Legendary cloaks will not proc against players - News

#1 Marshmellow

Junkies
Posts: 2481

Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:04 PM

good, now they just need to do the same thing with pve trinkets

Back to top

#2 Dizzeeyo

Junkies
Posts: 2414

Posted 03 July 2013 - 10:17 PM

Marshmellow, on 03 July 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

good, now they just need to do the same thing with pve trinkets

and elemental shamans

see what i did there

jaimex, on 12 January 2015 - 10:30 PM, said:

if anyone needs to be banned, it's you. You do nothing but sit on AJ being a passive aggressive idiot that nobody likes, sorry you stink of washing up liquid.

Pouncedd, on 12 June 2014 - 01:51 AM, said:

Feel free to call me an idiot because I'm a hunter or some stupid ass remark but I've actually written all this down on paper and have looked at the numbers comparatively for almost every class

Jontex, on 23 June 2014 - 04:48 PM, said:

I actually made an appearance at DH2014 and I met up with people from twitch who were involved with the dota 2 / cs tournies that where there, I talked about the game from my perspective as a professional player and we actually shared a lot of opinions. All I'm saying is a lot of people will be VERY surprised about the future of this game in the esport world :)

Back to top

#3 limek

Members
Posts: 118

Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:22 PM

Dizzeeyo, on 03 July 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

and elemental shamans

see what i did there

We're waiting

Back to top

#4 Lussheen

Members
Posts: 9

Posted 03 July 2013 - 11:39 PM

Oh thank goud, hope they do something with the upcomming Trinkets from 5.4 raid and i would start dance.

Back to top

#5 Pretalethal

Junkies
Posts: 72

Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:21 AM

Been enjoying the TR with some friends and it feels so much better than live. Here is to hoping they make live arena similar.

Back to top

#6 Farkette

Premium Junkies
Posts: 35

Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:39 AM

Does that go for PETS too?

Back to top

#7 Thazable

Premium Junkies
Posts: 202

Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:48 AM

I wanted this more than a playstation 1 for christmas back in 1994 wow.

Back to top

#8 originalret

Members
Posts: 97

Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:57 AM

the 5.3 cloaks are already argueable better than the pvp cloaks.
220 primary stat > 272 pvp power

Back to top

#9 Equalwin

Members
Posts: 122

Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:11 AM

originalret, on 04 July 2013 - 01:57 AM, said:

the 5.3 cloaks are already argueable better than the pvp cloaks.
220 primary stat > 272 pvp power

how? the ones with gem or so? because the ones w.o gem has the same stats (primary stats) w.o pvp power

Back to top

#10 Thazable

Premium Junkies
Posts: 202

Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:27 AM

Equalwin, on 04 July 2013 - 02:11 AM, said:

how? the ones with gem or so? because the ones w.o gem has the same stats (or almost) w.o pvp power

I think he talks about the previous version of the legendary cloaks wich are already available in game.
Anyways the actual version will just grant 140 of your primary stat since they all have 602 of the primary on them when they get scaled down to 496 item level and not 682 like the pvp cloaks.

Back to top

#11 Darksoldierr

Junkies
Posts: 992

Posted 04 July 2013 - 10:50 AM

And what about PvE trinkets? (Again...)

What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.

Back to top

#12 Mirionx

Junkies
Posts: 1243

Posted 04 July 2013 - 11:26 AM

originalret, on 04 July 2013 - 01:57 AM, said:

the 5.3 cloaks are already argueable better than the pvp cloaks.
220 primary stat > 272 pvp power

Gem slots are counted in to the item budget, so they've got less intellect / stamina etc on them then the PvP once and they're lacking PvP power too

Back to top

#13 Daawarlock

Junkies
Posts: 141

Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:04 PM

Farkette, on 04 July 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

Does that go for PETS too?

^This, it would be so Blizz like to just forget about that...

(>'_')># I was going to give you this waffle.
#<('_'<) But then I was like.
(>'#'<) I'm hungry.
(>'-'<) So I ate it.

Back to top

#14 Feliclandelo

Junkies
Posts: 972

Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:17 PM

Pretalethal, on 04 July 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

Been enjoying the TR with some friends and it feels so much better than live. Here is to hoping they make live arena similar.

Isn't TR 5.3? I mean if they are still changing classes and such, they would have to keep updating it.

Back to top

#15 Persephones

Junkies
Posts: 342

Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:41 PM

Mirionx, on 04 July 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

Gem slots are counted in to the item budget, so they've got less intellect / stamina etc on them then the PvP once and they're lacking PvP power too

yes but it's not 1:1, a socketed item will ALWAYS be better than a non socketed piece, assuming same ilvl from a main stat perspective, and thats not counting in a possible socket bonus

Braindance, on 22 June 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

The current season is at a very good spot balance-wise. There is a comp variety that hasn't been seen in the game since s8.

Back to top

#16 Bullylol

Junkies
Posts: 28

Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:52 PM

No so bothered about the stats - its not insanely higher (though correct me if I am wrong, but the PVE items will be dropped below PVP items in terms of ilevel - may well have just imagined I read this though).

However stopping the procs is a good precedent to set - shows that bliz are willing to make that barrier between PVE and PVP and how the power levels vary and how the rewards are/need to be different.

I've always liked the option of PVE in PVP - but more just in terms of customisation not just a freeroll on power level.

Back to top

#17 Evilcow

Members
Posts: 381

Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:56 PM

http://ptr.wowdb.com...r-boss-x-loot-x is crazy atm on the PTR.

I have 21.81% crit baseline, the trinket procs with EVERY hit and gives me around 1.96% crit, I go up to 60.98% crit in 20hits, and it procs of both white hits and special attacks...

Back to top

#18 originalret

Members
Posts: 97

Posted 05 July 2013 - 03:47 AM

Thazable, on 04 July 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

I think he talks about the previous version of the legendary cloaks wich are already available in game.
Anyways the actual version will just grant 140 of your primary stat since they all have 602 of the primary on them when they get scaled down to 496 item level and not 682 like the pvp cloaks.

what are the ratio's for gear downscaling to 496 exactly? for example, reduction of 1 ilvl = reduction of ??? percentage of stats

Darksoldierr, on 04 July 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

And what about PvE trinkets? (Again...)

they now have a downscale of stat provided with an upscale of duration.
i know the duration is + 100% (so doubled duration) but does anyone know the percentage of stat reduction? i dont think its halved.

Back to top

#19 Thazable

Premium Junkies
Posts: 202

Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:39 AM

I don't really know how much stat you get from one itemlvl, I just joined arena and checked the stats on the cloak after the downscale.

Back to top

#20 originalret

Members
Posts: 97

Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:32 AM

yeah I've had to resort to the same thing. it works in random battlegrounds also so ive been doing that to test stuff.
The bit thats tricky is trinkets though. their duration adjustment is pretty obvious as you can see its duration in the buff UI, but the contribution of procs and on-uses is hard to determine as the tooltip doesnt reflect the correct figure, it still shows the PVE amount.

short of running around with my character stats window open in the middle of a BG i havent been able to figure out which trinkets work best with math

Back to top

Comments

#3 limek