Strategies
Shadow Priest/Rogue (Lilic)
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  | Everz Ghostlands US-Retaliation |
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General Information
I try to explain each matchup as clearly as I can, but some require more explanation than others, and a lot of the time it's more about reacting to the situation than following a strict timeline.
Remember that this guide is mostly from personal experience; what works for us may not work for everyone else. This is somewhat from the Priest's perspective but not entirely.
Like many double DPS teams in 2v2, Shadow Priest/Rogue is a fast paced combo with a strict set of CC and follows a somewhat linear strategy which branches off in many directions depending on the situation and the opponents' strategies.
Things to remember:
Remember that this guide is mostly from personal experience; what works for us may not work for everyone else. This is somewhat from the Priest's perspective but not entirely.
Like many double DPS teams in 2v2, Shadow Priest/Rogue is a fast paced combo with a strict set of CC and follows a somewhat linear strategy which branches off in many directions depending on the situation and the opponents' strategies.
Things to remember:
- Against almost every matchup (with the exception of Healer/Warlock), always use Fear instead of Blind if both are up and can be successfully used. For short fights, Blind is pretty much a one-time deal, whereas Fear should be used at least twice, so using it as early as possible gives you time for it to cool down for more usages.
- Blade Flurry breaks CCs currently (2.3.3) so be careful if you're going to use it, especially if there is a CC'ed target nearby.
- Priest should remember to keep Weakened Soul, as well as Inner Fire up at all times if he is targeted
Builds
Priest
20/0/41: Definitely the most popular and probably the most effective spec out there for Shadow Priests, at least when playing with a Rogue. The 41 points in Shadow are pretty standard, whereas the 20 in Discipline has some variation. Absolution is extremely important, with many matchups Dispel will be the number one most used spell and the mana cost reduction is amazing. Personally I like having Meditation for the extra MP5, just for those long matches against Healer/Warlock
Rogue
0/33/28 or 0/31/30: Despite AR/Hemo being weaker than it used to be, it is still generally the best spec for this particular setup. It is the only spec with mace stuns, Adrenaline Rush, Preparation, and useful support talents in the Subtlety tree. Shadow Step is workable, but it is significantly less effective in many matchups. If you are Undead, go with 0/31/30 since you don't really need the Fear resist as much. If you are any other race 0/33/28 is probably better.
Gear
Priest
I try to stack around 450 resilience. 400 just doesn't seem to be enough anymore with the Season 3 armor penetration for melee classes. After 450, just stack damage. As for trinkets, I use Medallion and a spell damage booster trinket like Icon of the Silver Cresent. I don't find Battlemasters to be all that useful for this setup; the extra hp usually won't save you from a loss.
Rogue
My rogue uses full S3 + Vindicators, but he's RARELY focused in any matchup so I recommend using post-SSC/TK raid gear if you have access to it. The Rogue really only needs about 300 resilience, so fill the other slots with the best PvE pieces. As mace spec ARr/Hemo you'll want maces for weapons, and S3 maces are probably the best choice hands down.
Matchups
Comments: | |
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 Surreall | Mar 20, 2008 - 7:21 PM (HideShow) |
| Great comprehensive guide, I played you with my warlock partner incisor at ~2200 rating, definitely the best spriest/rogue in our group. /thumbsup | |
| Ohreally | Mar 21, 2008 - 6:03 PM (HideShow) |
| The rogue build you posted is alright I agree that if the rogue is undead he doesnt need the points in Nerves of Steel. But at the same time I feel if your human you dont need the points in HS. One last thing your strats are all viable and its pretty well written, but next time you want to get farmed hit me up im always up for farming you two. | |
 Lisp | Mar 22, 2008 - 1:08 AM (HideShow) |
| I really liked this guide, even though I'm still ShadowStep and you said I should be HARP for Mace Stuns, AR and all that jazz, I still like ShadowStep better. Again, great guide. ^_^. | |
 Lilic | Mar 23, 2008 - 4:27 AM (HideShow) |
| Hi Ohreally | |
 Teufel | Mar 24, 2008 - 12:21 AM (HideShow) |
| if only their was a shadowpreist on my server -cry- | |
 Bobez | Apr 12, 2008 - 9:52 AM (HideShow) |
| Shadowstep sacrifices the mace stun an AR for the most part but Shadowstep if better for not letting your enemy getting away b/c you can shadowstep shiv. If you plan on going shadowstep I recommend going 0-17-44. | |
| Vidich | Apr 14, 2008 - 9:40 AM (HideShow) |
| Great guide :) | |
| Whattheheal | Apr 22, 2008 - 2:12 PM (HideShow) |
| Any ideas on what to do for ret pally / mage | |
| Lilic | Apr 25, 2008 - 1:54 AM (HideShow) |
| A lot easier than rogue/mage. Sap the pally and go for the mage. Follow sap with fear, then blind, then another fear. With rogue on mage, it should be fairly easy to kite the pillar kite the pally when he bubbles. They have no undispellable slow on the priest so you could pillar kite the pally indefinitely as long as you have distance on him and can LOS his repentence. Trinket pally stun. | |
| Mindset | May 4, 2008 - 11:26 PM (HideShow) |
| What spec should your rogue go if he has glaives? O.o | |
| Lilic | May 8, 2008 - 5:34 AM (HideShow) |
| Prolly ShS since glaive top-end is so OP. These strats are meant for HARP rogue though. | |
| Garreh | May 9, 2008 - 11:27 AM (HideShow) |
| mage/rogue is driving me mad! | |
| Xc | May 21, 2008 - 6:12 PM (HideShow) |
| cant the rogue be mutilate if he is rarely focused? | |
 Oriel | May 22, 2008 - 12:22 AM (HideShow) |
| Thank you for doing this guide. How much hit rating does a rogue in this set-up need? And what should he gem/enchant for? | |
| Everz | May 25, 2008 - 2:41 AM (HideShow) |
| @Xc: Losing prep and mace stuns can hurt you in a lot of matchups, especially with all the vanish sapping the rogue should be doing. It could work, but I feel HARP is much stronger. @Oriel: 78 hit for max pvp hit, then gem for AP/crit. Gem agi/hit if you're not hit capped. You should only need one +4 hit gem if you're full s3. | |
| Garreh | Jun 5, 2008 - 12:51 AM (HideShow) |
| as mace stuns can proc from auto hits, 90-100 hit rating is pretty good as well as the precision talent adding to this. | |
| Shaithis | Jun 5, 2008 - 4:32 PM (HideShow) |
| @Bobez, 0/17/44, are you brain-damaged? | |
 Step | Jul 19, 2008 - 3:20 AM (HideShow) |
| This spec was working very well for me, although I am somewhat new to Arena. I just received my OH glaive and am wondering weather or not to stick with maces. We have done some Arenas with me as ShS with the OH glaive and a Blade of Infamy for my MH, but I am not really liking my Damage output. Is AR/Prep Swords a viable spec for Arena? Or should I go back to my prep maces? | |
| Bladecarrier | Jul 23, 2008 - 1:39 AM (HideShow) |
| so is this combo still very effective? And what about this rogue spec? is AR/Prep w/ mace stun still a good build with this combo? | |
| Chue | Jul 24, 2008 - 8:12 PM (HideShow) |
| I like the rogue build. Question: How do you guys approach 2 SL/SL locks and beat them. Both decently geared with 400+ resil. Ran in them with my SP partner and even though we lost. We couldn't figure out the strategy to execute a win. Any thoughts? | |
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