25% plus with the talent u get anout 60%, so 460% is the basic amount of damage inc (i dont know if the %inc in damage is additive). these r the reasons why i would like to see warlock talents updated a little bit. also my biggest problem is againts double burst dps (rogue, arcane mage, dk, ret pally, shamans) what do i do? i have 2 in imp health stone for those occasions and it seems i am stuck under 1600 because of these burst dps teams, is there something i should work on? (besides fearing like mad) or should my healr do something? i use demonic armor b/c its op but doesnt help when ur with a druid (really any healr cuz they get cc'd) | |
| Pookette | Feb 11, 2009 - 11:54 PM (HideShow) |
| about the update, since i now have 6% hit on pvp gear I'll just switch the point in suppression to imp CoA. | |
 Crisen | Mar 9, 2009 - 3:30 AM (HideShow) |
| What about the point in Eradication is it that important? | |
| Torment | Mar 11, 2009 - 3:47 PM (HideShow) |
| Pre 3.1 that one point in Eradication is important. Once 3.1 hits you will see most going 3/3. | |
 Lopennie | Mar 12, 2009 - 7:39 PM (HideShow) |
| I like this spec a lot, but how useful is the 2 points in Imp Fear? I mean it is nice to have when you dont want to toss on CoEx. Also is there any reason we do not take Death's Embrace? I know that you hardly find people below 35% but it does help when they are. also the extra healing when I'm low would be nice wouldn't it? | |
| Mexilion | Mar 20, 2009 - 7:41 AM (HideShow) |
| i think its good tree but i wouldnt put points im improved fear. -_- | |
| Desdemonna | Mar 21, 2009 - 8:12 PM (HideShow) |
| I'm rolling with the corruption, fear, and hot glyphs. I'm struggling to move up in the ratings because there is a few team combos I just can't beat for the life of me while others I don't seem to have any trouble with at all. My healer is a paladin. I can't seem to beat feral druid anything and rogue priest. Feral druids and rogues in general seem to work with any healer. I even lost in 2 seconds to rogue rogue and feral druid rogue. Feral druid rogue my healer trinkets the blind and gets cycloned with me dieing in seconds from full health. Any advice? | |
| Hinkel | Apr 13, 2009 - 9:31 AM (HideShow) |
| Well it depends what you are playing with Desdemonna... if it is with the pally healer, dot and fear the druid so he is forced to heal himself rather than cyclone you while he is busy, keep the rogue's dots up so he doesn't stealth and have your pally stun him, just unleash everything on the rogue at this point so it's you two on the druid. 1v2 on a druid should be cake | |
| Warlax | Apr 20, 2009 - 12:34 PM (HideShow) |
| Gonna update for 3.1. ? | |
| Sholazar | Apr 24, 2009 - 2:57 PM (HideShow) |
| Improved Felhunter is terrible. The felhunter has 7k mana, and 4% of nothing is how much? | |
| Pookette | May 5, 2009 - 3:12 AM (HideShow) |
| http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IzxMrurIkVAMhktbG0hkhb for what it's worth, this is my current spec, but i must say I hate being stuck on long games w/o a point in imp felhunter, I might just end up going w/ only 1/5 shadow embrace and get imp felhunter + put a point somewhere else. | |
| Lockton | May 15, 2009 - 4:06 AM (HideShow) |
| 2/2 in imp fear is useless if you use curse or exhaustion no? I chose this spec slightly different as if targets decided to both go for my pet i will try to summon a new one if it ever gets too far away from me so points go in imp HS to help againbst those double mellee times. Also i'm not a big fan of eradication seems like a waste of 3 points for a 6% chance for a speed increae for 10 seconds. During that time quite often your either kiting/ locked down/ cc'd or what ever. I prefer points in malediction for more crits of the dots. However full shadow embrace and eradication does seems a nice alternative i can't decide what is best. http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#Irx0burNkiVRhktbG0hkhb | |
| Locktox | Jun 2, 2009 - 10:10 AM (HideShow) |
| Lockton or Pookette! Could u please tell me your spell-rotation and prioritys spells that are important to keep up and so on, with your specs. It would be very nice to know since i only have played 00/40/31 in raids, so i am kinda new to the affliction tree :) Lockton: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#Irx0burNkiVRhktbG0hkhb Pookette: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IzxMrurIkVAMhktbG0hkhb | |
| Hungabove | Jun 2, 2009 - 12:39 PM (HideShow) |
| I don't if anyone has noticed this yet.. but there are a few changes in the warlocks talent build after the new patch. it would be amazing if you could put an updated version of this build up. thanks | |
 Riodon | Jun 22, 2009 - 11:12 PM (HideShow) |
| Im rolling lock soon, and im seeing a trend among demonology specs, about 17 points. What, to a noob, is the point of the placement of these particular point selections. And alos, with this spec, what pet is ideal, imp? Thanks. And again sorry for the ignorance. :) | |
| Ostrosco | Jul 1, 2009 - 5:42 PM (HideShow) |
| Riodon, The tree here is a little out of date, but 17 points is still relatively common. Most (if not all) PvP specs go down to Soul Link to help mitigate damage. The other talents are used to improve stamina, increase the effectiveness of your armors, and to heal your pet by 15% of the damage you deal. | |
| Tutenpooten | Jul 28, 2009 - 3:39 PM (HideShow) |
| The tree is pretty out of date, but for the things that haven't changed with it I'd fill uppresion so you don't have to use as much hit gems/enchants/misc. gear, I'd take these points out of Imp Fear, because the slow isn't all that helpful. I've never tried it before, but I like the Dark Pact idea. Also Pandemic is now 1 point, so I'd take the 2 points you get from that, and take the point out of Imp Felhunter, and fill Malediction, that SP is very helpful, and the crit chance(though as Affliction crit isn't something to rely on) is nice, seeing my UA and Corruption critting for 4K is hot. Lastly, I love Imp Life Tap, but I find in that it's eaiser to take advantage of your Eradiction procs and Life Tapping then immediately draining back the life you sacrificed with a really fast drain, I stack haste and have the Platinum Disks of Swiftness from WG so I drain a shitload of health in little time(the fast damage is cool too), therefore I wouldn't spec Imp Life Tap but fill Eradiction. That's pretty much my Afflic spec. The Demo part is the same as mine. | |
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