Retribution (Standard) (7/11/53) by Celeith
Advantages:
Reduced fear/disorient effects on you
Grounding breaks from eye for an eye
Cons:
Losing the 30% dot from judgment/cs/ds criticals which can be game breaking in either way.
Glyphs: Seal of righteousness and judgment are pretty much a must, if u feel like you need the extra survivability pick up salvation and if not, go with exorcism glyph for the 3rd spot
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Comments: | |
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  Vanus | Jan 25, 2010 - 3:25 PM (HideShow) |
| Is the calculator bugging? | |
  Celeith | Jan 25, 2010 - 3:31 PM (HideShow) |
| yeah it is | |
| Uthus | Jan 25, 2010 - 4:03 PM (HideShow) |
| How come you use seal of righteous? I find corruption or atleast Command better than Righteous. also i would of taken the points out of imp blessing of might and put them in sanctified wrath. Not sure about some of the other talents but i suppose its just what u use. not a bad spec. couldnt include some good damaging talents though (sanctified wrath:50% extra chance to crit with hammer of wrath, hand of freedom 100% to remove stuns: thats worth it in my books) | |
| Uthus | Jan 25, 2010 - 4:04 PM (HideShow) |
| could* | |
| Karatekamel | Jan 25, 2010 - 5:17 PM (HideShow) |
| 0/3 Sheath of Light? I bet you do 500 flash heals and 2k judgements. | |
| Celeith | Jan 25, 2010 - 5:46 PM (HideShow) |
| like said above its bugged ^^ real build: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Stormscale&cn=Celeith&group=2 | |
| Celeith | Jan 25, 2010 - 5:48 PM (HideShow) |
| and righteousness is superior to corruption in 3s atleast, takes too much time to stack it up, so it sucks on fast switches. also soc is good just for cleavecomp like ret warrior x | |
| Klyftigt | Jan 27, 2010 - 3:04 PM (HideShow) |
| 1/2 Art of War uhm, do i need to say more? 0/3 Sheath of Light Lolwut? 1/3 swift retribution? THIS TALENT IS SO UNNESSESCARY FOR PVP gogo | |
| Celeith | Jan 27, 2010 - 5:03 PM (HideShow) |
| can you read above comments before posting ^^ | |
 Rafiki | Jan 28, 2010 - 1:58 AM (HideShow) |
| im going to post things saying bad stuff about you even tho i have read the above! | |
 Apendix | Jan 29, 2010 - 1:37 PM (HideShow) |
| is it just me or is every spec on this site awful havent found a right one so far | |
| Sokea | Jan 31, 2010 - 7:08 AM (HideShow) |
| This kind of retridin is at least what I have my hardest time against. A good build imo from a healer's perspective, because it is really tricky to keep up with in healing. | |
 Cindiara | Jan 31, 2010 - 11:23 AM (HideShow) |
| Hi Celeith i was thinking about using shoulders and hands t10 next season, whats your view on the t10 and is the set bonus going to be any good , im running ret war. | |
| Tonnylol | Jan 31, 2010 - 4:41 PM (HideShow) |
| So funny when you're getting kited, then you gotta refresh 5 stacks of SoC/SoV, which gimps your damage ALOT. In my opinion im dealing more dmg with Righteoussness than anyother seals, but that is on single target that is. Gief Seal of Martyr/Blood back asap! Best seal ever | |
| Bulletz | Jan 31, 2010 - 4:57 PM (HideShow) |
| There is alot of talk that SOC will scale better with wrathfull. I have been runing 0/19/52 and it is not to bad. Glyph for SOC and mana doesnt become much of a issue with priest and mages. Just testing out different specs atm. | |
| Hylian | Feb 1, 2010 - 6:49 PM (HideShow) |
| I've gone with SoR because it has the highest Judgement dmg and when coupled with 5/5 Seals of the pure (15%) and the glyph (10%) more dmg. It seems to be more dominate. Obv 5 stacks of SoV has the highest judgement damage but between dispels, kiting, and switching the stacks off, i've stuck with SoR. Of course if you're going to be unloading on a resto druid for a while, you may benefit more from using SoV. Nothings stopping you from switch seals in combat, for the appropriate situation. | |
 Elieyss | Feb 2, 2010 - 12:25 PM (HideShow) |
| ok this spec sucks, first off idk wut your on but seal of command does more dps then any other seal, anyone who does not use it is a nub- it procs faster and does more dps then any other seal. which brings me to the holy in this spec. seal of the pure is just stupid because you need to be using seal of command which is not effected by seal of the pure. everything else i am ok with but Vengeance should be 3/3 cause of the dps. this spec does work, but all im saying is that a seal of command spec is better for pvp- idk about pve. | |
 Bron | Feb 2, 2010 - 3:33 PM (HideShow) |
| This spec is just horrible. -No sheath of light -No Sanctified Wrath -1/3 RV -Swift retribution 3/3 Kinda funny to see though. | |
| Bron | Feb 2, 2010 - 3:41 PM (HideShow) |
| And to Elieyss SoR > SoC | |
| Tonnylol | Feb 2, 2010 - 8:31 PM (HideShow) |
| Read above for christ sake! The AJ specc is bugged, he gave you the real link further up on the discussion.... sigh! | |
  Ioldudebaby | Feb 3, 2010 - 10:23 AM (HideShow) |
| Omg your talents are shit. Your life is shit. Kill yourself now cause talents are dumb brbbrbebebebrrbbeeb. But seriously, I'm wondering why you don't spec at all into righteous vengeance since it doesn't break repent anymore. Thinking of playing around with my ret this season and I'm not sure whether or not that's a waste of points for PvP. | |
| Ioldudebaby | Feb 3, 2010 - 10:24 AM (HideShow) |
| ^ I mean assuming you're playing with a warrior and you can take points out of vindication or something along those lines. If you have the points to spare, is it worth it? | |
| Tonnylol | Feb 3, 2010 - 1:33 PM (HideShow) |
| People cant read it seems. Lol, guys this specc is bugged. but ye, imo 7/11/53 is the best specc around for rets nowadays | |
| Celeith | Feb 4, 2010 - 5:11 AM (HideShow) |
| reading comments is hard ive heard | |
| Cindiara | Feb 4, 2010 - 2:40 PM (HideShow) |
| celeith not sure if u saw my post but anyway , Do u think using two tier 10 will be good in arena, is the 40% chance to refresh divine storm better then using 5/5 arena set. | |
| Celeith | Feb 4, 2010 - 4:27 PM (HideShow) |
| in 2s its worth it for sure, in 3s its depending about ur comp etc, i wouldnt use it but if comes down to personal preference how do you feel about ur mana and such. | |
| Celeith | Feb 4, 2010 - 4:27 PM (HideShow) |
| it* | |
| Crescendo | Feb 6, 2010 - 12:54 AM (HideShow) |
| Hey I'm in no way saying this spec is bad but i really like the spec that im using http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZEG0hZVfbtrIuGdIbsz:M0A Ive been tossing up the divine storm glyph and Exorcism glyph trying them both out atm for just bg's i use divine storm for arenas i use Exorcism. Comment on this spec and let me know how bad you guys think it is thanks. | |
| Celeith | Feb 6, 2010 - 4:43 PM (HideShow) |
| how is this still not fixed :x | |
| Amrast | Feb 7, 2010 - 10:03 AM (HideShow) |
| Must say the build is very nice THIS ONE http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Stormscale&cn=Celeith&group=2 :P for those who dont wish to read above - yet to try it as I have been retired pvper for like 4 season - hoping to get back into the swing of things | |
| Sanctuz | Feb 9, 2010 - 5:32 PM (HideShow) |
| Is there any way of suggesting a build? Got one which is pretty neat for 3v3 arena. | |
 Lowmana | Feb 10, 2010 - 5:45 AM (HideShow) |
| http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?paladin#ilwW8B_AVUIMO,,11403 What you think about it? I play with feral druid and mm hunter ( my feral dispells hexes instantly) but I really don't know if go for guidience 3/3 hoj 2/2 or guidience 2/2 Imp dev 3/3. My hoj's are on dr with maim and as cc.. to be honest my team got enough cc on healer but wthout proper interrupts i usually have to just spam heal them I play 2/2 imp hoj right now but i barely use it every cd ( only thing I immagine I use hoj on cd is when preist come to fear me ) And I don't want to stat In't having innervate make me to go for full haste/sp | |
| Lowmana | Feb 10, 2010 - 5:46 AM (HideShow) |
| should be ofz guidience 2/5 or 2/5 :) | |
| Celeith | Feb 12, 2010 - 10:33 AM (HideShow) |
| fix pls. | |
  Triangle | Feb 16, 2010 - 2:30 PM (HideShow) |
| Celeith, sorry if this comes across as a stupid question, but what do you mean by "Grounding breaks from eye for an eye"? Also, how have you felt about your choice of not taking Righteous Vengeance? | |
| Celeith | Feb 16, 2010 - 5:42 PM (HideShow) |
| I feel like im doing enough damage as it is, and because RV proccs off divinestorm it can fuck my hunters cc and be gamebreaking that way so at the moment i havent decided to specc it yet. and eye for an eye procc breaks grounding totems so thats what i meant with it :P | |
 Doomxd | Feb 23, 2010 - 9:37 PM (HideShow) |
| Celeith best ret EU <33 | |
| Phoenix | Mar 4, 2010 - 12:33 PM (HideShow) |
| Я ЕБУ ТАЛЫ НУБСКИЕ И ПИШИТЕ ВСЕ ПО РУССКИЙ УЧИТИЕСЬ БЛЯ!хуле переводить | |
| Mightypally | Mar 5, 2010 - 7:42 PM (HideShow) |
| Hey celeith why don't you spec into the improved divine sac since they buffed it so its like a aoe pain sub plus the extra ss asorb and you get the extra 6% reduced damage but kinda of pointless cause of the mana cost and can be purged and dispelled(rightous fury) | |
| Celeith | Mar 6, 2010 - 8:54 AM (HideShow) |
| 15% damage for judgements and seals are too much to lose for it imo | |
| Galet | Mar 7, 2010 - 8:29 PM (HideShow) |
| Maby i didnt get it right, but you say Eye for an eye breaks grounding? i tried it 1 min ago against an ench shammy and it didnt break his grounding? Explain please... | |
| Cowboydan | Mar 14, 2010 - 10:19 PM (HideShow) |
| 3/1 crusader strike? wtf lolz | |
| Silvermojo | Mar 17, 2010 - 6:51 PM (HideShow) |
| I dont really like this spec tbh | |
| Celeith | Mar 17, 2010 - 9:47 PM (HideShow) |
| still not fixes oh god :( | |
| Celeith | Mar 17, 2010 - 9:47 PM (HideShow) |
| fixed even* | |
| Silvermojo | Mar 19, 2010 - 3:31 PM (HideShow) |
| Celeith IK it's still not fixed. I use a different spec even though I pvp as protret | |
| Elff | Mar 21, 2010 - 5:18 AM (HideShow) |
| Elff | Mar 21, 2010 - 5:18 AM (HideShow) |
| this speck suxs like hell | |
| Celeith | Mar 27, 2010 - 6:23 AM (HideShow) |
| fix please | |
| Protius | Apr 3, 2010 - 1:24 PM (HideShow) |
| Celieth, Thats not a bad spec, it doesnt say what ur running tho? 2v2/3v3/5v5? I have started 2v2 my self as ret, with my partner player ret aswell, wierd combo i know but we do ok. I have found tho, the SoR is better than SoV, especially for 2s'. I wouldnt bother with Divine sacrifice tbh, put the points into Imp RF for the 6% reduction. Swift Ret isnt much use either. Also, i think points in eye4aneye are wasted. 10k crit on u equals 1k back to them, then after the resil reduce, they take about 300 damage if ur lucky. It need buffing if its gonna have any effect in arena tbh. Dont waste ur points in it. My only other point is, i use 2pts in divinity (as they are spare), this helps with gaining abit of hp back in a long fight, just switch to SoL, judge and DS, and u can gain quite a bit back, especially if ur just beating down on a dk/warr/rogue. | |
| Mariyn | Apr 6, 2010 - 11:29 AM (HideShow) |
| looks like the calculator is still bugging.. link to the build: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sV0bZVGzZVfrxdIuGdIbsz | |
| Bboys | Apr 17, 2010 - 7:20 PM (HideShow) |
| first off let me say i kno my teams nd such suck...been playing my driud alot...here is the spec i've been using for a while and it seems to work pretty well. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Eredar&cn=Bboys&gn=were+bad+youre+worse what do u think about it Celeith? i think i should take the 1point out of divinity and put it into RV? | |
| Bboys | Apr 19, 2010 - 7:12 PM (HideShow) |
| nvm bout the 1 talent in divinity | |
| Peron | May 18, 2010 - 12:34 PM (HideShow) |
| im a lil ify on that set up... | |
| Darkmaiden | May 19, 2010 - 1:11 PM (HideShow) |
| as long as im alive 3/17/51 should be best talents | |
| Darkmaiden | May 19, 2010 - 1:13 PM (HideShow) |
| and btw real paladin is human paladin | |
 Eskepeto | May 29, 2010 - 1:14 AM (HideShow) |
| YO GUYS UR ALLL STUPID , THE TALENT CALCULATOR ITS BUGGED RETARDS! | |
| Littlesuzy | Jun 17, 2010 - 7:11 AM (HideShow) |
| I got a question since most attacks of a paladin is spells aint it better to gem SP instead of strength? | |
 Boozcheese | Jun 29, 2010 - 4:01 AM (HideShow) |
| u probably dont deal much damage. | |
| Hariberu | Jun 29, 2010 - 7:16 PM (HideShow) |
| Aside from the comments above... Would it not be worth taking 1 point from Judgements of the Wise and putting it in Righteous Vengeance? Purely because the 8sec cd on judgements, nearly 2 in the 15sec duration of replenish which would have a 66% chance to proc; is the righteous vengeance dot a magic debuff? Might be something dispellers may waste mana/time on. | |
| Dextery | Jul 7, 2010 - 12:46 PM (HideShow) |
| this spec sux learn how to build spec reatard | |
| Aspharr | Jul 23, 2010 - 3:45 PM (HideShow) |
| LOL you people need to learn to read. THE SPEC IS BUGGED | |
| Ihatebloodba | Jul 30, 2010 - 12:26 PM (HideShow) |
| YEA LOL NOW WE NOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE STUPID IN THE WORLD ITS BUGGED HE SAID SO MANY TIMES | |
| Sinvius | Aug 13, 2010 - 1:24 PM (HideShow) |
| are best glyphs SoR, Judgement and Salvation? please tell me which are better if these arent the ones =D | |
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