Holy (Standard) (54/17/0) by Isabis
Advantages:
Sacred Cleansing - must have vs wizard cleaves
Judgements of the Pure - 15% haste for faster dispelling/healing. Paladins heals are big enough already, haste is the best way to improve your healing output.
Pure of Hearth - reduces duration of Hex and Curse of tongues by 30% and also makes you more resilient against DKs.
Disadvantages:
Losing few point in Intellect - can easily be fixed by using some PvE gear and gemming it with int.
Hammer of Justice - I rarely find myself in situation to use HoJ in 3s and 5s because I'm playing defensively all the time so I'm on the opposite side of arena then my opponents are including their healer. That's why I skip this talent.
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Comments: | |
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  Demonrip | Jan 25, 2010 - 4:16 PM (HideShow) |
| Horrible spec, take this off your site. | |
 Veronica | Jan 25, 2010 - 5:43 PM (HideShow) |
| Agreed. This sucks | |
 Brotatoz | Jan 25, 2010 - 6:46 PM (HideShow) |
| awful | |
| Vya | Jan 25, 2010 - 7:12 PM (HideShow) |
| could be better ><, i guess everyone specs different :/ | |
  TipToePro | Jan 25, 2010 - 7:24 PM (HideShow) |
| 51 holy 20 prot is better for the hammer, especially in 2's. | |
  Rafiki | Jan 25, 2010 - 9:50 PM (HideShow) |
| its a decent 3s 5s spec nothin special | |
| Isabis | Jan 26, 2010 - 10:30 AM (HideShow) |
| It's 3v3/5v5 spec it just doesn't say in title. | |
 Felic | Jan 26, 2010 - 10:44 AM (HideShow) |
| 51/20 with aura or 54/17 like this, where u decide if u want spellpower or intellect. There is no such spec as "THE ONE". He should just mention this that this is the 2 talentdistrubution people are arguing about. And the player gotta decide where to put the 54 or 51. ANd imp HoJ for 2v2?? please rofl get over that shit bracket | |
 Sáph | Jan 26, 2010 - 11:16 AM (HideShow) |
| This is a good spec, I would probably go for more int, but that's just a matter of paladin playstyle. | |
| Elmó | Jan 26, 2010 - 12:07 PM (HideShow) |
| Only thing I would edit about this spec is the pure of heart, I'd use 3/5 Divine intellect with a mage/resto shaman in the team also. Also I'm fairly sure most of the people posting here are clueless so. Nice spec Isabis :) Also: Imp hammer rofl 2v2 legends | |
| Might | Jan 26, 2010 - 10:33 PM (HideShow) |
| Pure of Heart 2/2.. so you would really spend 2 points on a talent that just reduces a bit Hex's duration ? :> I have a crazy spec, but i dont think 3/3 Improved Devotion Aura is useless, because all we have to in 3s is mainly (70%) healing ( 25% freedom, sacrifice, DS, cleanse & hop ) and sometimes stun someone to score a kill - depends a lot of your comp -, so i really think that talent is really good unless your playin with a resto druid - maybe as dual healer -, for other comp i will always take it. As Vya said " i guess everyone specs different :/ ". | |
 Sorith | Jan 29, 2010 - 4:53 PM (HideShow) |
| Horrible spec | |
| Ázark | Jan 29, 2010 - 10:23 PM (HideShow) |
| Hmm spec is fine, you can use that or i just put 2 points into imp hoj and get 2 points out of jotp. nothing wrong with spec. if u have mage in your team u don't have to spec pure of hearth ofc | |
| Fongplox | Jan 31, 2010 - 8:29 PM (HideShow) |
| It's funny, most of those that are trash talking your spec don't even have glad :P | |
| Sorith | Jan 31, 2010 - 10:29 PM (HideShow) |
| Imo change pure of heart and add those 2 to divine int. | |
| Phuriya | Feb 1, 2010 - 4:38 PM (HideShow) |
| Nice spec:). Almost the same as me, ive put more points in int, cuz i dont have access to that much pvegear. I actually didnt spec Lights Grace this seasons as i barely got to use holy light in my spellcleave team. I donno if you guys find urself using holy light alot if ur playing with squishier targets like mage/shaman? Btw, gotta love Fongplox comment, cuz being tough over teh internetz is cool. :p | |
| Might | Feb 3, 2010 - 11:48 PM (HideShow) |
| Hi, i took a second look to this spec. 1) Pure of Heart = Useful against shammies, and only against them. Warlock's Curses are spammable i think.. Do ya want to waste ( yes, to waste ) 2 point in a talent that just reduces a bit Hex's duration ? Tbh, i agree that Hex is really horrible as holy pally, but i dont think its horrible enough to spend 2 point into -30% on its duration. This talent seemed Okay during s5 because survival hunters had very long sleep poison, thats all. I loled a bit when ive read " and also makes you more resilient against DKs". Even without Resilience, i highly doubt that a skilled holy pally might die against a good dk ( alone ofc ). 2) I personnaly took only 3/5 in Holy Power, its just a bit more chance to get a crit, getting 4% more inte ( inte = crit, sp, manapool improvement ) is more attractive. I also got a pretty ridiculous amount of spell - and im not even full non-set s8... ( i currently have something like 3400 spell & 920 resi ..) Maybe should we do others spec, i mean, there are a lot of specs that looks very intresting as holy pally, i dont personnally guess that there is one that beats all others, im thinkin it depends of your playstyle. Tho, i have doubt when i see some holy paladins running with Imp HoJ without playin dual healer. Its very dangerous to leave your pillar against most of teams now, i dont get how its possible to score a stun on someone each 40sec.. | |
| Dominatrixy | Feb 5, 2010 - 10:01 AM (HideShow) |
| Good spec for me, i think divine int is not so good for pvp, because the pvp set don´t have enough int to use this, example: with 1272 int points without the talent, you will gain 93 int points with 4 points on divine int: 93 int = 1395 mana = 0.56% crit = 18 sp The only thing that really hurt me here is 1400 less mana, even thus 4 points is so much, and i prefer expend in pure of heart, if my team don´t have dispel curse. If im wrong correct me plz | |
| Îmmune | Feb 11, 2010 - 2:37 PM (HideShow) |
| This is pretty much the cookie cutter spec for 3s/5s...I don't know what everyone is going on about. The only thing I would change would be putting points into imp devo aura or divine int vs holy power | |
| Quwin | Feb 14, 2010 - 9:21 PM (HideShow) |
| Lol all of you ragging on this spec are probably bad. This is a decent spec, especially for 5s and kinda for 3s. depending on the comp you run imp hoj might be better for 3s but its a good spec | |
| Zeemolol | Feb 15, 2010 - 2:36 AM (HideShow) |
| Great spec I love it. | |
| Lowmana | Feb 18, 2010 - 6:19 AM (HideShow) |
| Mayby I don't know what I'm talking about , but How bonus, even 100 sp, could be better then 6% more healing output from imp devotion aura? | |
  Seiku | Feb 24, 2010 - 12:11 AM (HideShow) |
| to all you flaming him for using pure hearth, consider how much dmg an elemental shaman and a warlock can do in 3 seconds (hex is 10 sec -30% = 7sec...) im play enhancement but when i go in s6 ele gear with s7 off set, i burst around 15-30k dmg in 2-4 sec and that's alone.. so + a warlock. i would go for pure hearth over int (no need for int with dead partners...) and about hoj, this is for 3v3 / 5v5 where you shouldn't get close to hoj too often, u get too vulnerable for a switch on you which prob will kill you. Might:3/5 Holy power and +4% int istead sounds like a good deal tbh only thing i might wanna change about Isabis spec. | |
| Zozakios | Feb 27, 2010 - 6:18 PM (HideShow) |
| holy shit it sux :P | |
| Cutîe | Mar 6, 2010 - 11:54 AM (HideShow) |
| Uhhm... it suxx ! :P | |
| Sokea | Mar 6, 2010 - 9:16 PM (HideShow) |
| For both 2v2 and 3v3: Drop Light's Grace since the likelyhood of ever using more than one single Holy Light at a time is very, very slim. 5/5 in Divine Intellect, 4/5 in Holy Power, keep Holy Guidance and JotP maxed. If wanting Improved HoJ I'd drop 2 points from JotP for 2v2, and 2 points from Holy Guidance for 3v3 (imo haste is more important than a little extra sp on Sacred Shield in 3v3). | |
| Isabis | Mar 22, 2010 - 8:49 AM (HideShow) |
| I'd suggest to people who read this don't listen to most replies coming from people with black text. They are mostly ~1.5k rated people and don't know much about their class in PvP. I don't know why they are allowed to post here. Ofc not all of them are like that, there are exceptional players among them so no offense to those but a guy with black text and comment "lol it sux" without any arguments clearly doesn't know anything about his class. Just a heads up for people reading this. | |
| Isabis | Mar 29, 2010 - 11:36 AM (HideShow) |
| Also, if you want to drop something from Holy tree for Improved Hammer of Justice read this thread: http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=149585 | |
| Narsa | Mar 30, 2010 - 7:58 PM (HideShow) |
| Im actually a new player to PVP, but thank you for the Info and guidance. This is way different than PvE lol XD. | |
| Gregofc | Apr 20, 2010 - 5:49 AM (HideShow) |
| i have this spec only difference is , 1/5 holy power and 5/5 divine intellect , works great imo | |
| Chanseylol | May 18, 2010 - 1:35 PM (HideShow) |
| this is Is very Bad. I have been using this Spec and it has work'd very well. http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=2&tal=503521503002130131025042215032013120300000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | |
| Powerlegend | Jun 27, 2010 - 1:31 AM (HideShow) |
| thats bad man i mean if it were for the Stun for 2's and 3's thats cool or the Improved Devo Auru for 5's then it wud be beast but this is just plan baddie | |
| Paladium | Jul 6, 2010 - 1:23 PM (HideShow) |
| agree with isabis, dont like it dont post, or dont use it, just sumone trying to help out. how about posting your own spec, insted of "it sucks" or "take it off your site.. | |
 Nuba | Aug 15, 2010 - 3:22 AM (HideShow) |
| i'd take 2 pts off judgemnet of the pure or holy guidance and put em in the ip HoJ even for 3s and 5s | |
| Powerlegend | Aug 21, 2010 - 6:49 PM (HideShow) |
| its not bad but i mean in a 2;s that stun wud be nice and in a 5's the Improved Devo Aura is also nice so in a 3's stuns is nicee For a PHD or TSG but this is kinda a pve spec to me lol GL LAWL | |
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