| Zotto Tichondrius US-Bloodlust |
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| Feb 18, 2008 - 9:28 AM (HideShow) | |
| Can you add the guide to beating paladin/warrior/rogue? We seemed to have some problems with that. | |
| Feb 19, 2008 - 12:03 AM (HideShow) | |
| can you add a ret pally/shammy/warrior one ? | |
| Feb 19, 2008 - 6:21 AM (HideShow) | |
| sure I'll add it in a bit | |
| Feb 19, 2008 - 10:49 AM (HideShow) | |
| could you add, how to beat Paladinholy/hunterMM/warlockSL/SL? | |
| Feb 19, 2008 - 11:20 AM (HideShow) | |
| we get beat up by holy pala/retri pala/warr | |
| Feb 19, 2008 - 2:29 PM (HideShow) | |
| Best way to beat ret pally/shammy/warrior is to go for the warrior and druid waits abit in stealth and then start ccing. Its almost impossible to kill the shaman before your druid dies with stun/judgement/Ms. | |
| Feb 21, 2008 - 8:01 AM (HideShow) | |
| Actually, I disagree that isn't the best way to beat a retpally/warr/shaman setup. Because if the pally gets the druid with seal then it makes it quite literally impossible to stay away from warrior/pally. Also your feeding the warrior rage =\ This is what I have found to work Start off saping shaman, ccing warrior and focus pally. You want to burst him quickly and get him to bubble, also the druid should cyclone/root warrior when the warrior is out of los of his pally, when he pops a trinket wait for dr on cyclone and have rogue blind warrior to keep him off you. As warrior is blinded the druid can harrass the shaman while rogue/warrior finish off pally. They have no cc so the rogue/warrior will be doing alot of consistent dps. | |
| Feb 24, 2008 - 10:06 PM (HideShow) | |
| Ret Pally/Resto Shaman/Warrior and Paladin/Rogue/Warrior were added. Thanks Zotto :) | |
| Bourn | Feb 25, 2008 - 5:45 AM (HideShow) |
| Can you add a Hunter/Druid/Rogue combo please | |
| Bourn | Feb 25, 2008 - 5:47 AM (HideShow) |
| How does daggers work with that spec or is it most commonly used with fist/mace/swords.? | |
| Feb 27, 2008 - 9:17 PM (HideShow) | |
| For Hunter Druid Rogue, you should jump the Hunter with everything you've got. He's going to be the most dangerous to your group and easiest to drop. | |
| Feb 28, 2008 - 8:37 AM (HideShow) | |
| I just started playing this comp earlier today and we came across a lock/mage/disc priest team. We were close to killing the lock a couple of times but their CC rotation was so heavy that we could never finish him off. Should we have split dps? Me (rogue) on mage and war on lock to control that a little better? | |
| Feb 28, 2008 - 1:21 PM (HideShow) | |
| We're playing warrior/rogue/druid and had problems against 2xwarrior+pally last night. We tried to focus a warrior, splitting on warriors an splitting me on the pally but it didn't work. When both warriors go for our druid an he eats a mace stun he dies. We kept harmstring/crippling poison on them all the time but it did not help. guide for that comp would be interesting | |
| Damihicaput | Mar 7, 2008 - 2:11 AM (HideShow) |
| Having a lot of trouble against hunter druid priest (drain team), but most especially druid Hunter sl/sl. Focusing the warlock, we still have trouble with the hunter's damage output, especially when the lock summons a VW and survives that much longer (which happens a lot). Any advice Zotto? | |
| Mar 8, 2008 - 7:24 PM (HideShow) | |
| so in mirror matches should the warrior be protecting his druid by hammying demo shouting and disarming the warrior and rogue? or should all time be poured into seeing who can kill each others druid first? | |
| Mar 10, 2008 - 3:24 PM (HideShow) | |
| were having problems vs paladin/lock/rogue Usually we sticked to the warlock and his pet but during that time or druid gets killed :( I was thinking about spltting our dps : warrior on rogue and rogue on warlock. What do u guys think ?:( | |
| Mar 16, 2008 - 3:48 AM (HideShow) | |
| plz add mirror match | |
| Mar 16, 2008 - 10:38 AM (HideShow) | |
| yes please... need mirror strat | |
| Mar 16, 2008 - 4:05 PM (HideShow) | |
| i found going for the warrior first in a mirror match works!, make sure to have expose armor on warrior and he will drop!!! | |
| Mar 19, 2008 - 9:00 AM (HideShow) | |
| ok here goes the strat for mirror. Depends on situations but usually let the warriors 1v1 first. a.If the warrior goes around/below 40% and still in serker and druid still stealthed = rogue pop out and try nuking warrior with some CCs on druid. b.If the rogue pops out early to dps on ur warrior jump the rogue and dps him down with the warrior. c.If you are human -> sap rogue -> everybody hug the druid. any of these strats could work. It all depends on who pops out at what timing and who pops what CD at what timing. Or who crits more. @blackbelt against that team. the druid can pop out kinda late from far away. Waiting til the rogue to get on one of ur dpsers. Even so.. druid shouldn't die from a rogue alone really. Whatever let's get back to the topic. Both stick on the warlock. When u get good roots on the rogue-> cyclone paladin / when rogue ShS to u then feral charge paladin. Ok so after a couple interrupts the paladin will have to bubble or BoP warlock. Start cycloning the warlock for that duration. While u are doing this warrior and rogue is keeping rogue off u so u don't get interupted CCing. Then it's a pretty much free win. hope this helped. I'm back on a rogue so I'll keep this updated from rogue PoV also now. | |
| Mar 19, 2008 - 9:03 AM (HideShow) | |
| just fyi I didn't add zerging druid strategy becuz I think enuff druids can position themselves well enuff to not get randomly intercepted or ShS. But if you see a retarded cat running around or someone standing right next to you trying to cast something.. that druid deserves to die. | |
| Mar 21, 2008 - 10:12 PM (HideShow) | |
| such a skilless combo... | |
| Mar 24, 2008 - 7:18 PM (HideShow) | |
| yeah, I think i'm gonna try it.. need some easy way to get shoulders on my alt rogue :D | |
| Mar 24, 2008 - 11:42 PM (HideShow) | |
| anyone develop a good strat for rogue mage druid? | |
| Mar 26, 2008 - 8:15 AM (HideShow) | |
| whats a good strat versus a druid/mage/elemental shaman | |
| Mar 27, 2008 - 12:02 AM (HideShow) | |
| Is their a weap preference between the rogue and warrior ? Warrior = Mace, Rogue = swords/dagger or vice versa? | |
| Mar 27, 2008 - 10:52 AM (HideShow) | |
| I'm about to start running this combo and I just want to make sure, the rogue should not wear any PvE gear right? :D | |
| Mar 27, 2008 - 2:24 PM (HideShow) | |
| I wanted to check, your guide is based around shadowstep, and with cheat death now being broken about 50% of the time, would it be worth going ShS? Seeing as 9/10 times we'll be training clothies. Muti packs a hell of a lot more damage, in burst form. Is there much opportunity for burst with this setup? | |
| Mar 28, 2008 - 5:27 PM (HideShow) | |
| Can we see a strategy for Druid/Frost Mage/Warrior? Its a popular comp. | |
| Mar 31, 2008 - 6:39 PM (HideShow) | |
| would like some advice against pala-lock-hunter as well.seem to get a lot of dps from that combo when the lock is felguard spec. | |
| Apr 2, 2008 - 7:18 AM (HideShow) | |
| Could you post a strategy for Frost Mage + SL/SL Lock + Disc Priest? Our team just started up and we're still learning how to work together, but we got wrecked by that combo. Thanks a lot :) | |
| Apr 4, 2008 - 5:04 AM (HideShow) | |
| Having trouble with warlock / hunter / druid, not sure which to train first. Any suggestions or possible new strat? =D | |
| Apr 5, 2008 - 3:47 PM (HideShow) | |
| Can u add retpally,warrior,druid and retpally,holypally,warrior? | |
| Apr 8, 2008 - 12:30 PM (HideShow) | |
| LF guild on playing Ret. Pally, resto Druid, Warrior. I have noticed it becoming more poupular, and Im liking it myself. Could use some pro tips though... | |
| Apr 10, 2008 - 3:04 AM (HideShow) | |
| Play a build that involves skill... this is #2 easiest build to play.. and hella boring | |
| Apr 11, 2008 - 8:40 PM (HideShow) | |
| Any Videos of this combo | |
| Apr 15, 2008 - 5:43 PM (HideShow) | |
| Any hints on Pally/Lock/War? There doesn't seem to be a combo like that here. Holy pally, demo lock, common war. Seems like you need to attempt to burn the lock down. Maybe burn the pet down (twice?). But I'm not sure. They're all super-absorby... Thx! | |
| Apr 22, 2008 - 4:22 PM (HideShow) | |
| what about warr/rogue/shamman, any hints about that one? | |
| May 1, 2008 - 5:42 PM (HideShow) | |
| Ya I would like to see what you guys do against Druid/Ret Pallly/Warrior | |
| May 4, 2008 - 6:47 AM (HideShow) | |
| enhance/war/restodruid is too tough for us, can't heal through bloodlust | |
| May 5, 2008 - 9:02 AM (HideShow) | |
| also restoshaman/hunter/war... anything with bloodlust shits on us, especially with bloodlust + rapid shot... or icy veins.. should we just take a defensive approach or what? | |
| May 5, 2008 - 6:06 PM (HideShow) | |
| We are experiencing some problems with Priest - hunter - warlock. We try to CC priest and go for heavy lock nuke cuz if we manage they drop alot of CC etc, but it seems pretty dull, cuz the hunter has amazing nuke with BM specc, and druids hot are getting arcane shotted away etc:S and Felguard goes bananas with devour magic etc:S please, gief tipz :D | |
| May 6, 2008 - 6:48 AM (HideShow) | |
| you need to shout "MUNCH MUNCH" when you start combat. | |
| May 6, 2008 - 1:47 PM (HideShow) | |
| how does 34/0/27 work in this matchup? | |
| May 6, 2008 - 1:53 PM (HideShow) | |
| btw, vs war/ret/healer, I suggest ff ret. Druid can be killed instantly by war+ret but druid should able to tank the warrior for awhile. So the key is keeping the ret off druid. If pally bof himself, use intercept and ks to stop him. | |
| May 20, 2008 - 4:25 PM (HideShow) | |
| Just a quick question, if Cyclone and Blind share diminishing returns, how would you fill the 15sec gap to keep a healer further CC'd for the upcoming Blind? | |
| May 27, 2008 - 12:17 AM (HideShow) | |
| How do you guys beat double healer teams? such as... warrior / holy pally / resto shaman? we split dps on sham / pally but they outlast us.. any suggestions? | |
| May 27, 2008 - 1:56 PM (HideShow) | |
| I would like to know why a well known counter to DWR isnt up here. Please add Mage/Warrior/Druid | |
| May 27, 2008 - 1:58 PM (HideShow) | |
| "Play a build that involves skill... this is #2 easiest build to play.. and hella boring" Aeth, I heard PMR IS REALLY HARD | |
| Jun 3, 2008 - 9:29 PM (HideShow) | |
| please add resto druid/ resto shaman and warrior | |
| Jun 4, 2008 - 11:54 PM (HideShow) | |
| uhh i need help with a 3v3 combo to kill Warrior Disc Priest Resto shaman cant kill them =/ | |
| Jun 20, 2008 - 4:50 AM (HideShow) | |
| Anything for boomkin/mage/resto shammy? | |
| Jun 20, 2008 - 11:33 PM (HideShow) | |
| When playing this combo I get completely countered by double rogue anything. Is there anyway to fix that? | |
| Jun 26, 2008 - 4:34 AM (HideShow) | |
| @ Burnupunk- If the two rogues focus your druid just have your warrior tab spamstring /piercing howl the rogues and your druid should be able to get away have your rogue ride their druid assuming its double rogue druid. If you leave the two rogues alone and turn it into a race to see which druid will die first chances are you will lose, 2 rogues > Rogue + warrior when on a druid (cept for a lucky mace stun or something =]) | |
| Jun 26, 2008 - 4:51 AM (HideShow) | |
| We did the following to beat top priest/druid/hunter drain teams consistently. The hunter was Marksman, but I'm sure you could adjust for BM by playing a little more defensively and pulling out when appropriate. Killing pet was our first priority. Whatever you need to do, get it down. Then we set rogue on the hunter and warrior on the priest. Whenever the hunter changed targets, we would trade places so that whoever he was shooting was always at melee range. This generally let the hots from our druid work their magic, and the hunter couldn't really do threatening damage consistently enough to strain said druid. Eventually the priest goes oom and the druid bears the brunt of the healing, and from there you should be able to win unless you make some horrid mistake. Just don't let the hunter res and don't let the priest drink. | |
| Jun 26, 2008 - 4:55 AM (HideShow) | |
| for double rogue anything, we had some trouble too today, we found success by splitting DPS on each of the rogues so that our druid could escape. Once the rogues' cooldowns were up it was pretty much game over, so we popped our cooldowns surviving that. Obviously, don't get too far from your druid or they will switch to you and fuck you up. We only played a few games though, so take this with a grain of salt. What are people doing vs war/rpal/rsham, or war/rog/pal? that's messing us up :( | |
| Jun 27, 2008 - 1:21 PM (HideShow) | |
| Hmm, does someone tried up with Retri/resto/SS rog? :p cant find any strategies :( | |
| Jul 4, 2008 - 6:33 PM (HideShow) | |
| We had some trouble with resto shammy/holy paladin/sl/sl lock so any tips on that would be more than welcome. Thanks | |
| Jul 4, 2008 - 7:48 PM (HideShow) | |
| Can you add ShPriest/Warlock/Rogue strat? It's rare matchup, but when we meet such a team we lose=( They have a huge DPS on all of us. We start on ShP but once my warrior is fully doted I have to pop out and full hot him, having no time to hot myself - then I get rogue on my back (he just instant Shadowsteps to me) without any hot active. And then I'm usually dead after Cheapshot-Kidneyshot-Deathcoil-Silence-SpellLock combo (add Vanish-Cheapshot anywhere). If I can survive some time the figth becomes 2on2 (ShP dies), but my warr and rogue are fully doted without healing while enemy warlock and rogue are at full hp... Is it possible for us to beat them at all? | |
| Jul 7, 2008 - 11:46 PM (HideShow) | |
| lotta unanswered questions it seems, so is there any point in asking how to go up against ret/war/holy pali? we tried focusing ret pali but the holy pali has got insane healing. It seems like it should be an easy team in theory, To me it seems like dpsing the ret on the move around pillars is the way to go while me(druid) stands from afar and heals and cyclones holy pali or warrior? idk | |
| Jul 10, 2008 - 4:16 PM (HideShow) | |
| Druid/rogue/mage we faced a few times. the druid was moonkin/dreamstate no idea. but he could heal. the problem was that their rogue was human ( ofc always human rogues) and our druid got pretty much raped by stunns/counterspell and massive dps. and they got sheep/cyclone/blind on warrior-rogue hehe. All cuz of perception as usual | |
| Jul 10, 2008 - 4:19 PM (HideShow) | |
| I saw a good combo warlock/warrior/resto shaman aswell. very good dps from warrior. warlock dotted everyone of our team full. warrior kept switching between me and our warrior to hamstring us. so their warlock can get some fears of on me/our druid. when he fears me he can fear the druid automaticly. we die. Its not a great tactic combo that one. but if the warlock can get fears of cuz i get slowed/death coiled/warrior feared. its quite hard. | |
| Jul 16, 2008 - 12:24 AM (HideShow) | |
| Possible to add strats against : Disc priest, restokin, rogue? and Druid, War, Mage. My team dont have any idea what to do against those teams. Need some help. | |
| Jul 17, 2008 - 8:02 PM (HideShow) | |
| any1 offer a solid tactic for druid priest hunter? atm we swap about a lot and tend to try to keep pressure up, whilst not mortal striking the rogues target to remove poisons. | |
| Jul 23, 2008 - 5:34 PM (HideShow) | |
| Ive been lookin around and ive been wondering for the warrior what would be truly better. Mace or Swords. im maces right now and doing pretty good but ive noticed some other higher rated teams using swords. What do you think is better? | |
| Aug 6, 2008 - 4:29 PM (HideShow) | |
| kk right now i roll warrior rogue rogue just keep reading>> i want to rwd and i was just thinking: What if their HUMAN rogue saps your rogue stunlocks your druid so that their priest can come fear him and then they nuke the warrior because Blind can follow fear | |
| Aug 12, 2008 - 3:01 PM (HideShow) | |
| i think this combo is very weak against combos including shaman with mage. or even worst, shaman mage priest. they can easily spam sheep rogue or warrior and nuke the other 1 target while the priest is dispelling hots from druid. any guide might help here thanks keep up the good work | |
| Aug 14, 2008 - 11:41 AM (HideShow) | |
| In my RWD, when we come up against a RPM, we normally have the warrior opening on the mage, and me and the druid stay in stealth, if the rogue opens on the warrior, i open on the rogue, then we train the rogue, CC'ing the mage by means of cyclone, blind, and kicking/deadly throwing casts. We continue to nuke the rogue, keeping MS up at all times (it would also be ideal if you kept a mind numbing on mage as the warrior has MS, so i dont use wound poison). Heres the catch.. when we feel we have got the rogue to a low hp level (35% life or less normally), we'll heavily CC priest, and let the mage try desperately to help his rogue buddy. Bottom line is the the rogues in this RWD, you cant open first.. if you and your warrior sap a mage and try to train the priest, their rogue will just open on you and will shut down ur dps and CC ur warrior causing minimum damage to the priest ur supposed to be nuking. Step by step: 1) Sap priest, have ur warrior charge mage and continue to fight until rogue opens. (If warr and mage are 1v1'ing, ur druid can ofc, pop to heal, giving their rogue another chance to open on ur druid.) 2) If rogue doesnt open on your warrior, he will open on your druid when he comes out of stealth to heal, this is when the friendly rogue will open on the enemy rogue. 3) The warrior will switch targets to the rogue, as the druid cyclones the mage. The priest is ignored. 4) An MS is kept up on the rogue as well as a mind numbing on the mage IF POSSIBLE!! The rogue is constantly attacked by the friendly warrior and rogue. 5) When the rogue gets to about 30-40% hp, the priest is spam cycloned as well as a blind (DR or not, its still buying time, preventing heals) and the rogue/warrior finish of the rogue as he recieves 0 heals, bubbles etc. 6) During this short time of the priest being CC'd while the rogue is killed, the mage is ignored, this is only a matter of seconds while the rogue is being killed and CC is required on the priest. 7) When the rogue is dead, you kill the priest, the mage will find | |
| Aug 14, 2008 - 11:54 AM (HideShow) | |
| 7) When the rogue is dead, you kill the priest, the mage will find himself trying to desperately help his priest, but cant as he has no stuns and his movement impairing effects are useless as the priest is being stunned close to the warrior and rogue as well as having hamstring/cripp poison on. After priest is down, kill the lonely mage. Hope this helps, just a short guide. Theory craft is not PvP, so this is not a guaranteed win but best of luck using it | |
| Aug 15, 2008 - 2:43 PM (HideShow) | |
| What a shitty guide, he only put strats up for the teams RWD counters. Fail. | |
| Aug 17, 2008 - 5:10 PM (HideShow) | |
| Its not a guide, somebody above me wanted to know a way to beat an RPM. So sorry for spending the time to help that person. Instead you reply with "shitty guide" and coming up with nothing better, useful or interesting in anyway. Fail. | |
| Aug 18, 2008 - 7:53 AM (HideShow) | |
| Blade... I think shaithis comments were directed at Zotto, the guy who wrote the guide. I have to disagree with Shaithis, he's taken time to write the guide and I find it useful. It's a "guide", not a complete strategy on how to get gladiator with this comp. | |
| Sep 4, 2008 - 8:42 PM (HideShow) | |
| How would you beat an Elemental Shaman/resto hybrid, BM hunter in mostly pve gear, and shadow priest comp? They basically just set up, BW and Bloodlust and drop me or the druid before we can do anything. | |
| Oct 11, 2008 - 1:42 AM (HideShow) | |
| how do i beat druid rogue rogue | |
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