| Hellenkeller Kel'Thuzad US-Nightfall |
Shaman/Warrior | VS. | Paladin/Warlock |
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| Mar 26, 2008 - 3:44 AM (HideShow) | |
| Can be tough when they outgear your shaman a bit, and the bloodlust gets dispelled. Hit the lock first if you plan to kill the pet, if he keeps it near him you can slowly drop it with WWs then finish it off when low, if he sends it after your shaman, have the shammie get it alone with LoS and then go help him kill it quick, smart pally will keep the pet up for awhile if you just focus it. May have to kill pet twice if he summons felhunter a second time, if its VW let it hit your shaman though, VW can't spell lock or anything and will feed your shamans watersheild for mana. | |
| Apr 22, 2008 - 9:14 PM (HideShow) | |
| Hate playin vs this set up. It's not hard but full t6 pala just heals forever even though he knows he's gonna lose>< | |
| Apr 25, 2008 - 11:23 PM (HideShow) | |
| haha so true | |
| Apr 30, 2008 - 1:54 PM (HideShow) | |
| this combo is hard as hell... i go oom tryin to heal myself and war.. i get feared THEN the totem gets hit.. pally gets HL shocked then goes right back to another HL when he can.... and then i go oom as hell | |
| Apr 30, 2008 - 1:56 PM (HideShow) | |
| oo and the lock doesnt send pet after me till i try and go drink for the short time i can bC dots takes so much skill to throw on the warrior | |
| May 11, 2008 - 9:33 PM (HideShow) | |
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| May 11, 2008 - 9:36 PM (HideShow) | |
| Curse of tongues on shaman, pet on shaman to eat ns. pally stuns shaman while can both players are doted up big time. shaman tries to shock a few fears but soon has to heal or else he loses the warrior. then the shaman gets chain feared and the warrior dies. I don't see how this is an easy combo if the warlock is smart. Yes its easy if there both terrible but what isn't? | |
| May 29, 2008 - 2:31 PM (HideShow) | |
| @ Dallan You can eat CoTongues as well as a hammer of justice and still be okay. You shouldn't be eating fears, period. You need a better warrior if he's not disruppting the vast majority of the locks shadow timed casts. No life drain, no fear. And if he's hell bent on fearing you, the shaman should be LoSing and ready with a tremor totem if you screw up and need some help. Your warrior should be fine - taking barely more than dot damage and pet damage. Compared to other combinations you could be facing (like many 2 dps teams), this one is rather easy, imo. | |
| Jun 6, 2008 - 1:59 PM (HideShow) | |
| @ Apocalyptica I can't believe you suggested a warlock using fel dom to summon a felhunter. With windfury/purge you can kill a felhunter sooo easily. The only time the fight is remotely difficult is if he summons a void behind a pillar and the pally comes to HoJ you to force a dismount. How are they dispelling your heroism/bloodlust? If you use it when a felhunter is up you are playing the combo bad. Stack 5 sunders on the lock. Chain interrupt pally and force him to bop lock. Once he is bopped have warrior intercept pally/stop casts while the shaman purges bop off. Rinse and repeat sunders and then pop heroism --- win. | |
| Jun 15, 2008 - 4:21 AM (HideShow) | |
| How I found to beat this combo is leave the pet alone.If the lok puts the pet on the shaman thats a plus for the simple fact hes regen the sham mana or helping heal.When the lok is oom even though he cant go oom but once he has to start life tapping when this happens bloodlust but make sure there are 5 sunders on the lok before lusting.At this time the lok will not be able to life tap anymore since hes being burted.The sham needs to be reay for the purge on the BoP.You should have the lok down before the bllodlust is over even with the pet up.If your wondering well how do i avoid the fears on the lok at this point well the lok wont have any mana to cast fear, well he wont really be able to since he has no mana.Also during the lust phase have your sham interupt the pallies heals.Your sham doesnt need to interupt any heals prior to lusting to save on mana.The sham only job during this match is to heal.Another thing i like to do is when you are bloodlusting taunt the pet onto u and kill it with whirlwind and cleave since the pet should be half dead or close to start with since your sham should be meleeing it in between healing.Make sure the sham wastes no mana fighting the pet.This match should only last a few minutes and an easy win. | |
| Jul 4, 2008 - 3:49 AM (HideShow) | |
| I have trouble with this comp if the paladin is in full raid gear, and the lock does not auto send pet on the shaman, instead only using him to keep shaman in combat when needed. Pretty much a full tier 6 healdin outlasts my shaman and makes it very hard to get a kill. Any tips? | |
| Aug 12, 2008 - 6:52 AM (HideShow) | |
| Maxiimus, Apocalyptica is my n00b partner for 2v2, and what we do is: Get on the Warlock, ES ALL Paladin heals (Unless you'r healing) - Don't make the Warrior do any - And when the pet is at 50% due to Soul Link, intercept/WF/MS GG pet's dead. If they summon another Felhound well, then.. GG. Do the exact same thing and bam you've got yourself some free points. If they get the Shaman or the Warrior at 40% or lower, they could resummon another Felhound and just take the auto-Spell Lock off, click or Macro the Heals and get a decent Deathcoil off and BAM! You've lost! Never let the Warrior get below 60%. EVER. Behind Rogue/Rogue, this is the #1 easiest makeup for a Shaman/Warrior team. Hands down. For Dallan, seperate the Pet from the Warlock, and have your Warrior lock that Warlock down, so that 95% of his time is spent keeping himself from getting bursted by that Warrior, in BEM jump on the Bridge whilst the Warlock/Warrior fight on the ramp (Most common)on their way to you. I've recently found out you, as a Shaman, can juke Spell Locks. Try and do that, and you shouldn't do too bad. Remember, if the Warrior or Shaman is 40% or lower, stop pummeling Immolates/Searing Pains, and focus 100% on stopping fears. | |
| Sep 8, 2008 - 4:55 AM (HideShow) | |
| SO it is more important to stop damage spells from the lock in the begining, until someone gets low then start pummeling fears? Or is there ever a time in there u stop fears. I worry this becasue fears seems to be what eats my shammy. THey usually run to his totems knock them out then DC him and fear right after, then could also chain that up with a spell lock/ long pally stun. | |
| Sep 10, 2008 - 4:25 AM (HideShow) | |
| Oluixeus, if you're on the Felhunter the paladin must spam heals on it meaning he cannot afford to Hammer of Justice. If this is the case your shaman should be at max range, hide his totems behind a pillar. If Warlock is spamming totem bash macro good, chances are Felhunter will go LOS from the paladin and go low enough for you to finish it off. Your shaman can perfectly avoid fears by LOS and Grounding, and if far away enough from the warlock and you, grounding can eat Spell Lock easily too as long as he keeps track of Devour Magic CD. Keep communicating with your shaman for Pummels, if he has cot on him and absoltuely must get a heal off and will be in plain LOS then yes you should pummel all fears! And hopefully your shaman can try and ground Hamme of Justice! | |
| Sep 18, 2008 - 8:27 PM (HideShow) | |
| @ dallan. If you arent smart enough to have the pet eat a watershield before you NS you fail as a shaman and should reroll | |
| Nurfd | Sep 23, 2008 - 5:45 PM (HideShow) |
| A very good way to make the pally pop his bubble is to get him close to the pet and use sweeping strikes while attacking the pet, it usually drops their hp pretty quickly. | |
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