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Warlords of Draenor Beta Patch Notes Update July 11

Official Blizzard Quote:

Secondary Stat Attunements
All specializations now receive New passive abilities granting a 5% bonus to specific secondary stat bonuses received from all sources. This bonus is granted through new passive abilities or additional effects added to existing passive abilities. equipped items have been added for all specializations.

Ability Pruning and Consolidation
Druid
  • Bear Hug has been removed.
  • Hibernate has been removed.
  • Maim is now available only to Feral Druids.
  • Nature’s Grasp has been removed.
Hunter
  • Concussive Barrage has been removed.
  • Scare Beast has been removed. now has a 6-second duration in PvP (down from 8 seconds).
  • Widow Venom has been removed.
Mage
  • Cone of Cold’s cooldown has been increased to 12 seconds (up from 10 seconds).
  • Deep Freeze is now available only to Frost Mages.
  • Deep Freeze can now be broken by damage (same amount as Frost Nova).
  • Dragon’s Breath now replaces Cone of Cold for Fire Mages and the disoriented effect now shares Diminishing Returns with all other Mesmerize effects.
  • Frost Nova’s cooldown has been increased to 30 seconds (up from 25 seconds).
Monk
  • Adaptation has been removed.
Shaman
  • Bind Elemental has been removed.
  • Frostbrand Weapon has been removed.
Warlock
  • Curse of Exhaustion has been removed.
  • Demonic Breath has been removed.
  • Howl of Terror is now a Level-30 talent, replacing Demonic Breath.

Instant Cast Heals
Priest
  • Divine Star now has a 1.5-second cast time (up from instant cast), but can be cast while moving.

Tank Vengeance, Resolve, and PvP
Tanks in PvP
Finally, we have the topic of tanks in PvP. Apart from a few niche cases like flag carrying; tanks have been intentionally non-viable in serious PvP for several expansions now. The reason for this was simple: fighting against tanks was very frustrating, not fun. They were near-invincible, had numerous CC abilities (primary stuns), but did little enough damage to not be able to kill you (in most cases, anyway). By excluding them from PvP, we preserved the enjoyment of the rest of the playerbase. However, that has the obvious downside that people who prefer to play tanks are excluded from doing so in PvP.

We decided that we could do better, and satisfy everyone involved. Our other changes to tanks in Warlords of Draenor got us most of the way there. Tanks’ damage will already be tuned to be somewhat weaker than damage dealers, but not trivial. We’ve already removed the additional CC that they had during the CC Disarmament and Ability Pruning. All that remains that makes them frustrating to fight against is their invincibility. So, we’re causing tanks to take increased damage in PvP, so that the net result is that they both deal and take somewhat less damage than damage dealers.
  • Tanks now take 25% additional damage while engaged in PvP combat.

Self-Sustainability
Shaman
  • Elemental Focus now also triggers any time the Shaman lands a killing blow.
  • Healing Surge now heals for 100% more when cast on self for Elemental Shaman.

Class Changes
Druid
Ability Pruning
  • Barkskin is now available to Balance, Guardian, and Restoration Druids, and no longer provides pushback protection, but its base cooldown has been reduced to 30 seconds.

Ability Consolidation and Refinement
  • Revive’s mana cost has been reduced by 87%.

Details of changes to Balance:
  • Incarnation: Chosen of Elune now increases spell damage by 15% while active (was a 25% increase to Arcane and Nature damage, but only while Eclipse is active).
  • Euphoria has been removed. A new level-100 talent with the same name has been added.
  • Insect Swarm has been redesigned and renamed Stellar Flare.
  • Stellar Flare is a powerful spell benefitting from both Lunar and Solar Eclipse, dealing the most damage when they are equal. Burns the target for Spellstorm damage and cause additional damage over 15 seconds. The ability has a cast time of 1.5 seconds.

Hunter
Ability Pruning
  • Serpent Sting now causes Multi-Shot and Arcane Shot to also apply a Serpent Sting poison dealing instant and periodic damage. Each time it deals damage, the Hunter receives 3 Focus; this effect cannot occur more than once every 3 seconds.

Marksmanship Changes
One of our new secondary stats is Multistrike, which is strikingly similar to Wild Quiver for Marksmanship Hunters. In order to solve this, we replaced Wild Quiver with a new Mastery: Sniper Training. Marksmanship Hunters that favored Mastery before will want to favor Multistrike for a similar feel. For their new Mastery, we wanted to add some depth to their moment-to-moment gameplay, and compliment Critical Strike. In order to do that, we brought back the concept of Sniper Training.

Finally, we added an interaction between Careful Aim and Rapid Fire (and indirectly Aimed Shot through a Draenor Perk), so as to add a bit more depth to their gameplay.
  • Mastery: Wild Quiver has been removed.
  • Sniper Training is a new Mastery for Marksmanship Hunters, replacing Wild Quiver.
  • Sniper Training activates when the Hunter stands still for 3 seconds, giving them the Sniper Training effect for 6 seconds, increasing damage, shot range, and critical strike damage by 4% (increased by Mastery).

Survival Changes
Apart from rotational changes through Ability Pruning, changes for Survival Hunters mostly center on Lock and Load. We changed how Lock and Load is triggered to increase the value of Multistrike, provide gameplay depth and the ability to pool damage more.
  • Black Arrow now deals 60% more damage, inflicts Shadow damage every 3 seconds (up from every 2 seconds), has a duration of 18 seconds (down from 20 seconds), and triggers Lock and Load on Multistrike hits.
  • Explosive Shot now costs 15 Focus (down from 25 Focus).
  • Lock and Load effects have been incorporated into Black Arrow and has been redesigned.
  • Lock and Load now causes the next Explosive Shot to not trigger its cooldown, but no longer causes it to be free or reset the ability's current cooldown. This effect can stack up to 5 times.

Mage
Ability Consolidation and Refinement
  • Ice Floes no longer has a restriction on base cast or channel times for spells (formerly only worked on spells with a base cast or channel time of less than 4 seconds).

Frost Changes
Ice Lance’s non-frozen damage was doubled to make up for no longer having access to Fire Blast and reducing redundancy in the process. We also changed Brain Freeze effect, in order to give Frost mages another cast-time spell in their rotation.
  • The Brain Freeze effect now increases Frostfire Bolt damage by 25%, and can now stack up to 2 times instead of making Frostfire Bolt instant. It also no longer triggers from the Bomb Talents, and instead has a 10% chance to trigger from Frostbolt casts. Each Multistrike of Frostbolt increases that cast's chance by an additional 45%. (Total of 100% on double-Multistrikes).
  • Ice Lance’s base damage has been increased by 100%, but its damage multiplier against frozen targets has been reduced by 50%.

Monk
Ability Pruning
  • Stance of the Sturdy Ox now replaces Stance of the Fierce Tiger for Brewmaster Monks.

Ability Consolidation and Refinement
  • Resuscitate’s mana cost has been reduced by 80%.
  • Spinning Crane Kick now always generates 1 Chi, and no longer reduces movement speed.
  • Paralysis now always lasts 60 seconds against creatures, regardless of facing.
  • Zen Sphere no longer has a target limit.

Mistweaver Changes

All abilities available to Mistweavers now have a 1.5-second global cooldown (up from 1 second).
  • Stance of the Fierce Tiger now reduces the global cooldown of the Mistweaver Monk’s abilities by 0.5 seconds.
  • Stance of the Sturdy Ox now reduces the global cooldown of the Mistweaver Monk’s abilities by 0.5 seconds.
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent causes Haste to reduce global cooldown of the Monk’s abilities.
Focus and Harmony is a new passive ability for Mistweaver Monks, causing Haste to reduce the global cooldown, and causes Attack Power to be equal to 100% of Spell Power.
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent no longer provides this Spell Power to Attack Power Conversion.
Jade Mist is a new passive ability for Mistweaver Monks, causing them to gain 5% more of the Multistrike stat from all sources, and also causes Renewing Mist and Rising Sun Kick to have a chance equal to Multistrike chance to not go on cooldown when used. This effect cannot trigger on the next Renewing Mist or Rising Sun Kick.

Stance of the Spirited Crane is a new ability for Mistweaver Monks, which replaces Stance of the Fierce Tiger, and provides the following effects.
  • The Monk's Attack Power is equal to 100% of their Spell Power, and they no longer benefit from other sources of Attack Power.
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent no longer provides this benefit.
  • The Monk gains Eminence, causing all damage dealt to also heal nearby allies.
  • Eminence now causes a nearby target to be healed for 35% of all damage caused by the Monk and includes auto attacks.
  • Stance of the Wise Serpent no longer provides this benefit.
  • Haste reduces the global cooldown of the Monk’s abilities.

Paladin
Ability Streamlining and Refinement
  • Redemption’s mana cost has been reduced by 95%.


Priest
Ability Pruning
  • Spirit Shell is now a level-75 talent, replacing Divine Insight for Discipline Priests. has been removed.

Holy Changes
  • Divine Providence is a new passive ability for Holy Priests.
  • Divine Providence increases the amount of the Multistrike stat gains from all sources by 5%, and increases the damage and healing of Multistrikes by 25%.
  • Power Word: Shield may now critically strike or Multistrike.
  • Divine Aegis no longer grants Power Word: Shield a chance to critically strike.

Talent Revisions
  • Shadow: This effect is now named Shadowy Insight.


Rogue
Subtlety Changes
Honor Among Thieves is an extremely powerful ability, but has the downside that it adds significant disparity between character power while soloing and while in a group. We made this change to bring up the soloing Subtlety Rogue, without having a significant impact on their performance while in a group. The passive ability Sinister Calling also received significant change to better balance scaling rates, the value of secondary stats, improve Multistrike for them, and add rotational depth. The power of their Sinister Calling passive ability has also been reduced, in order to better balance the scaling rates and value of secondary stats for Subtlety.
  • Sinister Calling now increases Agility by 15% (down from 30%), and the amount of Multistrike bonus received from all sources by 5% (in order to act as Subtlety’s Secondary Stat Attunement). And finally, when the rogue Multistrikes with Backstab or Ambush, they also twist the blade, causing all Bleed effects to instantly tick an additional time.

Shaman
Ability Consolidation and Refinement
  • Ancestral Spirit’s mana cost has been reduced by 95%.

Elemental Overload and Elemental Discharge
One of the new secondary stats Multistrike, functions very similarly to Elemental Overload. We wanted to keep Mastery and Multistrike feeling distinct, but also know how iconic and important Elemental Overload is for Elemental Shaman. So, we decided to merge the two together with Multistrike driving Elemental Overload, and give the Elemental specialization a new Mastery. For the new Mastery, we wanted to strengthen the Elemental Shaman’s connection to earth energies, and added damage that continues while the Shaman is moving. The summary of all this is that if you liked Mastery before, favor Multistrike instead for the same effect. Or try out the new Mastery: Molten Earth.
  • Elemental Overload is now a regular passive ability and is no longer increased by Mastery. It grants 35% increased Multistrike damage and healing, and an additional 20% to Multistrike chance. It also increases the amount of the Multistrike stat gains from all sources by 5%, serving as Elemental’s Secondary Stat attunement.
  • Molten Earth is a new Mastery for Elemental Shaman.
  • Molten Earth causes the Shaman’s damaging spells to incite the earth around to come to their aid for 6 seconds, repeatedly dealing Fire damage to their most recently attacked target.

Warlock
Ability Pruning
  • Fel Flame has been removed.

Ability Consolidation and Refinement
  • Grimoire of Supremacy pets now generates 20% more Demonic Fury.

Affliction Changes
For Affliction, we're happy with their rotation. But, Drain Soul was causing them to be too strong in situations where they had a steady supply of small creatures to kill. We reduced the effectiveness of its on-kill effect in order to solve this. Additionally, Soul Swap was changed to cost 1 Soul Shard to push it into its intended role of being a more expensive but faster method of applying your periodic damage effects, and better balance it against Haunt.
  • Soul Swap now costs 1 Soul Shard (up from none).
  • Soulburn: Soul Swap costs a total of 2 Soul Shards (up from 1).

Movement Abilities
We've reduced the ability for ranged damage dealers to deal damage while moving in Warlords. Kil'jaeden's Cunning became a problematic talent because its mobility made Warlocks much stronger compared to other casters. We redesigned how the ability works to be more powerful in bursts instead of always affecting only some spells. After experimenting with the removal of Fel Flame in an earlier build, we brought the ability back, but reduced its effectiveness.
  • Kil’jaeden’s Cunning has been redesigned. Kil'jaeden's Cunning calls upon the cunning of Kil'jaeden to permit movement while casting Warlock spells. This spell may be cast while casting other spells and lasts 8 seconds with a 1-minute cooldown.
  • Fel Flame now generates 5 Demonic Fury (down from 15), and only generates Burning Embers on critical strikes. was removed.

Warrior
Arms Changes
  • Battle Stance for Arms Warriors now generates 140% more Rage from auto-attacks and Critical Strikes now generate double Rage.
  • Execute for Arms Warriors now costs 10 Rage, and consumes up to 40 additional Rage to deal additional damage.
  • Overpower has been removed. Arms Warriors should now use Rend and Whirlwind instead.
  • Rend is a new ability for Arms Warriors.
  • Rend causes bleed damage over 18 seconds, and a final burst of bleed damage when the effect expires.
  • Slam has been removed. Arms Warriors should now use Rend and Whirlwind instead.
  • Sweeping Strikes now costs 10 Rage (down from 30 Rage).

Talent Changes
A few Warrior talents also were in need of revision. First, Second Wind was problematic; it was sometimes too weak, and sometimes too strong. We chose to change it from a passive health regeneration effect to the new Leech effect, so that low-health Warriors have to maintain combat in order to benefit, instead of kiting, hiding, or otherwise playing defensively. Enraged Regeneration was changed to account for the removal of Enrage from Arms.

The level-45 talent row was removed for crowd-control disarmament reasons, and also wanted to allow you to choose more rotational complexity through talents. We replaced the row with new talents, many of which are specialization-specific, giving you a variety of playstyle choices for your Warrior.

For the level-60 and level-90 Talent rows, certain combinations were proving problematic. We decided that Stormbolt would better compete with Shockwave and Dragon Roar, and that Bladestorm would better compete with Avatar and Bloodbath, so swapped Stormbolt and Bladestorm positions. We also adjusted the effects of a few talents in order to make them more competitive with the talents on their row.
  • Enraged Regeneration now heals for 100% more but the amount healed is no longer increased by being Enraged.
  • Staggering Shout has been removed and replaced with 3 new talents that vary by specialization.
  • Arms: Taste for Blood: Each time Rend deals damage, gain 3 Rage.
  • Fury: Furious Strikes: Wild Strike costs 10 less Rage.
  • Protection: Heavy Repercussions: Shield Slam deals 50% additional damage while Shield Block is active.
  • Piercing Howl has been removed and replaced with a new talent, Sudden Death.
  • Sudden Death causes auto-attack hits to have a 10% chance to make the next Execute free and useable on any target, regardless of health level.
  • Disrupting Shout has been removed and replaced with 3 new talents that vary by specialization.
  • Arms: Slam: Slam an opponent, causing 100% weapon damage. Each consecutive use of Slam increases the damage dealt by 50% and Rage cost by 100%.
  • Fury: Unquenchable Thirst: Bloodthirst no longer has a cooldown.
  • Protection: Unyielding Strikes: Devastate reduces the cost of Heroic Strike by 6 Rage for 6 seconds, stacking up to 5 times. Once this effect reaches 5 applications, its duration will no longer refresh.

Fury Changes
Fury Warriors received a few additional changes. In particular, Heroic Strike has been removed for Fury Warriors, and modified Wild Strike to fill the role of quick excess Rage dump. We also made a revision to the Critical Strike chance of Bloodthirst to make them less crit-dependant. A new glyph has been added which gives Fury Warriors a choice for a notably different playstyle. Auto attack damage had become too high, so we also moved some damage from that into Execute (which has been changed to deal damage based on Weapon Damage, instead of just Attack Power). Plus, we've updated some to spell alerts to improve usability.
  • Bloodsurge’s effects have been merged into baseline Bloodthirst and no longer reduce Wild Strike’s global cooldown. Its spell alert has moved to the top slot instead of the left and right slots.
  • Bloodthirst now replaces Heroic Strike for Fury Warriors.
  • Wild Strike now has a 0.5 second baseline global cooldown.

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#1 DjBenx

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:07 PM

Warrior was boring, now they have what, 3 buttons?

Rend, Mortal Strike and Colossus Smash?

#2 Sulre

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:28 PM

View PostDjBenx, on 12 July 2014 - 03:07 PM, said:

Warrior was boring, now they have what, 3 buttons?

Rend, Mortal Strike and Colossus Smash?

Now they have Mortal Strike, Overpower, Colossus Smash and Slam. Not much diffrence.

#3 dominera

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:30 PM

Official Blizzard Quote:

Deep Freeze can now be broken by damage (same amount as Frost Nova).

Spontaneously I feel like this is a bad change. I have not played this game for some time and I dont know how the Beta is, so even if I feel like this is a shitty change on its own, it could be a good change in conjunction with all the other changes - although I doubt that.

Official Blizzard Quote:

Ice Lance’s damage multiplier against frozen targets has been reduced by 50%.

This is probably a good change seeing you can oneshot ppl with your FoF proccs  (more or less). But then again, being able to oneshot ppl on your own was probably the reason why I started playing mage ;)

#4 Lolflay

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:48 PM

Their persistence with the Fel Flame removal is annoying, Warlocks will basically have nothing to cast if they get locked.

Mages can use Arcane/Fire schools, Shadowpriests can use Mind Spike, Druids have both Arcane and Nature, etc. Affliction Warlock will literally stand like a retard for a few seconds with Fel Flame gone.

View Postdominera, on 12 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

This is probably a good change seeing you can oneshot ppl with your FoF proccs  (more or less). But then again, being able to oneshot ppl on your own was probably the reason why I started playing mage ;)

Actually Mages are fucking horrible on beta, so it's a nerf.

And I'm actually starting to get annoyed to see you post knowing that you've bought your s14 Glad. Shut up for the sake of community.

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[13:49:14] Creed: u have 20min to find a healer, going for a jog
[13:49:53] Creed: nothing like running through the bush being chased by wild animals to get a proper workout
[13:50:01] Creed: you europeans and ur silly gyms

#5 Bluckstack

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 05:06 PM

View PostLolflay, on 12 July 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

Their persistence with the Fel Flame removal is annoying, Warlocks will basically have nothing to cast if they get locked.

Mages can use Arcane/Fire schools, Shadowpriests can use Mind Spike, Druids have both Arcane and Nature, etc. Affliction Warlock will literally stand like a retard for a few seconds with Fel Flame gone.

I completely agree with it, i dont know whats the problem about warlocks having more than 1 school to actually do something when you get locked

#6 dominera

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:01 PM

View PostLolflay, on 12 July 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

And I'm actually starting to get annoyed to see you post knowing that you've bought your s14 Glad. Shut up for the sake of community.

Okay hotshot, Im starting to get really pissed off by you. You dont know anything, so you should just shut the fuck up.

Secondly, if anyone is poisoning this community its you. I once remeber sending u a PM where I asked for some advice from you when I wanted to improve my game. You just laughed at me in some stupid way which made me think you were just a big douchebag.

But now I see that I was wrong. Sure, you are a huge fucking douche. But thats not why you didnt reply to me, the reason to why you didnt reply to me was that you actually dont know shit about this game anymore. The fact that you are still clinging on to this site shows me that you dont have anything in life that you values, except for your titles in a game thats (using your own words) no one cares about seeing everyone left the party. So why are you still here? Cant find the afterparty?

Just what I thought. Another loser that cant accept people catching up with you. Sorry to break it to you, asshole, but it was 7 years since S1 was. Wake up.

You wanna help the community? Delete your account, clean your webhistory and never, EVER come to this site again. Capish?

#7 Dizzeeyo

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:23 PM

View Postdominera, on 12 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Official Blizzard Quote:

Ice Lance’s damage multiplier against frozen targets has been reduced by 50%.

This is probably a good change seeing you can oneshot ppl with your FoF proccs  (more or less). But then again, being able to oneshot ppl on your own was probably the reason why I started playing mage ;)
doubling icelance damage normally and halving its damage vs frozen targets gives it exactly the same damage vs frozen targets :)

mages are not oneshotting anyone on beta, the class is a joke and probably the worst dps caster in skirmish arena atm :)

View Postdominera, on 12 July 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

Okay hotshot, Im starting to get really pissed off by you. You dont know anything, so you should just shut the fuck up.
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You wanna help the community? Delete your account, clean your webhistory and never, EVER come to this site again. Capish?

lol you bought gladiator :)

exDee :)

View PostPouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

View PostJontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

#8 Lolflay

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:35 PM

View PostBluckstack, on 12 July 2014 - 05:06 PM, said:

I completely agree with it, i dont know whats the problem about warlocks having more than 1 school to actually do something when you get locked

Indeed, if their concern is that the spell is instant, just make it 1.5 sec cast or simply return fucking Searing Pain. Hell, you can't even Wand during lockouts anymore because that's removed as well. Stupid as fuck.

View Postdominera, on 12 July 2014 - 07:01 PM, said:

Okay hotshot, Im starting to get really pissed off by you. You dont know anything, so you should just shut the fuck up.

Secondly, if anyone is poisoning this community its you. I once remeber sending u a PM where I asked for some advice from you when I wanted to improve my game. You just laughed at me in some stupid way which made me think you were just a big douchebag.

But now I see that I was wrong. Sure, you are a huge fucking douche. But thats not why you didnt reply to me, the reason to why you didnt reply to me was that you actually dont know shit about this game anymore. The fact that you are still clinging on to this site shows me that you dont have anything in life that you values, except for your titles in a game thats (using your own words) no one cares about seeing everyone left the party. So why are you still here? Cant find the afterparty?

Just what I thought. Another loser that cant accept people catching up with you. Sorry to break it to you, asshole, but it was 7 years since S1 was. Wake up.

You wanna help the community? Delete your account, clean your webhistory and never, EVER come to this site again. Capish?

I gave you a decent reply. I told you that I considered myself a shit player even when I was 2.8/2.9, and that that feeling kept me playing to get better ( also I was kind of annoyed that shitloads of worse players than myself had r1 titles, but I never played the political or ladder system well enough to force myself into shares/etc ). I told you that higher rated players are not better by much than the lower rated players, in the sense that they simply DPS/heal better, which is in fact true. Positioning is also the part of the equation. There's no magical way to instantly get from 2k to 2.5k over night, unless you're abusing the system, playing something absolutely braindead ( ret hunter rogue from s11 comes in mind ), or getting a pilot.

Which brings me to my point - you were 2k rated on 14th January 2014, and season ended on February 18th 2014 ( which I know because that way the day I renewed after a lengthy break period of the game ) - people don't magically get 500-600 additional rating when they're in place of a 2k player struggling to maintain a 50% winrate, unless they're returning players that simply need some time to readjust ( which you weren't ). I wouldn't have even called you out anywhere on this forum, had you not continued to pretend like you've attained it yourself and even gave monologues about your experience. I remember someone calling you out for buying a pilot for your character, which is not exactly coincidental to your namechange that occurred just as titles got in.

As for you trying to deflect by calling me things, I love seeing jealousy, and I especially love seeing someone so desperately trying to deflect the truth.

Done derailing this thread though, sorry to mods.

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[13:49:14] Creed: u have 20min to find a healer, going for a jog
[13:49:53] Creed: nothing like running through the bush being chased by wild animals to get a proper workout
[13:50:01] Creed: you europeans and ur silly gyms

#9 dominera

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:46 PM

View PostLolflay, on 12 July 2014 - 07:35 PM, said:

Indeed, if their concern is that the spell is instant, just make it 1.5 sec cast or simply return fucking Searing Pain. Hell, you can't even Wand during lockouts anymore because that's removed as well. Stupid as fuck.



I gave you a decent reply. I told you that I considered myself a shit player even when I was 2.8/2.9, and that that feeling kept me playing to get better ( also I was kind of annoyed that shitloads of worse players than myself had r1 titles, but I never played the political or ladder system well enough to force myself into shares/etc ). I told you that higher rated players are not better by much than the lower rated players, in the sense that they simply DPS/heal better, which is in fact true. Positioning is also the part of the equation. There's no magical way to instantly get from 2k to 2.5k over night, unless you're abusing the system, playing something absolutely braindead ( ret hunter rogue from s11 comes in mind ), or getting a pilot.

Which brings me to my point - you were 2k rated on 14th January 2014, and season ended on February 18th 2014 ( which I know because that way the day I renewed after a lengthy break period of the game ) - people don't magically get 500-600 additional rating when they're in place of a 2k player struggling to maintain a 50% winrate, unless they're returning players that simply need some time to readjust ( which you weren't ). I wouldn't have even called you out anywhere on this forum, had you not continued to pretend like you've attained it yourself and even gave monologues about your experience. I remember someone calling you out for buying a pilot for your character, which is not exactly coincidental to your namechange that occurred just as titles got in.

As for you trying to deflect by calling me things, I love seeing jealousy.

Done derailing this thread though, sorry to mods.

No, it was not 600 points. I dont know how well your math is, but judging by your reply to my accusation proves me that i was right about you not having a life. Which, to my guess, is most likely cause you failed in school. So now that we have established that your math is terrible, let me help you with the numbers out. I was 2.250 rating, and I got 2.4+ when the season ended. As you probably know, S14 was the easiest season ever to reach glad, 2408 was the cut. So if you are to get glad any season, is it not the highest chance on the easiest one if you look at it statistically? I know numbers are not your deal, but Im sure you get the point...

Also, you did reply that AFTER you told me I was too late to the party (and some other crappy shit). Who the fuck says something like that? I actually spent some time on that PM, which indicates that I wanna improve myself, which I did. It may be a big surprise to you, but people can actually get better if they put their gut to it. Which you also can, having the mind for it that is...

And by the way, its not me who is going OT, its you. You wanna keep discussing? Send me a PM. Dont worry, I wont be as rude as you are with my reply.

#10 Sania

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 07:52 PM

Why did this turn into two mongs arguement thread?
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