| Swifted Burning Blade US-Vindication |
Druid/Rogue | VS. | Druid/Warrior |
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| Apr 4, 2008 - 3:35 PM (HideShow) | |
| Right... This is our hardest matchup for us we get no where near to killing druid, this is at 2.2k ratings. and is the only combo we have real problems with. | |
| Apr 4, 2008 - 10:05 PM (HideShow) | |
| Same, but that's mostly due to the fact that we always seem to get gnome warriors on blade's edge and no other kind of druid/warrior. THAT is balls. | |
| Apr 5, 2008 - 5:25 PM (HideShow) | |
| Sticking to a druid w/ a warrior intercepting/hamstringing is just suicide for Druid/Rogue. We (me and my normal partner, not the friend I'm trying to get 2k for), found that by aggressive offensive cycloning on both the warrior and the druid, coupled with bursting whoever is the easiest to burst at the time, we could get them both low and paniced and find a kill (usually on the druid). This requires things like, druid rooting and dpsing the warrior while the rogue locks down the druid, then when the druid starts stacking lifeblooms on the warr, cyclone-starfire-cyclone combo the warr (cyclone > lifeblooms). Then, cyclone/bash the druid as the rogue swaps to bleed rushing the warr, then he SSteps back to the druid for more lockdown. Rinse, repeat, profit. | |
| Apr 9, 2008 - 11:30 AM (HideShow) | |
| don't forget about sleeps on the druid when he is in bear or cat just be looking for him to charge them if he is in bear | |
| Apr 11, 2008 - 11:50 PM (HideShow) | |
| with the way mace stun works, this strat will never work. | |
| Apr 16, 2008 - 2:16 AM (HideShow) | |
| 80% to warrior druid win. 20% druid makes mistake and i can stun lock him. 90% my team loses are warrior+healer. I hate warrior :S | |
| Apr 19, 2008 - 2:09 AM (HideShow) | |
| what if your rogues mutilate?, still chase druid? | |
| Apr 21, 2008 - 12:46 PM (HideShow) | |
| Sonny posted a movie somewhere on WCM if a 45min game he had vs a merciless gladiator warrior/druid. | |
| Apr 25, 2008 - 3:59 AM (HideShow) | |
| every charge ruins our strat to kill the warrior its just to hard unbeateble i think (bad english -.-) | |
| Apr 25, 2008 - 4:03 AM (HideShow) | |
| edit: kill druid NOT warrior sry... | |
| May 21, 2008 - 11:27 AM (HideShow) | |
| if your rogue's mutilate you should definitely still target the druid. I sometimes prefer being mutilate for this fight...all it takes it one kidney shot in caster with your energy up...2 mutilates (including a cold blood one) and some added dps from your druid and NO druid, no matter how good, will survive. 41/20 certainly helps for this fight...but your fine as 49/0/12 as well. | |
| May 26, 2008 - 9:47 AM (HideShow) | |
| May 26, 2008 - 9:55 AM (HideShow) | |
| What me and my partner tries to do is at the start of a game look around for thier druid for a min or so, if we cant find thier druid by this time the rogue opens on the warrior with garrote + shiv and kite the warrior with bleeds this forces the druid to pop out before I have to, as soon as thier druid pops out I cyclone thier warrior straight away and we both stay up close to thier druid stopping him feral charging away, while staying close its my job to try stop thier warrior getting an intercept on my rogue otherwise thier druid can get away, this way we are putting way more pressure on thier druid so he is using alot more mana than me so we usually win the mana fight also, its also good for your rogue to tell you once his KS is about to run out so then you (the druid) can bash im pretty sure bash and KS dont share DR which means this is deadly combo if you can catch thier druid in caster form. | |
| Jun 9, 2008 - 6:17 PM (HideShow) | |
| all this stuff about separating the druid and the warrior only works if the druid runs away from his warrior when it is CC'd | |
| Jun 25, 2008 - 6:40 PM (HideShow) | |
| Quick Question: We just played Sony/Sodah and felt like we were doing pretty well. My druids mana pool was at 65% when Sodah's was at 30% and neither one had use their innervate. Sony was on my druid and I was on Sodah. However, halfway through Sony switched to me and the snares made it really hard for me to stay on Sodah, even while spamming Shiv/deadly throw/Shs. I told my druid he has to help out a little keeping the druid close when the warrior sits on me, but I got the impression from him that cc'ing the warrior/healing me AND stopping the druid from running away was too much. Any advice for him? Thanks much | |
| Jun 30, 2008 - 5:49 AM (HideShow) | |
| I know I'm not much to reply here, but I'd like to give my personal insight.. Me and my partner, resto druid met a few full s3 warrior/druid teams this week after s4 started. We are heavily outgeared compared to those with full s3, however I think we overcame all of those druid/warrior setups except for one where the druid was dreamstate. I had myself on the druid, my partner was healing me and cycloning warrior, we timed the cooldowns so we could get a final burst on the druid when he was pretty low on health.. All of those games sure had some tight situations but that might even be due to major gear disadvantages (I am in s1/s2's mostly, so is my partner). Overall I wouldn't consider this setup the hardest one for rogue/druid, I might think otherwise after playing this setup for longer, though. | |
| Jul 25, 2008 - 6:02 PM (HideShow) | |
| Having the same problem (on my druid - with a rogue). Sure I "could" cc the warrior for most of the match - cyclone, fc, root - but the problem is that most druids will just sit right next to the warrior - so outside of the few seconds when I have cyclone on him, the warrior is free to bash away at my rogue. Seperating them is a pretty difficult task as a warrior can either intercept to my rogue or intervene to his druid... any advice? | |
| Jul 28, 2008 - 1:37 PM (HideShow) | |
| i'm planning to post a full guide on Druid/Rogue vs Druid Warrior somewhere in the Ask a Gladiator forums if anyone's still interested in this strategy or is still having troubles. | |
| Aug 6, 2008 - 11:26 AM (HideShow) | |
| YEs plz do. just dropped from 1778 to 1710 meeting 90% Warr/Droo. *insert EMOCRY here* | |
| Aug 10, 2008 - 8:13 PM (HideShow) | |
| Against warrior druid I find rooting the warrior to DR THEN cyclone once to be most effective, during this time you must be helping dps no matter what or their druid simply wont go down (atleast not a good druid). Always be ready for the warrior to charge after the cyclone, you should be ready to cyclone their druid, let your rogue recover from mace stun/stun, cyclone the warrior, and try your best to get the druid down! Of course this doesn't always work, but rinse and repeat. When I was playing druid warrior I was full boomkin 48/0/13 in resto gear. The druid still took time to get down. It is extremely important to help you're rogue out on dps! | |
| Aug 16, 2008 - 12:38 AM (HideShow) | |
| I'm getting back into this team after playing it in the 1900's last season before my partner (Lock and Druid on same account) transferred, and war / druid has always been the roughest match, our current problem is not keeping warrior off me, my current partner can completely lock him down for all but maybe 5 seconds every now and then, but the druid I'm on will run me around the arena as I spam shiv, and then loop back to his warrior whenever he gets around 60%, and then the warrior will get an intercept on me. Not a big deal, shiv -> gouge -> run back after druid, my partner locks him down and I just have hamstring on me, but that 9 seconds is all it takes for the druid to run oor, drink, and shadowmeld. My druid's mp5 makes up for his mana usage, and their druid gets to drink, the fights have gone on for 20-25 minutes, at which point I normally just get on war out of frustration... Seems like if they don't make a rather large mistake we can only stalemate... | |
| Aug 27, 2008 - 7:26 PM (HideShow) | |
| It is said that this game is 20% luck. You will need all 20% to beat this combo | |
| Aug 29, 2008 - 4:30 AM (HideShow) | |
| The Warrior WILL come for you (as a Rogue) so you need to get on the Druid when ever you can. First have your Druid get the other Druid out of stealth by dots/wraths/roots, THE SECOND the Druid pops out you have to get on him, don't let him heal the Warrior up. The Warrior should be coming for you now, its your Druids job to keep the Warrior off you. If he doesn't you have no chance unless your Druid is Restokin, If their Warrior does keep you off his Druid then your best chance is to keep switching between the Warrior and the Druid. Make sure you and your Druid are Dpsing the same target, when dpsing the warrior keep an eye on the Druid, if he gets near then Cyclone the Warrior ASAP so heals wont get him up, when hes in Cyclone switch to the Druid to make him either run away or heal both people. If he runs keep the Dps up on the Warrior and finish him off, if the Druid stays this is tougher but usually ill put my Druid on the Warrior and myself on the Druid, to keep dps on both. If your Druid can keep the Warrior off of you then this is a very easy fight. You can stay on Druid and your Druid should be able to keep enough pressure on the Warrior for the Druid to have to heal both. Even though this is what I use it only works about 30-40% of the time and your Druid should do about 20% of the damage if resto and 35% as restokin. | |
| Sep 6, 2008 - 7:52 PM (HideShow) | |
| Stick to the druid and make sure you stick to the damn druid, Pray to god that RnG isn't against you and break this team. Blinding warrior at the right time is pretty crucial. It is possible to kick the utter crap out of a druid if they trink at the wrong time, and you blind em. Garrote followed by 5cp kidney and flurry of mongoose procs and hemos will drop target nicely. | |
| Sep 23, 2008 - 6:48 AM (HideShow) | |
| Is it worth trinking the warriors macestuns or just leave it for a critical cyclone when their druid is uber low health? | |
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