Strategies
Shaman/Warrior
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  | Hellenkeller Kel'Thuzad US-Nightfall |   | Limewire Cho'gall US-Rampage | | Wid Hyjal US-Whirlwind |
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General Information
Warrior Shaman is not a popular combo like Warrior+Druid because it suffers from a few significant holes that the Warrior+Druid combo avoids. Namely, the Shaman can only break a CC once with a PvP trinket, making him extremely susceptible to double DPS teams and CC heavy teams. However, the Shaman can really mess with enemy casters, due to Grounding and Tremor Totem, and Windfury amps up his Warrior's damage, making quick kills a real possibility.
You will play long games as Warrior+Sham, so the Warrior needs to be good at keeping pets and other players off his Shaman for drinking. The Shaman needs to be skilled with all of his totems, when to pump his Warrior's dps, when to break CC or interrupt casts, and when to regen Mana. The game is all about the effective use of totems. You should Bloodlust when the Warrior has 5 sunders up, preferably when CC Diminishing Returns for the opponent are on cooldown.
Warrior+Shaman win games by messing up the opponent, plain and simple. As a general rule, you should beat other healer combos because you can do big burst when the enemy healer is low on Mana and options. Double DPS can be challenging, if you win 50% of your games against double DPS thats about the best you should hope.
You will play long games as Warrior+Sham, so the Warrior needs to be good at keeping pets and other players off his Shaman for drinking. The Shaman needs to be skilled with all of his totems, when to pump his Warrior's dps, when to break CC or interrupt casts, and when to regen Mana. The game is all about the effective use of totems. You should Bloodlust when the Warrior has 5 sunders up, preferably when CC Diminishing Returns for the opponent are on cooldown.
Warrior+Shaman win games by messing up the opponent, plain and simple. As a general rule, you should beat other healer combos because you can do big burst when the enemy healer is low on Mana and options. Double DPS can be challenging, if you win 50% of your games against double DPS thats about the best you should hope.
Tips
- Shamans can Grounding Totem a hunters Freezing Trap. When you see your Warrior get Scatter Shotted, drop Grounding Totem ASAP.
- You cannot get Sapped in Ghost Wolf. If you don't see anyone on the opposing side, go Ghost Wolf ASAP
- Have your Shaman dropping Rank 1 Windfury Totem (Dropping max rank Windfury Totem drains a lot of Mana just for an extra 30 damage. And good teams will usually kill it anyways)
- Blood Fury trick (Only usable with Orcs) If your Shaman has 4-5 stacks of Wounding Poison use Blood Fury and that will over write the Wounding Poison. So, you basically lose all the Wounding Poison Stacks. What this is useful for: if a Rogue is on you and he has 4-5 stacks of Wounding Poison up, use Blood Fury, cure the Crippling Poison, drop an Earth Bind, go Ghost wolf and kite. And when the 15 seconds of Bloodfury is over you can NS+HW yourself for 100% benefit of healing.
- Use Rank 1 Earth Shock. There's no reason to use max rank because it uses way too much mana, unless you're going to kill someone is the only time to use it.
- Use Rank 1 Frost Shock. If you're going to kite someone don't use max rank there is no point unless you're going to kill them.
- Using Water Breathing for buff protection it can help before a game especially with the 30% resist buff.
Useful Addons
- Focusframe - It will show another portrait and casting bar of your focus target so you can interrupt the casts,etc.
- Afflicted - It will show the CDS for interrupts like Pummel,CS,Kick,etc. It will also show when someone gains Freedom,BoP,etc. So, you know when to Purge it.
- Jims Cooldown Pulse 2 - It will tell you when your cds are up like Earth Shock,Grounding Totem,etc.
- Spellalert - It will show what all the other enemies are casting.
Matchups
Comments: | |
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  Roughntasty | Feb 11, 2008 - 7:33 PM (HideShow) |
| HAI SECKS | |
  Holics | Feb 14, 2008 - 6:46 AM (HideShow) |
| This guide really sucks, I'm sorry but the only thing you are giving is commen knowledge, give some details! | |
  Arghost | Feb 14, 2008 - 8:52 AM (HideShow) |
| I really have to agree with Holics on this one. I am gearing up a Shaman alt to play with a Warrior, Warlock, and possibly Hunter and besides a couple basics I hadn't thought of this guide is all common sence/knowledge. Please, please add more details to all these Warrior/Warlock + healer fights if you have them and also some strats for 2 DPS matchups as well. | |
| Odarion | Feb 15, 2008 - 7:38 AM (HideShow) |
| I've played every spec of the shaman with many different and even odd combinations. I have done a warlock/shaman combination as well as a warrior/shaman combination. It's really hard to give you just a straight up guide to tell you how to win. As they say it's going to be rough against a double DPS team, however many healer/dps combinations in 2's have the a similar issue. Not being able to out heal the dps that is being put out. I would say the best way for you to win is obviously keeping most players off of the shaman, however hunters pets can be nice to have hitting you for little and regenning mana using water shield. You're also going to need to learn how to kite. As a shaman it isn't very easy, but I would strongly suggest binding cure poison to a hot key. I have found the best way to kite a rogue is by dropping earth bind totem and just spamming the cure poison button. However while kiting there is no healing going on, so you're going to need to learn to know when to stop and heal and start kiting. It will be different in every Arena due to the skill of the players you're fighting. I'm sorry if this doesn't help very much, but if you ask more pin-pointed questions it would help with a more accurate response. | |
| Biospawn | Feb 18, 2008 - 12:17 PM (HideShow) |
| are there any Hellenkeller 2v2 videos? my buddy said there were and that they're very good. anyone got a link? | |
 Daint | Feb 28, 2008 - 8:07 AM (HideShow) |
| Any chance you could fill out some more matchups :)? Me and my shammy is having a very very hard time vs. rogue/druid teams. Druid is staying defensive, keeping me CC'ed for the first 30 secs or so, and when i go for rogue he pops evasion. After that combo my shaman's usually dead with stun from druid and macestun from rogue. | |
| Hellenkeller | Mar 3, 2008 - 5:45 PM (HideShow) |
| I've never made a video. Ummm, I can try to flesh things out I guess, but like alot of people have said, winning in arena is mostly common sense. Its not like I press different buttons or use different abilities than what you guys have, its just doing the basic stuff at the right time that separates wins from losses. | |
| Hellenkeller | Mar 3, 2008 - 5:54 PM (HideShow) |
| hunt druid vs warr sham the cc is insane but they never really threatened to run my shaman oom, combination of pve gear and the water shield. The games would last forever if I haphazardly usedmy cooldowns, with neither side able to make much headway. I wait for all my stuff to be up. This is about 5 minutes into the fight or so. I wait for the druid to have cyclone on me on diminishing returns. Once that happens, I pop my zerker call, death wish, and trinket the druids next roots. my shaman has max rank WF totem down and runs and eats the icetrap while i kill the hunter. ANd then you hope to get lucky with your dps and you should have them, or at least pressure the druid enormosly. If the pet stays on my shaman, shammy gets lots of mana from watershield. If he goes off, my shaman drinks. Even though the druid has the CC control, you have just as much control over the flow of the match through your dps abilities which provide much more burst than a hunter Resto druid + rogue Demo shout and hamstring on the rogue is your friend. Its hard to burst down a rogue due to dodges and cheat death so mitigate their damage as much as possible on your shaman. If they go toe to toe with the warrior, smack that bitch and enjoy the free rage and damage. Your shaman should not die to healer x in the first 30 seconds of a fight, ever. Use your PvP trinket to intercept the rogue, you can hamstring him when he is stunned so your sham can kite. If the dru is in bear form, he isn't healing so open up on the rogue. Evasion isn't that long especially if you use intercept whenever its up. Keep the dps steady so the druid has to focus on healing instead of pure CC and you will be ok. A shaman can tank a rogue FOREVER with earth shield on, you should win this one. | |
| Golgotha | Mar 4, 2008 - 12:53 PM (HideShow) |
| Against hunt/druid, you don't even need to have your shaman eat the ice trap. Just have him drop grounding when scatter goes up. Grounding ice trap + water shield = free win. | |
| Roat | Mar 8, 2008 - 8:34 AM (HideShow) |
| I noticed on the armory that you went 35/23/3 How do you think this spec compares to 33/28 for this particular combo? | |
 Artofshaman | Mar 10, 2008 - 12:10 AM (HideShow) |
| He tried it this past weekend and wasn't super impressed with it, he felt he wasn't doing enough DPS for the way we have geared and gemmed our setup. It may be better on a maces warrior where DPS is kind of secondary to control on the target and mitigating CC. I think he will go back to 33/28 next week or any time we push. It also may have been he wasnt used to the spec but he can comment further. | |
| Gizmoes | Mar 10, 2008 - 1:04 AM (HideShow) |
| With Warrior/Shaman combo, do you think that Bloodlust Brooch or Battlemaster's Determination is better? | |
| Artofshaman | Mar 10, 2008 - 7:04 PM (HideShow) |
| *not the final word in this argument* Warrior/Shaman is great against healer + 1 combos and we play to that strength. We aren't in terrible danger of being burned down against those combos so the brooch is the trinket of choice. It helps in breaking down defensive druids or hunter/healer combos in combination with lust + death wish and can make the difference in a kill or not. We play on the strength of the combo and choose brooch in that light. If we get long Qs (bad teams) we use battlemasters because it's more likely they are 2xDPS teams in our experience. Warr/sham isn't good vs 2 DPS generally and a win is determined by the double DPS making a mistake and the battlemasters trinket wont change that. So, we play on the strength of the combo and use brooch to help burst down a target. | |
 Falnor | Mar 13, 2008 - 9:31 PM (HideShow) |
| Im not an expert at going up against double dps teams, but i do got something to say about sp+rouge. I found more or less a pattern to the SP/rouge combo. Warrior is main target in most cases, and shaman will get heavy cc. I will start off trying to find the rogue, if i cannot find him my shaman will earth shock priest to be put in combat. Both dps will open up on me( in most cases). Common sense is slap on shield and one hand. I will be topped off at all times while i mitigate damage from rogue, and priest (disarm, demo shout, thunder clap, spell reflect, block, and fear). while my shaman heals, he will get silenced by the priest. when he comes out he will try to lesser heal, he will then get feared (with tremor totem it wount last to long, i should be floating at around 60%) after he is out of fear he will try to get some heals off before he gets blinded. when he is blinded he is to trinket and instant healing wave me and top me off with somemore heals. after that pattern of cc is down i should already have priest down to 50%. He pops heroism tops me off and i switch back to zerk and dps the priest down. And that should be game. I just thought i throw that in there. that is what i usually do when we are matched with SP/rouge. | |
| Entrepid | Mar 19, 2008 - 1:03 AM (HideShow) |
| Im sorry but Hellen your strats are all Horrible, you have no detail or reasoning behind this, and half of them don't work what so ever | |
 Burr | Mar 19, 2008 - 8:17 PM (HideShow) |
| So if his stats are horrible and his rating is 2300... tell me what that mean to you? | |
| Mithgar | Mar 21, 2008 - 3:44 PM (HideShow) |
| Hellen is just trying to explain what he does, in the best way that he can. He's obviously a great player. Maybe just not the best "teacher". I understand everything he says. But he's the epitomy of what being a great "natural" player is all about. He doesn't exactly know why he's good, he just does "his thing" and wins games. He's like you and me, he puts his pants on one leg at a time. The only difference is, that after he puts his pants on, he hits 2300. <3 Hellen | |
| Karagan | Mar 22, 2008 - 5:54 PM (HideShow) |
| I agree w/ Mithgar. He knows wut hes doing just has a hard time explaining it. I would like to add a few strats against a war/druid combo. The shaman needs to be rlly offensive against the druid. ground his cyclone bla bla bla bla, BUT u need to rank 1 frost shock the druid when he runs away from ur war. specially when u bl u both need to stay on the druid. Most of the time we can kill the druid every time we bl. rarely do they get away. I also like to ask for some advice on a combo that we fought for the firs time the other night. Pally/rogue. it seems like a fairly easy combo to defeat since its like a war/pally combo. But the rogue can do more dps, more stuns, and plainly keep me away from the pally from es. we faced this combo 7 times and lost. the pally is also able to bubble and then we bl but we cant kill him in 2min b4 his bop is up. If i try to cleanse poison i waste too much mana and i go oom too quickly. Any hints? | |
| Floes | Mar 28, 2008 - 7:08 AM (HideShow) |
| When are other strats against other comps coming out, I have faced many comps that are not listed and at times am completely lost. | |
 Jrmilitia | Mar 29, 2008 - 1:32 AM (HideShow) |
| please respond w/ a strat vs priest/hunter and pally/rogue my team tanked 70 pts to these groups because of the immense cc abilites they are able to do EXP: i get pally low when his shield is down,, rogue runs over blinds me and pally gets away wit BOF priest gets low,,, hunter runs over and scatter shot/traps while the priest runs behind a pillar a greater heals w/ a bubble on. | |
 Carrane | Mar 29, 2008 - 6:29 AM (HideShow) |
| Why would you be on the pally in pally/rogue? Stick the rogue spam purge = win | |
| Fuuga | Mar 29, 2008 - 5:15 PM (HideShow) |
| Shaman should eat the hunter traps, or ground them depending on cooldowns and distance. (I'd personally just eat them if he can, since he'll probably have at least one stack of scorpid poison on him which will break the trap right away.) For pally rogue I'd say stay on rogue and make sure wf+poison cleansing stay up. If he tries to go for the shaman you are going to just run him out of cooldowns, especially with instant gw and possibly toughness. | |
| Tungsten | Apr 1, 2008 - 12:41 AM (HideShow) |
| can you post strats against rogue teams plz? mainly rogue/lock and rogue/priest | |
| Sector | Apr 1, 2008 - 10:22 AM (HideShow) |
| Purge druid hots or not vs War/druid rogue/druid? | |
| Ddeathjr | Apr 2, 2008 - 1:56 AM (HideShow) |
| i cant say much about this, but my warrior always stays on the priest with windfury, and i heal through the rogue, its a 1 on 1 witrh eachother most of the fight, try to kite the rogue and stay LoS of the priest, throw down poison cleansing and earthbind ALWAYS, and if he destroys them as soon as theyre down, then throw down a stoneclaw and stun him, so you can GW and run (since 2.4 if you dont have instant ghost wolf then you should change you spec up a little bit, i prefer 0/20/41 but thats just me) i know this isnt an amazingly descripitve guide but its just a couple of tips. oh, and if you see a disc priest without a lock then go ghostwolf if you dont start in it already | |
  Askaer | Apr 2, 2008 - 6:26 PM (HideShow) |
| why does this useless guide only have info on warrior warlock comobs, that not the freaking problem | |
| Inimitable | Apr 2, 2008 - 9:08 PM (HideShow) |
| I've faced hunter/druid combos quite a bit and have come close to losing several times. The strategy I've adopted in this case was to stay on the hunter initially, wait for him to go oom, possibly switch to the pet if the druid is far away, and then quickly go for the kill on the druid. If the druid happens to slip away, simply turn back to the hunter. If he is out of mana, there should be little pressure on your shaman and eventually their druid will run off to drink, in which case you can burst the hunter down with heroism. Make sure to constantly LOS the hunter. | |
| Entrepid | Apr 3, 2008 - 4:49 AM (HideShow) |
| if you have acombo you are having trouble with let me know, ill try to help. 2200 with warrior shaman at 59-9 | |
| Carrane | Apr 3, 2008 - 4:51 AM (HideShow) |
| I am pretty sure we would all love to know how to go about double DPS... AKA: Spriest/rogue, Mage/rogue, warlock/rogue | |
| Entrepid | Apr 3, 2008 - 5:52 AM (HideShow) |
| FOR ALL OF THE DOUBLE DPS POP HEROISM EARLY Alright Shadow Priest Rogue , from what i usually see is they either 1) Go for the shaman all out or 2) Rogue on shaman , Spriest on Warrior If they are on the shaman you should be on the shadow priest, splitting both of them apart, a shaman can easily kite a rogue espically with 2.4 and the ghost wolf changes. The only time I, as a warrior , am on a rogue is to intercept and hamstring or to get out of los. Mage Rogue: Usually they will go for your shaman, otherwise it will make it harder for them with a warrior having a full rage bar, so you should be on the mage, splitting them just like Shadow Priest Rogue, you will get cc'd more so you should keep slows on both of them at all times for when it happens so your shaman doesn't get bursted. Mage should die first , shaman could start to weaken rogue with frost shock kiting etc.. Warlock Rogue: This can be hard if their warlock is smart enough to tongues your shaman, what I usually do is i stack a few sunders, deathwish heroism and sweeping strikes, this usually takes the pet out early and makes him weakened, once pet dies I follow that with an intercept to get attacks off before the fel domination, after he does that, he should already be close to death, the shaman has to be kiting alot of they are on him, keep tremors down If any questions just ask.. prob missed some just threw this together in like 5 mins | |
| Mclovîn | Apr 4, 2008 - 7:16 PM (HideShow) |
| I am having a hard time with Rogue/any..... I get locked down all the time. I not sure what to do/ Thanks again | |
| Entrepid | Apr 5, 2008 - 2:58 AM (HideShow) |
| ill usually just use a shield and sword and stay on the rogue with sunders | |
| Kadrix | Apr 7, 2008 - 8:33 AM (HideShow) |
| You should really include more things in this guide, such as specing for both classes and gemming, as well as more fight guides. | |
| Limewire | Apr 7, 2008 - 8:01 PM (HideShow) |
| Yeah, I could do that. But, lately I've been really busy. | |
| Pandra | Apr 8, 2008 - 6:13 PM (HideShow) |
| juke kicks and win | |
| Inimitable | Apr 9, 2008 - 1:57 AM (HideShow) |
| I was not able to locate the addons "Afflicted" and "Spellalert" on curse gaming. The addons there were similar in name but did not perform according to Limewire's description. If someone could tell me exactly where I could get a hold of those addons I'd appreciate it. | |
| Timid | Apr 9, 2008 - 2:43 AM (HideShow) |
| Would love to get "Afflicted" and "Spellalert" aswell. | |
| Limewire | Apr 9, 2008 - 7:08 PM (HideShow) |
| http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=15619 | |
| Jrmilitia | Apr 10, 2008 - 12:55 AM (HideShow) |
| Advice against druid/rogue please. This is the most challenging combo we've faced because of how often their druid can get away w/o consequences, were 2050 rated so these arnt scrub teams. Any advice would help. | |
| Felanor | Apr 11, 2008 - 11:36 AM (HideShow) |
| Limewire thanks for improving this guide. Could you add Mirroer matches vs other Shaman/War teamms please. | |
| Gizmoes | Apr 11, 2008 - 7:07 PM (HideShow) |
| I currently have the S3 mace and getting the S3 sword as well on tuesday, which of these is best for the warrior/shaman combo? The mace has given us clutch stuns allowing us to win but the burst damage from the sword could've made it an easier match. Anyone thoughts? | |
| Limewire | Apr 11, 2008 - 9:29 PM (HideShow) |
| @Felanor for a mirror match you want to first look what spec the shaman is. If he's 0/9/52 focus the shaman. If the shaman is 0/20/41 you'll be bouncing on the warrior & the shaman a lot. There isn't much to it, except for if the other warrior is on your shaman, Intercept to him so your shaman gets away and may be able to drink. Keep r1 WF totem down at basically all times. Try to Bloodlust if you get another target down to 30-40% depending on the situation, you don't want to Bloodlust when no one is low health because then it'll just get Purged immediately. Honestly, it's pretty basic you just don't want to tunnel vision on the warrior or the shaman. | |
| Limewire | Apr 11, 2008 - 9:33 PM (HideShow) |
| @Gizmoes Personally I prefer maces just because if a warrior is on a druid and he gets a sword proc it can easily be healed through, but if he gets a mace stun that is a lot harder to heal through. But, they can both be good, so it's really up to you. | |
| Felanor | Apr 12, 2008 - 4:41 PM (HideShow) |
| How can you see his spec? I thought blizz changed it so that you can't tell from proximo in pvp. | |
| Hps | Apr 12, 2008 - 8:03 PM (HideShow) |
| Where can I get that Afflicted addon?? I can't seem to find it anywhere.. | |
| Limewire | Apr 12, 2008 - 8:11 PM (HideShow) |
| @Felanor No, but you'll definitely notice once you put a Hamstring on the shaman since it'll only last for five seconds instead of ten seconds. | |
| Limewire | Apr 12, 2008 - 8:14 PM (HideShow) |
| @Hps http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8468-AfflictedBETA.html | |
| Felanor | Apr 12, 2008 - 11:16 PM (HideShow) |
| True, just realised that whislt discussing with my 2s partner ;] | |
| Sector | Apr 15, 2008 - 12:18 PM (HideShow) |
| I do not think that Spell Alert Currently works in 2.4 - Unless it was updated recently. Just wondering, are there any mods like arena master that show buffs of the opposition, and editable "large buffs( ones that you can customize to see the more important enemy buffs at a larger scale)" | |
| Limewire | Apr 15, 2008 - 7:26 PM (HideShow) |
| Do you mean Afflicted? | |
| Ddeathjr | Apr 16, 2008 - 7:59 PM (HideShow) |
| i would strongly suggest adding to the tips and tricks that you cant get sapped in ghost wolf, and grounding totem absorbs ice trap. those 2 ive noticed alot of people dont know about. | |
| Limewire | Apr 17, 2008 - 3:39 PM (HideShow) |
| Good suggestion, I'll PM the mod about that. | |
| Nakamura | Apr 17, 2008 - 10:23 PM (HideShow) |
| doood limewire pst a video or sumthin plz i played u in 3's a couple times and u rock us... DO EET | |
| Limewire | Apr 17, 2008 - 11:50 PM (HideShow) |
| It's coming soon, just trying to get some more 3v3 clips on the TR. I might not have as much 2v2 clips as I want though since my 2v2 warrior quit :( | |
| Gizmoes | Apr 18, 2008 - 12:55 AM (HideShow) |
| So my shaman used to be 0/20/41 and then we found out that when I get focused it's harder for him to keep me up. Now is he 0/9/52 and he has a hard time with rogues/druids. Which spec do you perfer for just straight up 2v2 Lime? | |
| Nakamura | Apr 18, 2008 - 1:22 AM (HideShow) |
| thanor quit? why????????????????????? dude u guys were my idols... when we lost a game i be like, dude we can do this, just think about limewire and thanor dude | |
| Limewire | Apr 18, 2008 - 3:30 AM (HideShow) |
| I prefer 0/20/41 Gizmos. Mostly because it's a huge help vs warrior/druid teams, and I get to stack more +heal/mp5 as opposed to stam/resil. @Nakamura Well, he might come back. He's been having, ''Personal issues.'' So, he's not sure if he's going to come back or not. | |
| Timahh | Apr 18, 2008 - 11:03 PM (HideShow) |
| May someone post a strat regarding Lock/Hunter combos. I still don't have an amazing weapon and this team knocked us down a good 20-30 points last night by locking down my sham early and I could not peel them off in time. Also, Moonkin / Resto Sham. I had never faced this combo prior to last night. Please advise what technique "should" work vs these two matchups. Thanks. | |
| Limewire | Apr 19, 2008 - 12:44 AM (HideShow) |
| Was that actually a serious question? | |
| Timahh | Apr 19, 2008 - 1:05 AM (HideShow) |
| yes : ( | |
| Nakamura | Apr 20, 2008 - 5:27 PM (HideShow) |
| so.... whens the vid comin out :D | |
| Limewire | Apr 21, 2008 - 1:03 AM (HideShow) |
| Hopefully soon :), trying to get some 3v3 clips on the TR. It kinda sucks though on the TR getting 200-300 ping | |
| Limewire | Apr 24, 2008 - 3:30 AM (HideShow) |
| For anyone that cares, here's some clips that I'm going to put into my pvp video. Since the pvp video is taking forever to make. http://files.filefront.com/LimewirePvPclipwmv/;10066706;/fileinfo.html | |
| Jayci | Apr 25, 2008 - 4:00 AM (HideShow) |
| Please could you post a strategy against Spriest/AffLock? Or is there not one cos my war dies in roughly 3 seconds? ... | |
| Hierro | Apr 27, 2008 - 3:09 PM (HideShow) |
| Will that video show arena from the warrior's PoV? Vid lookin' good so far anyway. | |
| Limewire | Apr 28, 2008 - 8:24 PM (HideShow) |
| Hmmmmm, it probably won't. Although, my warrior is planning on releasing a PvP video when he comes back from his break. | |
| Dhorik | Apr 29, 2008 - 12:52 AM (HideShow) |
| thanor is coming back? thanor is making a video!? jesus lives???? | |
| Limewire | Apr 29, 2008 - 8:46 PM (HideShow) |
| yes yes yes | |
| Ggnub | Apr 29, 2008 - 9:55 PM (HideShow) |
| Watching the Blood Fury trick in action makes me want to reroll orc. It must be so much easier vs rogue/DPS teams when you have 15% stun resist and can kite a rogue all over the place with blood fury. | |
| Noßle | Apr 30, 2008 - 2:39 PM (HideShow) |
| Hello ladies and gents, any chance to get some advice or guide on taking down a Hunter/Pally combo? | |
| Neokrebs | Apr 30, 2008 - 11:06 PM (HideShow) |
| hunter pally, never seen that. I would suggest just, i have no idea. I guess going for the pally is decent and trying to kite the hunter or just burst the hunter really | |
| Caked | Apr 30, 2008 - 11:18 PM (HideShow) |
| IMO this is one of the easiest combos for my team, be capt purge on priest drop cleanse totem with you as needed, as shammy and warrior are on priest ignoring rogue completely.. GG murder priest with BL and WF and purge.. EZ mode | |
| Alecta | May 2, 2008 - 1:27 AM (HideShow) |
| hunter/pally... i would have warrior kill pet while shaman shocks the pally... then when pet is dead kill the hunter while shaman is kiting him and shockin pally when he can. | |
| Biospawn | May 2, 2008 - 10:50 PM (HideShow) |
| wtb dreamstate druid/feral druid advice. gone 1-1 with em. i hate this team with all my..my...hate. | |
| Dhorik | May 3, 2008 - 9:26 PM (HideShow) |
| biospawn... | |
| Wickleer | May 4, 2008 - 12:04 AM (HideShow) |
| Ran into a Ret Pally/ShS Rogue team, tried to get on the rogue, had massive problems staying on him. Did we just fail to execute or going after the Ret Pally is a better solution? | |
| Neokrebs | May 4, 2008 - 1:45 AM (HideShow) |
| dunno you could burst ret pally and CC rogue somewhat, purge bop and its pretty much gg | |
| Neokrebs | May 5, 2008 - 11:17 PM (HideShow) |
| Played 60+ games this week my rating fluctuated so much. Went from 2184 to a whopping i think 2044 now. We regained our rating back like 4-5 times. I think this week im stopping at a mid 2100 rating lol | |
| Nakamura | May 6, 2008 - 10:43 PM (HideShow) |
| this is kinda off topic... but limeiwre, what comp did u run on 5's when u were 2nd or 1st place... and were u resto for it? also, wut 3v3 comp u run | |
| Nakamura | May 6, 2008 - 10:43 PM (HideShow) |
| limewire* | |
 Evuldoer | May 7, 2008 - 11:18 AM (HideShow) |
| Hi all, I'm new to the scene and new at PvP (my rating of just over 1000 will confirm that ^_^). I lost my 40 first matches but lately I'm getting the hang of it with my pal and we're winning 40-50% of our matches now. My pal = a War with S1 gear and me = resto Sham with some S1 gear and crap gear. We don't kick ass yet but we start to suck less lately :) ... however, yesterday we encountered a team that we couldn't possibly defeat so I guess our tactics were wrong. It was a Warlock/Mage combo with a Void. We encountered them 3 times and 3 times we lost horribly without even a chance of winning. Any strategies against such a combo would be great ^_^. What they did was CC'd one of us and just DPS'd the other down (with the amount of DPS they had we went down fast !). Help >_< ! | |
| Neokrebs | May 7, 2008 - 11:34 AM (HideShow) |
| Warlock/mage is very hard evuld. The one time i managed to kill this time in the 2100 bracket was i quickly split dps got the mage to literally like 30% then killed the warlock, my shaman then managed to kill the oom mage. Id try to rape the mage until he Iceblocks get some damage done to the warlock and hope they dont kill tremor/grounding totem | |
| Limewire | May 7, 2008 - 8:59 PM (HideShow) |
| We ran 2346, we haven't played in like 3 weeks though because our priest is never on. Hopefully we can play soon again :(. | |
| Dhorik | May 8, 2008 - 11:32 PM (HideShow) |
| strat for warlock/resto shaman go. | |
| Limewire | May 9, 2008 - 6:40 PM (HideShow) |
| I was thinking about writing that, but writing guides are a pain :( | |
| Neokrebs | May 9, 2008 - 7:34 PM (HideShow) |
| havent faced many lock/rshaman but wouldnt you kill the pet then burst shaman before the lock CoT, no idea but eh | |
| Shammerz | May 10, 2008 - 7:52 AM (HideShow) |
| so..... what do you do when their warrior is on your warrior, and they match you for intercepts? And for some unknown reason, with a windfury totem down, purging their warrior, their warrior outdpses mine. How.... I have no idea. Druid also easily stays ahead on healing because well... druid mana efficiency ftw... | |
| Actionjaxxon | May 11, 2008 - 9:18 PM (HideShow) |
| The following teams have a field day with us and we lose many many points to them because they are all common teams. Spriest/Lock. Rogue/Rogue. This is a more uncommon team, Ret-Paladin/lock and Ret-Paladin/Mage but they are becoming suprisingly popular in my BG and they just romp us every time we see them by destroying the shaman. Anyone having the same issues? Are these matches im supposed to lose? My shammy and I tanked about 150 points today losing to these combos among our other counter comps. Gotta love seeing 1 priest rogue and 8 rogue/mages. | |
| Neokrebs | May 12, 2008 - 11:38 AM (HideShow) |
| Rogue/rogue shouldnt be too hard imo. Try and let your shaman tank one and you burn one down with bleeds and overpower by then you might have to 1v1 a rogue at like 80% but it should work. | |
| Neokrebs | May 12, 2008 - 9:43 PM (HideShow) |
| RIP limewire :( | |
| Phraid | May 13, 2008 - 12:26 AM (HideShow) |
| Hey action =P anyway, yeah Hi, i'm new to the hardcore arena scene, although I have fairly decent gear at 4/5 vengeful and 346 resil. A good friend and I started to 2v2 (He is a 5/5 vengeful war) and this guide is definately a big help. One thing I would like to know though, through the last few days of practice skirmishes we have seen some major random setups. By that I mean, people from different servers who are randomly set up class wise that just tear through us, whereas we're doing fairly well against druid/war teams and mage/rogue teams. Being on BG9 I don't expect to see too many of these, since we are starting from a 2k rated team, but are there any random teams that I should be looking out for that may not intimidate me that could cause a problem? It seems that the random setups throw us off the most, so if anyone could throw out some info on non-expected teams that would be cool! | |
| Dhorik | May 14, 2008 - 8:45 PM (HideShow) |
| limewire beasting up arena in full t6 | |
| Neokrebs | May 14, 2008 - 9:33 PM (HideShow) |
| wtb pve items | |
| Calus | May 14, 2008 - 10:05 PM (HideShow) |
| I've come across this team a few times and its usually a very 1 sided fight to our loss. We had it very 1 sided in our favor once, my warrior spell reflected the poly 2x, was beautiful. | |
| Dhorik | May 15, 2008 - 2:41 AM (HideShow) |
| uh calus, what? lol | |
| Nakamura | May 15, 2008 - 3:24 AM (HideShow) |
| hey lime wut 3s did u run | |
| Painfulhits | May 15, 2008 - 2:40 PM (HideShow) |
| Hey lime ... what could you advice a shaman/war team to do against 2x wl teams? We just get fucked up both nuking on me and just double silence/hate this pets) and deathcoil my shaman. | |
 Wizorlock | May 18, 2008 - 10:46 AM (HideShow) |
| @Dhorik, DO NOT let your shaman get feared you win | |
| Limewire | May 19, 2008 - 7:40 PM (HideShow) |
| @Nakamura Right now I'm running warrior/Enhance shaman/R druid on the TR. Haven't really played on live in a while. @Painfulhits Hmmmm, double warlock team. Yeah, that's a pain. But what I would do is just Bloodlust right away. Intercept to the warlocks, and you would probably want to Intervene back to your shaman so he could heal you, and you could kill the Fel Hunters. It'd be pretty basic I guess. Just make sure your shaman is keeping Tremor down, and you're both interrupting the Fears. | |
| Nakamura | May 24, 2008 - 2:02 AM (HideShow) |
| lime did u seriosly just get 2nd place r druid enh shaman ms warrior? wut kind of insane super shaman r u | |
| Hellenkeller | May 24, 2008 - 6:46 PM (HideShow) |
| I'm back in the game for the first time in a few months, expect the rating to go upppppp. More terrible strats inc! | |
| Nakamura | May 27, 2008 - 3:22 AM (HideShow) |
| and lime on live wow what 3s team did u run to get 2400? r druid r shaman warrior? | |
| Limewire | May 27, 2008 - 11:01 PM (HideShow) |
| Yes, trying to push for vengeful gladiator with it too. Because it would be retarded trying to go for vengeful gladiator with warrior/shaman in 2's especially with all the druid/warrior teams. | |
| Elethunn | May 28, 2008 - 1:08 AM (HideShow) |
| Nakamura | May 28, 2008 - 1:21 AM (HideShow) |
| dam. first off, is your druid DS? and how do u beat RPM with that 3v3 team. plus, cant sham/warr beat druid warr in 2s? i mean u and thanor did hit 1st place in it | |
| Limewire | May 28, 2008 - 6:57 PM (HideShow) |
| Nah, he's Resto. For RMP. We go on the priest to start with, once I purge the priest, I start purging the mage, so once he IV's or gets a PI I can purge that off instantly. We usually stick on the priest, but we'll switch to the mage sometimes. When we're on the priest we try to shut down the mage as much as possible, so he doesn't get a Polymorph or shatter combo off. And once the mage summons a Water Elemental we try to kill it as fast as possible. For shaman/warrior I'd say we have a 25% of beating druid/warrior only if we get a good burst on the druid. Honestly, any good druid/warrior should beat shaman/warrior. All they have to do is stick on my warrior, and whenever we Intercept to the druid they Intercept our warrior. And when it's just a warrior vs warrior fight, the druid will obviously win with how retarded Lifebloom is. | |
| Nakamura | May 31, 2008 - 3:19 AM (HideShow) |
| lime why are u wearing s1 we just played | |
| Nakamura | May 31, 2008 - 3:19 AM (HideShow) |
| i was like /wait /wait /wait lol | |
| Limewire | Jun 1, 2008 - 11:57 PM (HideShow) |
| I got suspended for point selling/win-trading. Like we would point sell on our 5v5 and go 5-5 with our other 5v5. Meh, the funny thing was they didn't even take any of my gold. They just took my season 3 gear. | |
| Nakamura | Jun 2, 2008 - 1:15 AM (HideShow) |
| lol they took all your season 3... but your still kicking ass | |
| Nakamura | Jun 2, 2008 - 1:17 AM (HideShow) |
| i love u | |
| Nakamura | Jun 2, 2008 - 1:17 AM (HideShow) |
| mt | |
 Syk | Jun 4, 2008 - 1:29 PM (HideShow) |
| how bout a shadow priest/ lock strat? | |
| Briggz | Jun 4, 2008 - 2:23 PM (HideShow) |
| OMFG... limewire. That is so sad dude. Every time I would get discouraged, I would armory you and see that you were still in the #1 spot. Get it back! Get it back for all the shamans out there! | |
| Limewire | Jun 8, 2008 - 12:37 AM (HideShow) |
| Trying to :P My 3v3 druid hasn't been playing much, so we need a druid to try to get it in 3's :O. | |
| Nakamura | Jun 8, 2008 - 9:35 PM (HideShow) |
| thx for stealing my line briggz | |
| Treb | Jun 10, 2008 - 7:34 AM (HideShow) |
| I'd really like to see some sample keybinds and UI screens like in the Druid/Hunter guide. I'm considering rebinding everything. | |
| Ralin | Jun 21, 2008 - 2:17 AM (HideShow) |
| Any idea on Shadow Priest/Warlock? | |
| Dhorik | Jun 25, 2008 - 6:41 PM (HideShow) |
| full sr gear fails again | |
 Loth | Jun 27, 2008 - 11:49 PM (HideShow) |
| Ok it seems a new anti shaman warrior combo emerged. Priest frost Mage no matter to whom we go the other rapes me or my shammy. Any insight to deal with this threat or is it like frost mage rogue 95% auto loss? | |
| Dhorik | Jun 29, 2008 - 3:24 AM (HideShow) |
| mage rogue isnt 95% auto loss and is actually not that hard if you los and interupt correctly, against priest mage I guess just stay on the mage to avoid getting shattered and have your shaman grounding/los mana burn | |
| Niafix | Jun 30, 2008 - 5:44 PM (HideShow) |
| Mage/priest isn't so bad, but you have to play very defensively instead of offensively. It's sort of like mage/rogue, but they have no way of controling your shm :). Just take your time and let the mage get low/out of mana, then you win. | |
| Dermen | Jul 1, 2008 - 4:42 PM (HideShow) |
| Anyone have any ideas on how to go about beating any combonation of hunter,lock,shadow priest?? | |
| Bulkee | Jul 3, 2008 - 5:01 AM (HideShow) |
| Dermen, i haven't come across that group of guys and as a shaman i had no idea that you couldn't get sap'd while in Ghost wolf, im going to have to try that out... ty for all the info and Dermen, i'll get back to you when i find out more about that that group of guys | |
| Punkers | Jul 4, 2008 - 7:31 PM (HideShow) |
| @Biospawn Who in the world would ever run Dreamstate/Feral? What a bad combo. Those guys must be terrible. | |
| Xolly | Jul 5, 2008 - 3:10 PM (HideShow) |
| So where can i find the afflicted addon? =) thanks in advance ! | |
| Treinjo | Jul 6, 2008 - 11:03 AM (HideShow) |
| Xolly if you have trouble finding it on the Web just DL WowMatrix or WowAceUpdater and search the addons, thats how i got mine =) | |
| Ddeathjr | Jul 8, 2008 - 9:13 AM (HideShow) |
| google curse gaming click first link type in: afflicted download mod i hope this helps i tried my best to keep it simple | |
| Refrain | Jul 8, 2008 - 5:08 PM (HideShow) |
| What about against Mage/Lock or Rogue/Hunter? | |
| Ddeathjr | Jul 8, 2008 - 11:25 PM (HideShow) |
| whenever my warrior and i go vs hunter rogue, assuming theyre targeting you, have your warrior on the rogue, youll be able los without the rogue and he wont be able to kite your warrior the way a hunter can | |
| Ddeathjr | Jul 8, 2008 - 11:26 PM (HideShow) |
| my strat for mage lock is /afk basically same as ua lock sp | |
| Quake | Jul 10, 2008 - 1:38 AM (HideShow) |
| So who are the top Shammy/War combos these days??? or have all the wars traded in their used Shaman for a new model Druid. Interested to see how some of them deal with all the double dps combos today, especially the hybrid dps/healer + dps teams. (restokin/priest)+rogue. | |
| Tinyg | Jul 13, 2008 - 2:12 AM (HideShow) |
| Me and my Ms warrior just started a team, so i decided to get the add-ons above but could not find the addon's "Afflicted", and "Jims Cooldowns Pulse 2". Im not sure if they have been taken from curse or what... Also i had a question is there something were doing wrong, because when we come up against a Disc. Priest team we can't seem to beat the | |