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- Suggest Strategies
Author
  | Bluetorch Darksorrow EU-Rampage |
 | Shaman/Warlock | VS. |   | Death Knight/Holy Paladin |
This is what you can call free rating when played right. Against this team you want to focus the Paladin, both you and your Shaman. Use Fears against Deathknight, and fully dot him when ever possible. When fearing the Deathknight cast Fear + UA, if your lucky the Paladin might dispel the UA. Keep the DK in Fear/Hex all time, focus damage on Paladin with your Shaman.
When Gargoyle spawns this is the time the DK might try to nuke down you or your healer, use your Felhunter to silence the Gargoyle and but Corruption, Agony and siphon on him and Focus back to Paladin.
Most often this fight will end paladin running out of Mana. Easy fight if you CC the Deathknight well. Important to have damage on both targets, make the Paladin use his Mana.
When Gargoyle spawns this is the time the DK might try to nuke down you or your healer, use your Felhunter to silence the Gargoyle and but Corruption, Agony and siphon on him and Focus back to Paladin.
Most often this fight will end paladin running out of Mana. Easy fight if you CC the Deathknight well. Important to have damage on both targets, make the Paladin use his Mana.
Comments: | |
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  Riched | Feb 3, 2009 - 1:48 PM (HideShow) |
| This strategy as most others including a Death Knight is CCing the DK and focusing the "x". I agree that this strategy should work well as taking down a Death knight just seems like a waste of time. | |
 Vondz | Feb 8, 2009 - 9:16 PM (HideShow) |
| your facing some bad DK/pallys if you think this team is free points | |
 Dreamshock | Feb 16, 2009 - 11:42 AM (HideShow) |
| Go for Frost Resist Totem and Disease Cleanse. Hex DK and cut paladin heals. Keep warlock's pet alive. | |
 Blaxranger | Feb 23, 2009 - 4:03 PM (HideShow) |
| Frost totem + Disease cleansing helps negate most of the new FOTM spec'd DK's (Shadow/frost). If your Warlock can keep the DK at bay when he pops all his little pets out, then this fight is really really easy. | |
| Thii | Feb 27, 2009 - 6:10 PM (HideShow) |
| These days the fight gets a bit harder if the pally is 37/0/34 shock spec. You can lock out the pally when all he does is pillar hump and shock to heal. Dks on my bg usually have like 25k hp and their whole arsenal of skills so its hard to get him off of your back even if u fear. Maybe its just me, but these shock/dk teams gives me problems. | |
| Thii | Feb 27, 2009 - 6:10 PM (HideShow) |
| i meant cant* for my post above | |
| Failar | Mar 2, 2009 - 11:37 AM (HideShow) |
| Unless the DK is extremely well geared, Betrayer etc., this fight should be easy. When the initial nuke starts, and the DK goes into Lichborne (Immune to Hex and Fear), I usually go for Death Coiling or Teleporting. After that just make sure you fear him off, and fakecast those Mind Freezes. Occasionally a good DK will spit out cooldowns to try and instagib you or the shaman, now just fear him, deathcoil or teleport. Hex is awesome. An important note is to get UA on the DK before fearing. Dispelled fears will drive you nuts. The main target should be the paladin, just make sure you don't leave the DK on your healer, as DKs tend to "pewpew omg lol one-shot". Fully dotting the DK, then fearing him and then running to dot the paladin is usually my way of doing it. Then when the Paladin is fully dotted, get a good fear on him and drain him down. Shaman Lava Burst + Shock helps a lot. | |
| Failar | Mar 2, 2009 - 11:38 AM (HideShow) |
| - Oh and BTW, get those instant Howl of Terrors positioned well! | |
 Whitelotis | Mar 3, 2009 - 1:11 AM (HideShow) |
| My combo has never had any issues killing shamman lock at all. I'm running 37/0/34 and playing with a blood dk. The games quite literally end in a matter of 3-5seconds after my dk has full runic power. I take out grounding with a shock and repentance the shamman, if he trinkets instant hammer and silence when hammer is done, then my DK pops his silence and oen of the 2 are dead depending who we burst. I've found it no harder to kill the shammans or the warlock and we have never lost to this team. | |
 Illiterate | Mar 3, 2009 - 3:35 AM (HideShow) |
| lol then u have faced pretty bad lock shamans. | |
| Tabula | Mar 7, 2009 - 3:22 PM (HideShow) |
| As a DK/Paladin team, I hate this team with a sheer passion.. =( | |
| Bubbleandhs | Mar 9, 2009 - 6:14 AM (HideShow) |
| this depends if the warlock/shaman is okay/good or very good. If the paladin and deathknight turtle dps drain shaman all the time. while the paladin is very good at los´ing the warlock and hammers right on howl of terror, and then comes with a good later offensive hammer on shaman, it can be hard for the lock/healer team. but again, a medium dk/pala will always get cleaved by this comp. it requires alot of position skills from the paladin. | |
 Sakujin | Mar 9, 2009 - 7:42 AM (HideShow) |
| This is a hard setup depending how well the hpala kites the warlock, especially 15% movement speed vs chasing lock with 22sta on boots 0% run speed is hardly difficult to run from someone. | |
 Shalo | Mar 11, 2009 - 7:43 PM (HideShow) |
| So i have been facing dk pally over and over again probly like 10times in a row today. What i have notice is shaman get there mana killed in this fight i try fearing the dk off my shaman but after my fears become immune to him my shaman gets stunned sd and dies.... i would luv to hear a strat against this combo cause right now i feel that this team if they are good players! will own shaman lock everytime... | |
| Bubbleandhs | Mar 15, 2009 - 11:14 AM (HideShow) |
| I like how you call this team free rating when your team consistently loses to DK/Pala teams with over 50 in IQ. a good pala/dk, the pala will only get 1-2 dangerous moments, while ure getting pressured 24/7 with a constant LOSing Paladin. | |
 Alerien | Mar 17, 2009 - 3:33 PM (HideShow) |
| /facepalm | |
| Frigo | Mar 18, 2009 - 4:47 PM (HideShow) |
| If you win against a pala/dk as lock/shaman, it was jsut because the pala dk has downs. sorry to say, but it's not up to the lock/shaman who wins. if the pala/dk plays not terrible, sorry for the trouble but you'll lose. | |
 Skoots | Mar 24, 2009 - 2:57 PM (HideShow) |
| Lock pally can be tough when the pally plays defensive. But you just have to place your port in good places and use the dk to pull the pally out into the open. If the dk is anywhere near decent (which they don't have to be to get high rated) he will be on your lock like glue. they key is to make the pally get into a bad spot by pulling the dk across the map from where he is pillar humping. Then use your port to fear the pally and start a dps rotation. getting summons off for new pets isn't hard at all so don't waste your instant summon unless your in serious trouble. use your felhunter for the silence for the easy pally take down. OH and the shaman needs to stay out of range of pestilence when he can because the swap can be tricky if your already fully diseased. | |
| Failar | Mar 25, 2009 - 1:23 PM (HideShow) |
| After fighting DK / Hpala around 2.4k rating 4 times in a row (1-3), I changed my mind. This is by far the hardest combo of all. If you are extremely lucky, the DK will run away from the paladin, and die due to dots and no Holy Shock. Or if you are extremely lucky one of them will DC. Otherwise you'll lose, guaranteed. Unless ofc the Paladin doesn't know how to LoSight spam the warlock, and use nothing but Holy Shock, Repentence and Hammer of Justice. | |
| Failar | Mar 25, 2009 - 1:28 PM (HideShow) |
| ... Met it again, this time the Paladin was not even remotely good, but the DK managed to pull off roughly 11k dps. (Both me and Shaman around 900 resillience). | |
| Lotsofear | Mar 27, 2009 - 8:40 PM (HideShow) |
| In Dalaran sewers the chance to loose goes up by about 40%( just a guess) Its the worst map. Too much LoS. Anyone got any tips on that map? | |
| Reziel | Apr 2, 2009 - 10:27 PM (HideShow) |
| This comp is destroying me and my shaman now at higher ratings. Often the fight ends with the paladin not even close to being OOM. I throw DOTs everywhere, I drain the paladin and try to line up CC chains and kill him, but the deathknight threatens to kill my shaman whenever I try, and also interrupts me. On average, healer + DK teams end the match with a win and between 2x-4x my own damage dealt, even though my DOTs are on almost everything 24/7. I need help dealing with this. | |
 Stormcow | Apr 3, 2009 - 12:54 AM (HideShow) |
| When u can kill a full resilience shammy in 4-5 sec flat, this team stops troubling you. | |
| Pookette | Apr 4, 2009 - 5:45 AM (HideShow) |
| Free rating except for the actual good ones which there are only like 2-3 of those per battlegroup. The really good ones turn into 30 minute matches of neither team gibbing anything but the paladin outlasting the lock/shaman and finally getting lock down w/o being able to sustain new pets/etc. | |
| Pookette | Apr 4, 2009 - 5:55 AM (HideShow) |
| @ lots of fear. I haven't tried this yet (won't either cuz I'm stopping at my rating) but i theorycrafted a viable strat. Put your pet on stay on a corner in the very bottom so it can't get pestilenced when DKs are on you (they should be on you if they aren't brain dead) that way the pally can't gib it and you won't get LoS on healthfunnel. if pally stas up top your pet can easily devour repents/HoJs off your shaman etc. and fears on DK are actually meaning full cuz you can' load him up w/ full dots/haunt w/o fear having retarded RNG pathing. your port should also be up top for those oh shit moments. | |
| Sithir | Apr 9, 2009 - 2:46 PM (HideShow) |
| Every time I go for the gib on the pally in Dalaran sewers, and fear or deathcoil paths them to safety, I die a little inside. Pretty much on life support right now | |
| Flesseck | Apr 10, 2009 - 1:00 AM (HideShow) |
| I remember farming this comp a few months ago. Now, they're harder and more annoying than ever. | |
| Faetalicious | Apr 10, 2009 - 12:45 PM (HideShow) |
| They are getting harder because of shadow frost and More betrayers and they are getting smart and putting on the pve gear | |
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