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ArenaLeague finals

Toxic Youth and Evil Genius battle out who will advance into the ArenaLeague finals today! Start 5pm CET.

ArenaLeague schedule

ArenaLeague finals will be played this Sunday and this is the schedule.

25.08.2013 - Sunday

Start - 17:00 CET (19:00 MSK)

Evil Genius vs. Toxic Youth

Game H (Bo5)

AJ developer interview

ArenaJunkies content editors Vanguards and Hildegard interviewed the World of Warcraft developers Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street and Brian Holinka.

We talked about Blizzard's decision to hold no regionals, the new match ending mechanic "The Crowd Chose You!!!", the dispel cooldowns, rewards for 2v2, the win/loss statistics with the new 5.4 arena system and online tournaments like ArenaLeague.

After the interview Zilea, Novoz and Gothiques (ArenaLeague organisator) joined the call and we discussed the interview together.

Interview as MP3

The interview is also available as MP3 with adjusted audio levels. You can download it here: AJ Dev Interview audio only


The questions about the regionals not happening have been dodged by Holinka and GC. They agree that the lack of regionals is disappointing and later on GC wrote on Twitter that they knew the answers were disappointing but they are still in the process of deciding.

Arena participation, especially for alts, has increased in patch 5.3 due to catch-up mechanic.

A role check is implemented before arena queues can be initiated. This serves the protection against malicious players queueing up arenas without asking their group members first.

For now cross-server chats are not implemented. The idea is considered for the future to help finding players for cross-realm activities like rated battlegrounds, arenas, old raids, LFR or world bosses. They like the tools players use, like e.g. oQueue and OpenRaid.

Cross-realm PUG are less needed for high-rated players.

Arena statistics only show games played and wins, but not losses. Losing games on purpose, however, should have a penalty and the statistic serves this purpose.

97% of the arena games are less than 5 minutes long. Long turtle games can destroy the experience of an arena session. The match ending mechanic called "The Crowd Chose You!!!" is intended to make these matches shorter. Some things can only be tested on live. The mechanic will be monitored on live and evaluated further.

Regarding Battle Fatique: Tanks in raids have double the health of arena players and therefore a tuning mechanic is needed to tone down heals. Healing outpaces health pools, so constant adjustments are needed.

The game in 5.3 got to bursty and so base resilience got buffed. Numbers on PTR feel better than on live. The reason why base resilience is used, instead of resilience on gear, is that new players and alts got destroyed by geared players too fast. It improves the experience for lesser geared players.

The ArenaLeague tournament is something the developers like a lot. They also like the pick and ban system ArenaLeague uses, but it's unlikely to be implemented into the game. The devs want to support ArenaLeague and similar tournaments as well as the ArenaLive tournament UI.

Streaming increased a lot over the last 5 years. Twitch.tv now has 32 million viewers. They will explore ideas like adding streams to the new launcher in the future. This is not a feature promise of any kind.

The tools to track wintrading are being improved constantly. SC:2 does not have the problem of wintrading like WoW has.

Rank 1 titles will be granted for 3v3 and 5v5 for the next arena season but that may change in the future. They are still looking at 5v5 and are unsure in what direction to go.

No titles for 2v2 are planned. 2v2 does not need help as the participation is already high. 3v3, however, needs help so moving rewards from 3v3 to 2v2 might have bad consequences.

Seasonal based achievements are a good idea, but they might cause achievement bloat. They will not be included into 5.4.

Classes in World of Warcraft have too many abilities but removing abilities may alienate players.

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Hotted and Swifty dev interview

Hotted and Swifty also had an interview with Ghostcrawler and Holinka. Check it out.

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Want to play on the ArenaPass tournament realm?

The registration is still open. You can not only compete for a spot to the regional BlizzCon qualifiers but also win a Murloc pet and the Vanquisher title, have up to 11 fully geared characters for the arena and ride close to any mount you like. Also you can /wave into the livestream or say hello to the tournament players.

More infos and registration: http://battle.net/wow/community/arena/

Tournament UI and ArenaLive UnitFrames

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#1 Crawthz

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:45 AM

Zilea... Of all the non-biased options you had, you picked Zilea.
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#2 Forumz

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:18 AM

So basically after the interview we'll have a biased Paladin rambling about how shit his class is and how everything else is OP.

Looking forward to the actual interview though.
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#3 Feliclandelo

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:46 PM

Zilea is fine. He can be over the top, and he is known for being slightly biased. But honestly, if you look through the facade he puts up to the public, he has a pretty good understanding of the game. Everyone is biased according to which class they play. This topic will probably not go deep into class balance, but overall PvP design as well if you read Hildegaards post. Another thing is that Zilea is not afraid of confrontations and I think it will be good to give him a chance to have a go at Ghostcrawler and Holinka to see how much thought they actually put behind some certain changes. Regardless to his play, he is a pretty good Paladin despite what people say.
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#4 Mirionx

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:00 PM

Zilea will be good for thi
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#5 Helia

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:10 PM

The news says :

[i]"[font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(248, 248, 248)]On the ArenaJunkies stream we invited top players to discuss the interview afterwards. So far Zilea and Novoz are confirmed as guests."[/background][/size][/font][/i]
[font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(248, 248, 248)]So I guess they gonna come AFTER the interview so he'll not "have a go at GC & Holinka" but is just gonna commentate about what they said.[/background][/size][/font]

[font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(248, 248, 248)]Anyway, really looking forward the interview. [/background][/size][/font]
[font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(248, 248, 248)]Hope they won't hide behind "it's not our decision it's Blizzard e-sport's division". Please don't let them dodge that question so easily.[/background][/size][/font]

Vanguards is a good interviewer, but I always feel like (it's just purely subjective and I hope I'm wrong) he's kinda related somehow to the people he's interviewing. You have to be an interviewer ! Not just someone asking the questions they need to answer to or want to communicate about !

Please both Vanguards & Hildegard, be harsh with them for once, don't turn this into a flat Q/A interview as you sometimes did. Discuss ! Argue !

I know you have to be grateful to them cause they're nice to offer that opportunity etc. But... Their decision is completely stupid and if you look on Twitter, the official news, US and EU forums you'll see ppl actually are pissed and don't understand why.
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#6 dogknightskillclass

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:21 PM

[quote name='Mirionx' timestamp='1377180000' post='3930116']
Zilea will be good for thi

Not sure if srs or troll xD
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#7 Zectz

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:24 PM

Zilea & Novoz in the same Skype call after the interview?
Do we reckon Zilea will make a cheap shot at Novoz about about Danny botting spheres?
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#8 Zectz

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:24 PM

Edit: Double post.
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#9 WildeHilde

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:52 PM

Gothiques (ArenaLeague organisator) and Another (not entirely sure) will join, too.
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#10 Djandawg

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:57 PM

I have one request:
Stick to arena topics and avoid broad questions. So do not ask stuff like how do you feel about the new patch , do you like the new battleground, do you think rbg tanks should take less dmg , how about 5.4 and world pvp? and so on.
Just bomb them with multiple questions on topics you mentioned above such as: "[color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]BattleFatique and Resilience, the new match ending mechanic "The Crowd Chose You!!!", the dispel cooldown, hybrids vs. pure classes". S[/background][/size][/font][/color][color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]o that this doesn't turn out to be a waste of time.[/background][/size][/font][/color]
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#11 Avarencex

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 04:06 PM

It would be nice to know why there is no regionals for US and EU, unless there is already an answer somewhere else.
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#12 talaax

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 04:57 PM

ask ghostcrawler and holinka if they always drop their spoons 10 times when theyre eating
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#13 discoepfeand

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:08 PM

I'd like to know if they think that any particular update they've made to get higher participation is working, and if so, what it was.

Also, would they be willing to talk about the number of player-hours spent in arenas vs bgs vs rbgs.
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#14 Structural

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:09 PM

No good questions will be asked.

-Buff Holy paladins; nerf everything else
-Buff all melee cleaves
-Nerf Wizards
-Some dumb promise about WoW esports (lol)
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#15 Radejjj

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:00 PM

In before the interview gets ddos'd
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#16 Djandawg

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:45 PM

Broad and irrelevant questions to arena problems were answered. Many minutes went to Online tournaments, Blizzard support or spectator client. Which are all waste of valuable minutes.
Also , most answers were either not satisfying(not in the direction the community expected) or they were just too political.
If you haven't watched it, you didn't miss any information.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:03 PM

Useless questions
Not insightful interview at all. They just replied with the expected, vague responses.
That statement about class balance is also questionable by novoz. The whole "there's every spec that's high on the ladder" is misleading and happened in cata and wrath, but if you let the game run long enough, those randy specs often get weeded out. I mean, arcane is largely considered shit in cata and wrath at this point, but you still had Abn running it in both expansions to a high rating. It doesn't really show much about class balance though.

live wotlk ladder:
warrior: 2/3 represented
rogue: 2/3 represented
hunter: 2/3 represented
shaman: 3/3 represented
priest: 2/3 represented
mage: 2/3 represented
paladin: 3/3 represented
dk: 1/3 represented
druid: 3/3 represented
warlock: 2/3 represented
(in reality, plenty of those specs were not actually good)

With enough time, balance is often exposed, and it becomes much more difficult for select specs to be represented. Additional competition and higher level of play also hinders this pretense as well. It's also a reason that I'm not big on patching very frequently because you don't give enough time to let the game unfold like it possibly could. If you go play AT, which has been running the same patch for 3+ years at this point, you will find that a lot of the play styles and fotms from live are not fotm there because the meta has largely changed in many areas, and the overall level of play is significantly higher than it was on retail aside from a very select few from retail. Resto druids are not fotm in wrath anymore because people have learned to play around them, yet they were considered fotm for nearly an entire year of live wotlk.
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Expect bias in posts because
Wotlk is the best thing since sliced bread

#18 yoloswegqtx

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:18 PM

I like how the stream auto plays and I didn't realize.

came back 30 min l8r

gg internet plan
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#19 letzdanze

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:22 PM

[color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]Gothiques preach that shit![/background][/size][/font][/color]
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#20 Synkz

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:40 PM

enjoyed the discussion after the interview quite a bit. I would love to see mini-patches every 2-3 weeks that adjusted only the PvP side of wow.
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