Strategies

Druid/Hunter (Megatf)

Author

Megatf
Archimonde
US-Stormstrike

Druid/Hunter

VS.

Druid/Rogue

Strengths:
  • When specc'd Mutilate Poison Resist and great damage
  • When specc'd Shadowstep they have more control
  • Cyclone, Roots, and Blind
  • Coordinated CC's with strong burst can take people down. (Not me or Chances)
  • Great heals
Weaknesses:
  • Cooldown Reliant
  • Abolish Poison
  • Frost Trap
Who to keep pet on:
Druid

Possible Rogue Talent Spec's (Standard Spec's):
Rogues have Several Viable Builds

Possible Druid Talent Spec's (Standard Spec's):
Insect Swarm
Deep Resto + Feral Charge + Nature's Grasp

The strategy for this fight isn't terribly difficult, but it involves your ability to kite, keep Viper's up on the Druid and stop him from drinking by keeping him in combat but also putting TONS of pressure on his Rogue.

We used to have a lot of difficulty with this combo at first, again I used to have this hardcore issue with tunnel visioning on a healer. Having played with Chances, Wojo, and Vorrent I know now how much harder I was making it on myself on certain combo's.

What's the best way to OOM a healer aside from Viper Sting? Force him to heal.

This entire fight you should always have a Frost Trap centered around who the Rogue is going for which nearly 100% of the time it will be you unless they are attempting a burst on your Druid.

Use this to your advantage, keep a Frost Trap on the ground and with Abolish Poison you should be able to kite the Rogue all over the Frost Trap, and when your Druid can he should be putting a Entangling Roots on the Rogue to give you time to just unload and Cycloning when the Rogue is on you and he can't Abolish Crippling (Mutilate is such a pain).

By putting tons of pressure on that Rogue the Druid is forced to pop out and cast Lifeblooms using precious 1.5 second global cooldowns to keep that Rogue up, when this happens get Viper Sting on that Druid as soon as possible. By keeping tons of pressure on the Rogue the Druid has less chances to drink, and when he does the Rogue is usually attempting to LOS or stun lock you while the enemy Druid Roots/Cyclones your pet. (It should resist a few times because you all have 140 Nature Resist on your pet riiiiight??)

If you know you can survive the Rogue for a bit, have your Druid keep the enemy Druid in combat, 2 rank 1 Moonfires while your pet is catching up. If your Druid can't chase him because he has to stay with you then no biggie, you and your Druid have 10x more opportunities to drink than them with Cyclone, Roots, Frost Trap. The enemy Druid getting a tick or two off will not be game breaking.

Eventually you will wear down the Druid's mana and he'll need to drink while you and your Druid are ready to burst the Rogue down. That's when you take your opportunity and unload the DPS. Your Druid has to be ready to Cyclone, if that Rogue is below 20% and you see that enemy Druid coming after you, your Druid needs to Cyclone + Feral Charge Bash that enemy Druid immediately, he should be OOM or nearly OOM anyway.

This combo can be ridiculously hard in the first minute when played extremely offensively, this strategy involves bursting your Druid down from 100% to 0.

Comments:

DarkbearMar 30, 2008 - 9:01 AM (HideShow)
Ive been having ALOT of trouble keeping my hunter free to kite...


Seems like whenever i put an abolish on and he starts to kite he will maybe get 3s of DPS before he gets ShSed and locked down with kidney shot.... eventually i end up OOM(druid alt) from healing and keeping abolish up =/

Is this just his problem or is there something else i can do other than root the rogue when i can so he can burst?


Great guide tho :)
AkagarApr 5, 2008 - 3:01 AM (HideShow)
Dreamstate is also a possible Druid spec.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0tjMzbIsMuZZVMIxcq
RontulJun 2, 2008 - 8:57 PM (HideShow)
that strat seems to be the legit way to go... but ive never seen it done on a video of any kind.. only problem is if ur worrieed about ooming a druid and bursting a rogue were is all the mana coming from eventually u ( hunter ) should run outta mana before the druid.. im just not sure how this works considering its almost impossible to CC both rogue and druid and have enough time to get a decent amout of drinks in
RontulJun 2, 2008 - 8:59 PM (HideShow)
i did basicly what this strat said and there druid had 100% mana at the very end of the fight.. didnt let him drink was focused on rogue burning him to 20% about 7 times
ToneboneJun 4, 2008 - 2:26 AM (HideShow)
Rontul... if you have two one handers with 30 int on both... with aspect of viper u shouldnt go oom... and even if u get remotely close.. jst have ur druid CC the rogue and FD DRink
PhoxyJul 23, 2008 - 10:16 PM (HideShow)
This strat will not work agaisnt a dreamstate druid/rogue team, simply because the DS druid will never run out of mana, and a hunter can't put out enough DPS on a rogue even with his druid helping with root/cyclone.
AxxJul 27, 2008 - 9:46 PM (HideShow)
If anyone finds a sure fire way to beat a ShS rogue and DS druid I will GIVE YOU MONEY! Unless it involves speccing BM. :P

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