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  | Icycake Altar of Storms US-Nightfall |
 | Mage/Rogue | VS. |   | Priest/Warlock |
You will be killing the Warlock first.
Sometimes this team will get too cocky and the Warlock will try to rush you while the Priest is back in the starting area. This is good news. Sap him and Shatter combo. Have your Rogue open on the Warlock. Sheep the Priest and when he trinkets Sheep him again. Send your Water Elemental on the Warlock. When the Polymorphs run out on the Priest, Blind him. Do not Counter Spell yet. DPS the Warlock, Ice Block early to get rid of DoT's. Have a focus bar on the Priest and a focus Counter Spell Macro ready for him.
Counter Spell the Priest only when he casts, don't waste CS on Prayer of Mending spam. By this time the Warlock should need a heal after taking a beating on this whole time. Silence is 8 seconds, Blind is about the same. This brings back your Sheep rotation, Sheep the Priest and DPS the Lock. If you have not killed the Warlock by this time chances are that you both about to die from DoTs. If you do kill the Lock, have the Rogue run away and Bandage/Eat and leave your Mage with the Priest and Sheep him until the Rogue gets back then DPS him down. Your Rogue should be able to solo a Discipline Priest so its really important that the Rogue recovers.
Sometimes this team will get too cocky and the Warlock will try to rush you while the Priest is back in the starting area. This is good news. Sap him and Shatter combo. Have your Rogue open on the Warlock. Sheep the Priest and when he trinkets Sheep him again. Send your Water Elemental on the Warlock. When the Polymorphs run out on the Priest, Blind him. Do not Counter Spell yet. DPS the Warlock, Ice Block early to get rid of DoT's. Have a focus bar on the Priest and a focus Counter Spell Macro ready for him.
Counter Spell the Priest only when he casts, don't waste CS on Prayer of Mending spam. By this time the Warlock should need a heal after taking a beating on this whole time. Silence is 8 seconds, Blind is about the same. This brings back your Sheep rotation, Sheep the Priest and DPS the Lock. If you have not killed the Warlock by this time chances are that you both about to die from DoTs. If you do kill the Lock, have the Rogue run away and Bandage/Eat and leave your Mage with the Priest and Sheep him until the Rogue gets back then DPS him down. Your Rogue should be able to solo a Discipline Priest so its really important that the Rogue recovers.
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 Innarn | Feb 2, 2008 - 10:58 AM (HideShow) |
| In the beginning, u say "Sap him and Shatter combo." What about the felhunter ? its hard to shattercombo a lock, when then felhunter is ready to school lock. And then the priest comes, and threws a few Hots, and your rogues burst is gone. Sheep the priest yes, but its easy to poledance polymorph, and he got shadowword death, and trinket. IMO its much better to nuke the priest and sap the lock+sheep+blind+resap. If he gets free, as a mage u got trinket and cube, and as rogue trinket and clos. In my opinion and lots of others, this works better then nuking the lock. | |
| Revoca | Feb 4, 2008 - 12:08 PM (HideShow) |
| You know sap and sheep share DR's, right Innarn | |
| Innarn | Feb 4, 2008 - 2:11 PM (HideShow) |
| jupp, but i didnt exactly mean to Chain CC the lock. Thats too hard for rogue mage. just try to avoid fears and all, and if u get feared as mage, u got trinket + cube. And as rogue trinket, clos and maybe Will of the forsaken. | |
 Bomberok | Feb 15, 2008 - 8:38 AM (HideShow) |
| Maybe I am really nub. but if this party attacks me ( priest) I am enjoin warlock nuking both mage an rogue. you almost can't cc warlock. Just blind (sheep dispelled by the priest)...blind takes off by a trinket. We have much more troubles if priest is getting cc-ed and warlock is being nuked. coz it is very very difficult to heal the warlock up with a wound poison. | |
| Innarn | Feb 19, 2008 - 11:14 PM (HideShow) |
| i would rather nuke the DISC Priest with wound poison then a 500 res SL/SL tank with wound poison. And maybe its kinda hard to dispell the sheep when u are being nuked. If u go for lock, He has some things to interrupt liek deathcoil and its crap to get arcane school locked. And while all this is happening u are getting eaten up by dots. And if the lock knows how to dispell sheep with his pet, ur fucked. Lock can dispell himself sure, but maybe start with a sap, then blind. Then u got some free seconds. | |
| Icycake | Feb 20, 2008 - 9:55 PM (HideShow) |
| this was based on that we had more wins going for the lock rather than Disc Priest You see alot mage/rogue over 2100+? there is a reason why, FOTM beats this set up | |
 Acandaril | Feb 27, 2008 - 9:42 AM (HideShow) |
| you know a priest and warlock have fears | |
| Innarn | Mar 1, 2008 - 9:21 PM (HideShow) |
| U cant win against Priest/lock, when u are going for lock, and lock knows how to dispell fear. And most locks over 2k know how to do that. U say u cant CC the lock. If the lock priest knows how to play u cant cc priest either. And yes "acandaril" im aware of that. For example in nagrand. A priest will try to kite around the pole. U can also try to poledance the locks fears. And i said in my previous post that mage got trinket and cube to avoid at least some fears, and rogue got clos. Perhaps they got WOF too. U got it now Acandaril? :| | |
| Acandaril | Mar 2, 2008 - 9:50 PM (HideShow) |
| a good priest lock will never lose to this combo. | |
 Missjazz | Mar 6, 2008 - 6:45 AM (HideShow) |
| ^ this. Maybe in ur bg u can sap and shatter lock. | |
 Puwet | Mar 18, 2008 - 8:15 PM (HideShow) |
| all these decisions and the progress of this is really like chess. you have to be 2 moves away. It's not every battle but a good start. The rogue has to be on the warlock with a great stun-lock for sure. You can't let him ease up fearing people but put the pressure on the warlock rogues so he doesn't get to your mage. mage stay WAY back away from the warlock because he will Pwn you. let's your friend (rogue) tear him a new one with a wonderful stunlock. meanwhile when this happens you need to counterspell and sheep the priest. have your rogue dish out the cheap shot to kidney shot.. vanish and cheap shot again to kidney shot. This give just enough time to piss off the priest and waste his trinket... once he does that switch targets because the lock will find a way to fear. Perfect time because he will be too worried about the rogue and gives perfect time to nova, counterspell, and shatter combo... finish off the warlock by now if not have your rogue blind the priest and help finish off the warlock. By this time just have fun.. sheep the priest and both bandage... then go to town. Now they hate this combo and you just got away from being feared like madmen. | |
| Flyupz | Apr 17, 2008 - 2:50 AM (HideShow) |
| IS THIS STRAT A JOKE? 1. You cannot sap a warlock. Why? the second the game starts he will see your mage and send his fel hunter on the mage putting him in combat. So sap on the warlock is eliminated. This is the only working strat I have been able to come up with against this combo - Rogue needs to pre-vanish and sprint to sap the priest. This is the ONLY way you will win. You MUST sap the priest or the fight is over. Blow shatter combo on warlock and lock him down with CS / Ks / prep / vanish / garrote. Blind the felhunter so spell lock is not possible through burst. The priest will HAVE to cast a heal if you are doing this right. You mage MUST counter spell the heal or you lose. Once he is counter spelled the fight should be over. Just kick drain life because that shit if fucking gay. | |
  Maghanon | Apr 23, 2008 - 12:36 PM (HideShow) |
| blinding the felhunter won't last because of soul link damaging the lock will damage the pet, breaking blind | |
| Drsap | Apr 26, 2008 - 5:46 AM (HideShow) |
| This strat doesn't work, lock can get in combat by sending pet after mage, recalling and repeating. If I sap priest and mage sheeps lock, he'll be able to deathcoil me, run from LoS and resummon so fast you can't even kick it, only possibility would be a mage CSing then spellsteal, but LoS ruins that. If lucky he summons VW, but will still outlast burst as priest will use LoS to avoid sheep, also fake heal to get a CS when not casting, and save trinket for blind. Pain suppression, 500 res on lock, and SL doesn't help us survive the dots either... We've met redicilously amount lock + healer(we only have a chance vs druid) past 1850 so we can't get up to 2k cause of this setup. | |
| Wessan | May 7, 2008 - 10:08 AM (HideShow) |
| You will loose all your games against any good slwl/discpriest, pet removes first poly, shadow word death second, pet third, trinket blind, juke a heal to get mage to panic-cs him, gg. Btw, I forgot spell lock frostbolt. | |
| Gomesh | May 7, 2008 - 5:34 PM (HideShow) |
| you just know you are retarded enough to say the priest will trinket out of sheep? | |
| Filloman | May 11, 2008 - 6:39 PM (HideShow) |
| how do you guys think this would work? get a sap off on the priest then the rogue gets on the fel hunter and mage on the lock, when the fel hunter is dead the rogue stun locks the warlock and all making sure that the priest is polyed/blinded or w/e | |
| Mageyoulook | May 11, 2008 - 7:34 PM (HideShow) |
| If the warlock is good enough to have his pet on defensive dispels (which should be expected), the mage needs to start the fight by spamming ice lance on the priest to stack up winters chill before sheeping. It sucks, but it's pretty much the only way to win. Also, you should fake cast the first poly for many reasons: shadow word, pet dispel (warlock has it macro'd and it will put it on cd when it eats a chill), and spell lock. Hope this helps! | |
| Sanosuke | Jun 14, 2008 - 9:10 AM (HideShow) |
| I m sorry to tell this but whoever wrote this post has never played against a serious priest lock combo.Druid lock can be beated with some lucky crits but this one no its totally impossible,if you go for priest then its game over if you go for lock (after his sacrifice is over)you may have a few chances if they are not coordinated.Well rogue saps priest sprints or shadowsteps to lock (mage has already opened on lock) you stun lock and burst dmg the lock/shatter combo (which probably wont work but there are some locks thats just keep the silence for polymorph)then sheep(felhunter removes it) sheep again(4secs? a lock with 500ress will just death coil the rogue and drain life the mage till priest is out of the sheep)blind (trinket) dots are starting to ache...then sheep (normaly the felhunters silence cd will be up if the lock hasnt capped resilience you may as well kill him but the dots will kill both the mage or the rogue otherwise if the rogue isnt undead just fear him and game over(fake casts always work)you may win 2-3secs if caster but still works and you end up being beated..its tottaly impossible if played well at least thats my experience | |
| Scrolltroll | Jun 26, 2008 - 5:34 PM (HideShow) |
| Get a rogue with 2k+ ap , Rush and sap the lock and nuke the shit out of the priest | |
| Nimrahir | Jun 27, 2008 - 10:36 PM (HideShow) |
| Erhm, some moderators should really clear all these crappy posts up, and hard as it may sound, with a good lock/disc, rogue mage will never beat it. There is no sapping the lock and there is no sheeping the priest. Period. The lock gets in combat since he rushes in with void shield, dismount and sent pet on mage. Then the winters chill bit ... as soon as a mage ice lances a priest, all the priest has to do is spam dispel and its removed before the mages global cooldown can throw another ice lance. That way, the priests sheep will always be removed by the felpuppy. Focus the priest is ur best bet imo, but then lock will pretty much solo whats left of the mage/rogue since the lock can free shadowbolt/fear/coil/tongues/exhaust spam. | |
| Zázz | Jun 30, 2008 - 3:54 PM (HideShow) |
| This is so much harder than warlock/druid since priest will keep dispell the warlock when we try to cc him. If we would go for the warlock the felhunter will dispell my sheep after a few secs and the priest will trinket my rogues blind. 8 secs silence on the priest won't really help either when I'm spellocked half the time. Whatever you do it will still end up in your health ticking down while you're feared. A good priest/warlock team should never lose to mage/rogue. | |
| Raxxor | Jul 1, 2008 - 12:00 PM (HideShow) |
| I have frapsed a clip when me and my rogue beated a very good Priest/Warlock team in the beginning of season 4. It's from my point of view, so if anyone is interested to see what we did I can put it up somewhere, just message me. | |
  Vodkaershamy | Jul 12, 2008 - 11:54 AM (HideShow) |
| filefront? and give us a link would be nice me and my mate the mage are new with the mage/rogue combo getting better and better atleast 1600 is easy to get now but we got probs with priest/warlock atm:/ | |
| Raxxor | Jul 23, 2008 - 11:28 AM (HideShow) |
Here you are: http://www.vimeo.com/1394149 The quality fucked up though in Vimeo, the original quality was very good but somehow the fullscreen in vimeo is awful. Hope you like it, though. Raxxor | |
| Raxxor | Jul 23, 2008 - 3:32 PM (HideShow) |
| Hm, they removed the video it seems. I uploaded on youtube instead, or you can download it with better quality. Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPpJZVYEupg Download (very good quality): http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman01/mage-rogue_vs_priest-warlock.avi | |
| Zukias | Aug 25, 2008 - 12:18 PM (HideShow) |
| the only way you can really beat this combo is going for the lock and cc ing priest with a few stacks of winters chill on him | |
| Volvic | Aug 26, 2008 - 1:30 AM (HideShow) |
| you can also hope that the lock is a nub and wont dispell sheep :) otherwise Zukias is right | |
| Darkstar | Aug 26, 2008 - 2:10 PM (HideShow) |
| im happy to know that i have key binded devour magic, so priest will only have to use trinket on blind, while my felpuppy eats the poly's. gg mage/rogue! | |
| Aagroth | Sep 21, 2008 - 11:11 PM (HideShow) |
| i dotn think ive fought any really good combos of this going to 1800 then because we beat then 90% of the time on the way up =/ | |
| Limo | Oct 3, 2008 - 2:46 AM (HideShow) |
| from the priest/warlock strat, someone suggested that the priest and warlock stand on top of each other to avoid been CCed while his partner getting shatter combo'ed. how effective is it to burst any one of them without shatter combo? | |
| Fireshuriken | Oct 5, 2008 - 3:14 AM (HideShow) |
| REROLL! | |
| Knolan | Oct 9, 2008 - 4:56 AM (HideShow) |
| Correction to generic strat: ff the priest trinkets sheep you should cs once sheep is on DR, before the blind, not after. This allows you to work in an extra cs in addition to the second round of sheeps. However, if the team is good they will probably save spell lock and silence (if it's a disc/shadow priest setup) to buy healing windows inbetween your attempts to refresh cc (e.g. between sheeps, or to prevent you from cs'ing). In that case you may need to be more flexible about blinding/csing in the rotation (iceblock/cs can work since cs is off the gcd, but iceblock/sheep is likely to let the cast through). | |
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