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Druid/Mage/Warrior

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Frst
Tichondrius
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Druid/Mage/Warrior

VS.

Mage/Priest/Rogue

PMR has by far, become the most popular comp that people are trying out in season 3. PMR is the comp you can bet on seeing most often leveling your team up past 2K. So, what do we do against this comp? I go extremely defensive because most of the time they are going to try to gib me right off the bat.

When they train the mage: This will happen most commonly until the team gets a little experience playing against WMD. The mage needs to go extremely defensive and try to avoid being opened on by the rogue as soon as possible to force the rogue to help his players while the warrior beats on them. Eventually the rogue will get on you, and your goal as a mage is to use your first couple CS's on frostbolts. The mage will also want to be refreshing R1 frost armor (costs about 50 mana I think) to keep the slow and frostbite proc up through dispels. The warrior is going to be sticking the rogue to keep up hamstring to try and get him off of the mage. Your druid can alternate cyclones between the priest and the mage. If you ever get some distance on the rogue, have your warrior kill the pet, you can also throw a fireblast on it.

When they train the warrior: If they decide to go for a gib on the warrior, have the warrior play almost purely defensive. Sit in D stance and just play LOS if you can. The mage, if left untouched, should be able to prevent almost any burst from hitting your warrior. The mage needs to sheep rotate between the rogue and the mage, use the CS on frostbolts and scorch down the pet whenever the mage summons it. Druids can also help out with cyclones. Try to stop all incoming damage.

When they train the druid: This is where it gets tricky, if a team decides to make a quick swap to your druid you could be in trouble. A mage and a rogue can do serious damage if your druid gets caught in humanoid form in a kidney. In this situation the mage and the warrior need to go crazy on preventing damage. Your druid needs to anticipate the kidneys and go bear to prevent taking too much damage. The entire game your druid needs to keep a good position to deter this from ever happening, but sometimes it will, and these are the times that we come closest to losing.

The goal against PMR is to outlast the rogues CD's. As soon as he goes through those trying to get a kill, you immediately turn the table, and start channeling damage to his face. If you make the swap random you can catch then off guard and nail a CC rotation on the priest and they virtually have nothing.

Comments:

InnateFeb 21, 2008 - 4:40 AM (HideShow)
I'm not sure how old this is but I am curious about a few things. First off any of the top pmrs we have faced have trained the mage without fail. I do not see CSing frostbolts as an effective use of CS. While slowing the dps some is nice it is simply not as useful to me as coordinating CC and lockouts on the arcane line to keep your warrior free as much as possible.

As for a focus target as I said this might be old, but with every rogue being shadowstep now focusing him tends to be pointless. You really cannot disrupt him enough when your warrior is not CCed to do much, and killing him is nearly impossible with cheat death, double evasions and cloak. While trying to kite with hamstring can work, abolish is generally getting spam dispelled along with hots so cripling is up a good portion of the fight, as well as constant nova/frostbites/frostbolts to snare the mage and keep him in range (and stuns of course, can only blink so much).

FrstMar 14, 2008 - 5:20 AM (HideShow)
This guide was written some time ago, when HARP was the popular rogue build. Even so, with my partners we still train the rogue. I use my CS on a frostbolt if I'm at risk of being gibbed (frozen, low hp etc) but otherwise I try to save it for a sheep to keep my warrior out of CC. Even with ShS PMR still has a ton of burst and this comp has actually become very challenging to play. We played some of the top PMR's this past week and every game comes down to whether or not we are able to get off an effective cyclone/sheep CC rotation.

It's also very important to keep pressure on the rogue while kiting, whether it be fireblast, icelance, cone it's key to keep damage on the rogue to assist your warrior.
SuegraJun 10, 2008 - 6:44 PM (HideShow)
really, wtf can we do vs a really good rmp?
TherĂ Jun 10, 2008 - 7:57 PM (HideShow)
we was at 1980 20 rating form my bloody shoulders tonight we got farmed by a 2.1k RMP we trained the rogue i was ccing the priest and csing the mages sheeps to keep my war free as possible it just wouldnt work we didnt win one so we tryed going for mage but problem is with no mass dispel i die alot faster than he does, waht to do ><
SharorSep 2, 2008 - 4:22 AM (HideShow)
It's a really simple fight, mage and druid babysits for each other and you keep polymorphs locked out as much as possible. Whenever rogue cooldowns drop you can go aggresive.

Execution of a simple fight can be hard, though.

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