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Blizzard posted the official explanation of how the arena and personal rating changes should be working since the patch. If you have any feedback on this system, please feel free to add it in our official feedback thread for Blizzard regarding these changes here:
http://www.arenajunk...ead.php?t=22780

Official Blizzard Quote:


There has been some confusion regarding the changes to Arena Team and Personal rating calculations in patch 2.4.2 for those players with 100% participation on their team so we’d like to clarify how the system works now.

The adjustment to a team’s personal rating can vary based on the average personal rating of the other team while team ratings will always adjust based directly on the team rating of the other team. If the average personal rating of the players queuing for a game is more than 150 points below the team’s rating, the team will be queued against an opponent matching or similar to the average personal rating. Adjustments to your personal rating are based on the ratings by which the opposing team was queued.

  • If the opposing team was queued based on their team rating, your personal rating will be adjusted based on their team rating.
  • If the opposing team was queued based on their average personal rating, your personal rating will be adjusted based on their average personal rating.

Example:


  • Team A has a rating of 1550. Team B has a rating of 1750.
  • Team A has an average personal rating of 1520 for the members participating in the match. Team B has an average personal rating of 1490 for the members participating in the match.
  • Team A wins. Team A’s team rating is adjusted based off of a win over Team B’s team rating of 1750.
  • All members of Team A have their personal ratings adjusted based off of a win over Team B’s average personal rating of 1490 but it will be a smaller gain when compared to the rating their team got.


This change promotes having teams compete against players who’s ratings statistically match up best against them. In turn this will help provide the most competitive environment possible in the Arena.
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#1 blackfoot

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 05:07 PM

At first I was really hating the way the system works, but it seems that when I team hop, it only takes about 10-15 games (at least at 1800's rating) to skyrocket the PR  back up to where it should be. A huge pain, but not impossible.
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#2 glacier

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 06:09 PM

I think its unfair to teams starting out, cause if u have a 2v2 with someone already at 2200 and they pick up a new player, or one that team hops. (which happens a lot) Then they end up playing teams with an average personal rating of 1850. 2 days ago I was playing on my warrior in the 1800-1900 brackets and more than 50% of the teams were full s2, and when we would win our team would go up like 20-25 points but our personal like 14-15 and when we lost our team rating would go down like 10 but our personal would go down by 14-15 so our personal just kept getting further from our team rating.

I think they should keep it so that you still play teams with the same team rating but if your personal rating is 150 below then you should not get points for the team. Also they should keep it so that you cannot leave a queue after it pops or else you'll lose points. This will still make win trading much more difficult. With as much as people jump around teams the personal rating doesnt really relate to skill pvp wise. I already felt the brackets were pretty evenly and fairly spread out before the change. I just got annoyed that noone would be on the opposite team 1 out of every 4 games. I guess I can give it some time though to see if it evens out with the new system.

#3 Gnomo

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 10:35 PM

Please let personal rating be saved on the team you leave and join back in!

#4 killtank

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 10:52 PM

Gnomo said:

Please let personal rating be saved on the team you leave and join back in!

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#5 VonLego

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 05:40 AM

How the hell can that crap help "provide the most competitive environment possible in the Arena."

I'm calling BS

#6 Tya

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 06:08 AM

Gnomo said:

Please let personal rating be saved on the team you leave and join back in!

This needs to happen.

#7 Adamecks

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 11:17 AM

How many people does blizzard actually expect to get gladiator this season? 6 world wide? With the new match making system after 1 night of legitiment playing with EVERYONE having the same PR to start (2100 team with everyone having 2100 pr for example) you can be out of the running for gladiator just because your PR is not within 100 of the teams rating. Thats a team who has been playing together for awhile with no one hoping can very well not get gladiator just because these obsurd rules.

So, team A who is 2100 with a 2100 average PR queues against team B with a 2000 rating but with an average PR of 1600. Team A wins and gets their 13-15 points, yet only gets 1-3 PR.

This whole matchmaking system is absolute foolishness. The ONLY changes that blizzard had to make to achieve their goals was:

-Reinstate the penalty for not taking popped Qs
-Make you get points based on your PR



Wintrading and point selling - fixed.

I'd like to meet the moron who thought this new matchmaking system was the way to fix everything.

#8 Artemai

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 12:45 PM

Adamecks said:

How many people does blizzard actually expect to get gladiator this season? 6 world wide? With the new match making system after 1 night of legitiment playing with EVERYONE having the same PR to start (2100 team with everyone having 2100 pr for example) you can be out of the running for gladiator just because your PR is not within 100 of the teams rating. Thats a team who has been playing together for awhile with no one hoping can very well not get gladiator just because these obsurd rules.

So, team A who is 2100 with a 2100 average PR queues against team B with a 2000 rating but with an average PR of 1600. Team A wins and gets their 13-15 points, yet only gets 1-3 PR.

This whole matchmaking system is absolute foolishness. The ONLY changes that blizzard had to make to achieve their goals was:

-Reinstate the penalty for not taking popped Qs
-Make you get points based on your PR



Wintrading and point selling - fixed.

I'd like to meet the moron who thought this new matchmaking system was the way to fix everything.

This.

New system hurts lower brackets badly - some peple don't really care about say 2 teams and have 1 serious team...

Really don't get their logic of how the new system will really help anyone... ends up hurting more people now no?

#9 Raife

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 01:07 PM

Adamecks said:


So, team A who is 2100 with a 2100 average PR queues against team B with a 2000 rating but with an average PR of 1600. Team A wins and gets their 13-15 points, yet only gets 1-3 PR.


the way around this is to have 5 "alts" on your team who lose a game or two to get the TR back in line with the main teams PR

definitly a pain though

#10 Maxiimus

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 02:12 PM

I was helping a friend get 2k yesterday on my druid and it took forever to get my PR within 150 of the team rating. it started at only 1750 it's just every time i got within 150 we would play a team that was worth 9 points with very low PR. So basically my PR was getting less points than the team was gaining. This makes trying to get gladiator with more than 2 people in 2s dumbbbb.

#11 Zub

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 03:12 PM

I thought this was a bug myself until I read this. I just started a new team on my alt the other day, played a few games til 1600 and my PR was still stuck in the 1500's, even though I played all the games. I assume by the time I get it to 1850 to buy his weapon, my PR will be in the 1700's... pretty stupid.

#12 Superior

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 04:03 PM

They have really messed up all this rating crap.

#13 Maxiimus

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 04:22 PM

Haha yea my friend had the same PR as his team when he started around 1750. He ended 50 points less than that after 18 games. WTB blizzard to test their patches before they release retardedness. At this rate no one will have their PR within 150 of the teams and might not qualify for gladiator even if they played every game.

#14 Destructive

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Posted 24 May 2008 - 03:37 AM

Leave it to blizzard to fix something that isn't broken.

#15 Krazyxkill

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Posted 01 June 2008 - 08:53 AM

Gnomo said:

Please let personal rating be saved on the team you leave and join back in!

^ this, i have RL friends i want to play with in 3v3 and cant kuz that would mean making a new 3s team to make me eligable for a title :(

DO IT NOW BLIZZ

#16 Nosed

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Posted 25 June 2008 - 12:48 AM

Thank god to this x)

#17 Schmerz

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 09:40 AM

Theres a big flaw with this.  
If you match up with a team who is being queued by a "personal average" lower than your team , and you lose the game, your personal rating will decline more so than your teams rating.
If this happens multiple times (which is very possible) it can rly f-ck people up.

#18 breein

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Posted 27 June 2008 - 07:03 PM

Schmerz said:

Theres a big flaw with this.  
If you match up with a team who is being queued by a "personal average" lower than your team , and you lose the game, your personal rating will decline more so than your teams rating.
If this happens multiple times (which is very possible) it can rly f-ck people up.

welcome to 2 months ago lol

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