Standard Marksmanship (0/55/16) by Ahti
Straight up MM damage spec, there's a couple floater points that you can go for such as trading piercing shots or improved tracking into trap mastery or survivalist if you like the extra HP. Personally I just prefer the 5% extra damage over the improved traps or the 2k extra HP.
You can also take points from efficiency into focused aim if you're low on hit from gear, as there are 2 floater points to get into the 5th tier of talents. In fact, I'd recommend taking a hit piece or two off of the honor gear and getting crit instead.
Marksmanship (55)
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Comments: | |
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  Zephqt | Jan 11, 2010 - 4:12 PM (HideShow) |
| The spec is alright. IMO i would take 2 points out of piercing shots just for the bleed effect even though it wont be doing to much dmg just for the sake of keeping rogues out of stealth when they vanish. And put those 2 extra points into Efficiency. Just because being low on mana really sucks as a hunter and id want to max that efficiency to the most it could be. | |
  Wurd | Jan 11, 2010 - 8:45 PM (HideShow) |
| this guy is a huge virgin lol | |
 Bnastyy | Jan 13, 2010 - 1:55 AM (HideShow) |
| hahahahahahahahaha | |
 Syrael | Jan 13, 2010 - 8:05 AM (HideShow) |
| Looks alright, Zephqt; You don't really need it since you have your pet for that, or you just use aspect of viper. difference between those %'s isn't really much. | |
 Eltharyon | Jan 13, 2010 - 8:15 AM (HideShow) |
| syrael, the difference in the talents is HUGE when speaking in terms of pvp. and btw i don't really like his MM spec, i'd rather to take out these 3 points im imp barrage, as aimed shot still barely crits and even so it doesn't do the damage needed. | |
| Kharil | Jan 14, 2010 - 9:24 PM (HideShow) |
| hmm zeph is ranked 1,707th and syrael is unranked...who am i gunna trust... | |
  Omgudead | Jan 19, 2010 - 1:46 PM (HideShow) |
| I like the spec, but i would take out the points in Efficieny and Go For The Throat and put them into Improved Arcane Shot. | |
| Mildenhall | Jan 19, 2010 - 6:25 PM (HideShow) |
| What are the best glyphs to use with this spec? | |
| Yamsi | Jan 20, 2010 - 6:19 AM (HideShow) |
| would take the 3 points from improved tracking to improved arcane shot for more dmg mana wont be a problem with the right pet and a bit AotV | |
| Xmodus | Jan 20, 2010 - 10:43 AM (HideShow) |
| I agree Yamsi 3 points in arcane shot for more dmg is in my Opinion better than 3% extra dmg for all shots. Mildenhall best glyphs are: sting +6 Sec disengage - 5 Sec Aimedshot - 2 Sec 3 points from improved Tracking to improved arcane shot and 2 points from piercing shots in Survivalist for a bit more life (Full s7 would be + ~730 HP) All in all I would say this spec is viable for Glad ;-) (with these changes) | |
 Hypezokos | Jan 22, 2010 - 11:31 AM (HideShow) |
| I have the 2 points from Rapid Recuperation in LnL which is a good way to NEVER use Steady Shot at all. And of course 3x Arcane shot pressures even on targets in melee bubble. | |
| Shios | Jan 26, 2010 - 4:55 PM (HideShow) |
| 2/5 tracking 3/3 trap mastery | |
 Cravenica | Jan 28, 2010 - 6:36 AM (HideShow) |
| and whats a good specc for the marks ? :) is it the Spider/Crab or the serpent ? | |
| Cravenica | Jan 28, 2010 - 6:49 AM (HideShow) |
| a good pet* sorry :P | |
 Ahti | Jan 28, 2010 - 3:25 PM (HideShow) |
| "3 points from improved Tracking to improved arcane shot and 2 points from piercing shots in Survivalist for a bit more life (Full s7 would be + ~730 HP)" Definitely not, I can accept that the 5 points I put into piercing shots/imp tracking can be put into other areas such as survivalist or trap mastery, as it is more of an opinion call. When you're comparing two pure DPS talents, it begins to make more sense to compare them numerically. So let's look at 3 points in imp track versus imp arcane shot. Arcane shot = +12% damage on arcane shot Imp tracking = +3% damage on all your abilities 12% increase on one shot that does ~8-9% of our DPS yields roughly 1% more overall DPS for 3 points. That's compared to a whopping 3% overall DPS from imp tracking. Aka, it's essentially 1/3 of the DPS increase for the same amount of talent points. Arcane shot doesn't exactly fill any special niche for burst either, so even in the most skewered pools of burst data (an arcane shot crit while everything else doesn't crit) it might provide upwards of 12-15% of the total damage provided in a kill, still making it fall behind 3%. Trap mastery/survivalist are all potentially good choices, and a lot of it may depend on your team make up too. Playing with a crab and a paladin with freedom/dispel, the benefit of 3/3 trap mastery is greatly diminished for me. If you're playing say HLD, against melee you may have to rely more on your individual kiting abilities than supportive cooldowns from your teammates. "I like the spec, but i would take out the points in Efficieny and Go For The Throat and put them into Improved Arcane Shot." I could understand taking points out of efficiency for arcane shot if you're hellbent on damage, but GFTT is pretty essential. With high end gear it gives your pet nearly an endless amount of focus so that you can put claw/bite on auto cast, effectively doubling his DPS (which even in arena, significantly out does the minuscule +5% on arcane shot). It also allows you to intervene with claw on auto-cast. ":) | |
 Sharingãn | Jan 28, 2010 - 8:43 PM (HideShow) |
| It all comes down to how u play tho:P... | |
| Ergolol | Jan 30, 2010 - 3:51 PM (HideShow) |
| A couple notes: If you only play with a serpent and cant keep bite on autocast then 1 pt in Focused Aim (and pick up more crit gear) or else in Imp. Arcane Shot. Otherwise Imp Arcane shot is complete trash. (For those of you who support it, have you seen recount dmg, and done the math? run dps sims?) Both Imp Tracking and Piercing Shots come out better then Combat Expertise in terms of dmg output. I played with only 2 points in Efficiency for a while but would run into mana problems. Even switching to viper proactively to keep topped off is not ideal since it lessens the pressure. Since switching back to 4 or 5 points I've had significatly less problems with mana. | |
| Ergolol | Jan 30, 2010 - 3:58 PM (HideShow) |
| http://www.femaledwarf.com/ is a pretty solid dps simulator. | |
| Vanus | Feb 1, 2010 - 8:09 AM (HideShow) |
| My favorite Specc is this one: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cZ0eVcohdGusguVof0hrobh:0kfzM0 'Cause you have some extra Burst with LnL :P With a Spider you don't need GftT and i dont have mana probs ... | |
| Pifpaf | Feb 17, 2010 - 1:41 AM (HideShow) |
| Hey guys So u think MM is the best spec at the moment for pvp can someone explain me why not survival thanks | |
| Vanus | Mar 13, 2010 - 3:48 PM (HideShow) |
| What do you think about this specc? http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#cZ0eVcohdGIsgzVof0hbsbh:0kfzM0 you don't need a weapon chain and you have lnl for more burst and instants - mana regen is imo not really needed cause of short fights, 2x rapid fire and a spider ... | |
| Ninjå | Mar 26, 2010 - 1:11 PM (HideShow) |
| This spec is bad for arenas. Like mana Regen is not important in arena cause of viper sting, and go for the throat isn't needed at ALL, and with wild quiver you only have a 12% chance at 80% weapon dmg. not really worth all 3 talent points needed for it to stack that high. And if you don't go into surefooted in arenas, your a dumbass and survival tactics aren't needed at all, because AoE trap will take care of the 4 sec. CD on FD so ya bad spec | |
 Shiang | Apr 5, 2010 - 11:18 PM (HideShow) |
| I'm playing with holy pally and resto druid's in 2's what do you guys think about this spec http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cZbeVoohdGIsxuVof0fbobh or http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cZbeVoohdGIsxuVof0fbobh I think efficiency is preaty horible, adds no burst and rapid recuperation is much much better. please e-mail me would love to have your opinions. | |
| Shiang | Apr 5, 2010 - 11:19 PM (HideShow) |
| http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cZbeVoohdGIsguVof0Ibob sorry 2nd link is wrong. | |
 Sinvius | Jul 20, 2010 - 2:20 PM (HideShow) |
| what would people say about this spec: http://www.wowhead.com/talent#cZ0eVsohdGusxuVoI0hiob i dont know much about hunter pvp so i would like to check the spec is ok | |
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