| Murphylizzle Ravenholdt US-Whirlwind |
Rogue/Warlock | VS. | Priest/Rogue |
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| Mar 5, 2008 - 9:17 AM (HideShow) | |
| how the hell am I supposed to win this? We are gnum lock and muti nelf rogue vs ud rogue ud priest. we cant CC the rogue really, cause of WOTF fear ward COS and insane interruptions, and cant kill him either cause i cant cc priest | |
| Mar 5, 2008 - 9:50 AM (HideShow) | |
| Yeah undead will suck. WIth priest resists, fear ward, WoTF, it is hard to CC the priest. I would almost want to cry if I saw this matchup. But I guess we would try sapping rogue and getting on priest. With a Amplified CoEX hopefully the rogue can open quickly. You can try fearing the rogue while sapped to get rid of fear ward if he has it and to force a WoTF early. Also put CoEX while sapped to make him CloS when he gets out. Then try to get out of ShS range. It is tough. I would use the felhunter initally trying to dispel priest and silence priest while we damage him, then switch to void quickly and CoW rogue once he is on you. You aren't getting him off really from then on. Maybe you can deathcoil and fear, since maybe he already used WOTF and CloS to get to you, and Fear ward is off. Then you can blind if he trinkets. But everything has to go right. Seems like a tough matchup. | |
| Mar 11, 2008 - 4:21 PM (HideShow) | |
| Basically, Step1: Get your rogue to sap the priest, Step2: Fear the Priest IF he has fear ward during sap. Step3: Make sure your rogue is always ontop of you, Once the rogue jumps you get your rogue to 5point stun the rogue so that you can get a fear on this rogue. Step4: Get your rogue on priest the whole fight with warlock pet on priest. Step5: Kite the Rogue with CoEx or fear spams. ITS ALL ABOUT TRINKETS. once the rogue has used his trinket get your rogue to blind the other rogue while you bandage. re sap rogue if u can. Step5: Priest should still be in combat since you have your pet on him both you and your rogue got to town on this priest, when fear DR is back up re fear the rogue CoEx kite again. Step 6: Priest should be dead. REMEMBER. its all about those trinkets BUT if you happen to get the jump on that rogue and a sap on the priest just DPS rogue down cc priest. trinket blind sap DR fear re fear etc.. | |
| Mar 17, 2008 - 8:50 PM (HideShow) | |
| At the start of this fight, the lock and rogue need to stay close together so that the rogue has felhunter's stealth detection, this'll allow you to sap the other rogue. Once this is done, the rogue should sprint & shadowstep to the priest and start attacking him as soon as possible. Warlock should assist with DoTs + curse of tongues. Also, the warlock should stick a DoT on the rogue before sap expires so that he can't stealth (or is forced to CoS in order to stealth - the priest will be too busy worrying about the rogue up his arse to care that his team mate on the other side of the arena needs a dispel). So if the rogue doesn't restealth, it's easy as you can easily pull a fear off/blind him, and if he's forced to use his CoS early, it's also a good thing as it allows you to get some CC in. The priest should go down pretty easily with a rogue, felhunter, curse of shadows and DoTs on him - just make sure that you TIME your silences/stuns/deathcoils with your communication. i.e. "I'm kicking now.... ok now you silence!". | |
| Mar 18, 2008 - 6:36 PM (HideShow) | |
| Rogue/priest seems like a pretty good counter-comp to Warlock/Rogue. Think about it.. warlock can easily be shut down by the rogue, and if the rogue is undead.. gg. All the warlock can do is basically throw full dots on the priest.. Priest should be able to heal through a few dots and a rogue if they can kite well.. especially with pain suppression and power infusion to back them up. | |
| Mar 25, 2008 - 10:32 AM (HideShow) | |
| Alright, This is a tough fight but it can be won if you play it by the book and dont miss anything. First. Warlock: Start off by having Void sac on you when match begins, figure out what your going up against. Ok rogue/priest, Summon a void walker for that extra 10% dmg reduction. The rogue will not go after your pet, he will go for you. That 10% helps immensely, stay on your mount as lnog as possible while your rogue trys to sap their priest, once sapped, run over to the priest and cast ONE fear, The reason is because he will have fear ward on, take it off him and put CoT on him at the same time. WAIT! for their rogue to get out have your rogue on him, trinket out of kidney shot. CS the priest, DC the priest, fear the priest, dot up the rogue as much possible. blind the priest. priest will trinket at this point cause the rogue will be low. you should already be casting fear soon as he trinkets, keep CoT on him. SHOUT to your rogue when fear is about up so he can try to sap, then get right back on the rogue. by this time you will probably have killed the rogue if you played it by the book, if not....then yeah its a loss... Hope this is helpful to you all. | |
| Apr 4, 2008 - 5:59 PM (HideShow) | |
| I always win by killing the priest and im playing it over 2k right now, the sap on the rogue works good, if the rogue is smart he will open with shadowstep if he can, have your lock full dot the priest and after dots work on ccing the rogue, priest do not live long against a lock dots and a rogue on him this start leaves the lock and priest dead, if your rogue cant 1v1 another rogue...find a better rogue | |
| Apr 12, 2008 - 5:10 AM (HideShow) | |
| I love these strategies that involve summoning a voidwalker and then "CS"ing the priest, or somehow CCing a priest with fear! | |
| Apr 15, 2008 - 11:56 PM (HideShow) | |
| I think by CS they are referring to cheap shot, and fearing the preist become much easier once you kill the fear ward while he is sapped. | |
| May 13, 2008 - 8:06 PM (HideShow) | |
| Against this combo will be hard to cc the priest... kick,fear ward,will of the forsaken, trinket... and if u do 1 thing wrong u lose cause the priest will trow hots,shield and PS at the rogue... So what do u have to do is kill the priest and kite the rogue!! The warlock needs to be very smart using the DC/fear and exaustion at the right time, and allways keep the pet and dots at the priest, if he cast, spell lock him... the priest should be dead wile the rogue is around 50-60%/doted and the lock dead too... so it will be rogue against rogue... but the rogue of the (rogue-lock) team should prob win (cause of the coldowns and hp) ... its a hard combo anyway... | |
| Jun 12, 2008 - 7:12 PM (HideShow) | |
| well..the only way to win is to get down the priest!Its gonna be hard to cc the priest ecpesially if hes UD(Fear war/Forsaken/Trinket).Dont dot the rogue cause the mending will @@ u up.CC the rogue and pray hard. | |
| Jul 5, 2008 - 10:25 AM (HideShow) | |
| if it's a human priest / rogue it's almost an instant loss if they're any good. They'll drop the rogue out of stealth, cc the lock while smashing the rogue... normally if the priest is any good he'll be helping out on dps to. we won all of our games vs priest / rogue tonight except against a double human combo... when played well they'll roll you.. infact most human combos will end up winning due to perception | |
| Jul 20, 2008 - 9:25 PM (HideShow) | |
| I also have always killed the priest. Just go bumrush the priest, stunlock em and dot/tongues all that jazz, save deathcoil for the rogue. Odds are the priest is gonna have fear ward anyways. Time the stuns with your silence from your pet to avoid fear. Ex.) Rogue opens with cheap shot, gets a kidney. as soon as you see the priest trinket silence him, rogue can vanish/reopen with more stuns or garrote for extra damage. either way he aint castin. Against any caster, consider silence a stun and work it into your stunlock. NOW for the cold sting of reality: where's THEIR rogue? Well, everything mentioned above that the lock has to do can be done while stunned (the pet silences, the priest should be dotted and cursed already.) And I can promise that their priest will be dead before your lock. lock trinket/deathcoil/fears the rogue. even if he's UD he's got the 2 seconds of deathcoil and the 1 second from fear, plus travel distance. Once the rogue comes back your rogue blinds him, your lock keeps the priest occupied (if for some reason hes not dead yet), and vanish/saps the rogue. It's GG. However if their rogue blinds your lock, the situation might get a little sticky. But it's still a rogue vs a basically dead priest. You can avoid this by preparing to blind their rogue after the fear, or blinding the rogue when he comes out (but I wouldn't recommend this strategy, he will trinket/vanish and reopen, wasting your blind). If their rogue jumps yours, well, they're idiots. In theory this sounds very easy, but in practice it's still hard and there are many places where something could easily go wrong and several factors that I haven't thought of as I'm certain someone will flame me with. If you look at the other side I'm sure they have a strategy that's just as sound as this one. | |
| Aug 24, 2008 - 5:11 PM (HideShow) | |
| Annoying combo | |
| Oct 3, 2008 - 7:27 PM (HideShow) | |
| We met this combo and normally train the rogue and CC the priest. Harp mace stun spec ftw. Shiv spam stuns > evasion :D | |
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