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Patch 5.3: Escalation and PvP

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Be Prepared
Hold on to some of those currencies you’ve been earning over the course of patch 5.2. The gear-upgrading Void Binders are returning in patch 5.3, but it will be cheaper to upgrade items using Valor and Justice Points. Upgradeable PvP items from Season 12 will be eligible for upgrade once again at their original costs. In addition, Heirloom items will be cheaper to upgrade, whether you’re using Justice Points, Honor Points, or Darkmoon Faire tickets. We’re also speeding up the leveling process from 85 to 90. Here are the details:
  • The experience required to level from 85 to 90 will be reduced by 33%. Time to dust off those alts!
  • The Void Binders are coming back!
  • Items upgraded with Valor will now cost 250 Valor Points to upgrade per 4 Item Levels, for a total of 500 Valor for 8 Item Levels per item. This applies retroactively to all items that can be upgraded using Valor.
  • Items upgraded with Justice will now cost 750 Justice Points to upgrade for 8 Item Levels. They can only be upgraded once, for a total of 750 Justice and 8 Item Levels per item. This applies retroactively to all items that can be upgraded using Justice.
  • Malevolent Gladiator’s Conquest (Season 12) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original Conquest Point costs (750 Conquest Points per 4 Item Levels, with two upgrades possible).
  • Dreadful Gladiator’s Honor (Season 12) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original costs (one upgrade at a cost of 1500 Honor Points for 8 Item Levels).
  • No other PvP items will be able to be upgraded.
  • The amount of Justice, Honor, and Darkmoon Faire tickets needed to upgrade Heirloom items will be reduced by 60%.

PvP Season Update
PvP Season 13 is still in full swing. We discussed many of the changes coming to PvP gear in our PvP Gear in 5.2 and Preparing for PvP in Patch 5.3 blogs, and the changes below are explained in greater detail there. As a reminder, the 7,250 Conquest Point requirement to purchase non-elite Conquest Point weapons is being removed with patch 5.3.

A number of significant changes are coming to PvP and PvP gear:
  • All characters now have a base Resilience of 65%.
  • Battle Fatigue now reduces the effectiveness of healing and absorb spells and abilities by 45% (was 30%).
  • PvP Power bonus to healing is now based on class and specialization.
  • Healing specializations receive a 100% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
  • Damage specializations for Druids, Monks, Paladins, Priests, and Shaman receive a 70% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
  • All other specializations and classes (including tanking) receive a 40% bonus to healing from PvP Power.
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#1 Nmplol

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:51 PM

I read it. need someone to explain to me.

#2 AcerMVP

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:21 AM

Re-rolled DK already.

#3 Zedkek

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:23 AM

TBH I think that taking away resil off gear and bringing it up to 65% base for everyone is a mistake.

#4 Usingg

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:43 AM

rofl why is there like 5 different modifiers to healing now...........
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#5 Thaz

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:53 AM

[quote name='Zedkek' timestamp='1368231795' post='3886191']
TBH I think that taking away resil off gear and bringing it up to 65% base for everyone is a mistake.
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Agree, just separate the fucking game. It is apparent that they can't balance this.
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#6 Capers

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:52 AM

[quote]Malevolent Gladiator’s Conquest (Season 12) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original Conquest Point costs (750 Conquest Points per 4 Item Levels, with two upgrades possible).[/quote]


I don't get the point of this. Why would you use conquest points to upgrade malevolent pieces, when you can just buy the Tyrannical ones which are like 7 ilvls higher than the upgraded Malev? Why not just make honor gear upgradable with honor, to make a gear catch-up mechanic easier?
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#7 Zerlog

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:40 AM

[quote name='Capers' timestamp='1368244357' post='3886274']
I don't get the point of this. Why would you use conquest points to upgrade malevolent pieces, when you can just buy the Tyrannical ones which are like 7 ilvls higher than the upgraded Malev? Why not just make honor gear upgradable with honor, to make a gear catch-up mechanic easier?
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[img]http://gyazo.com/69af721fe9ce937f1e81328d1b86856a.png[/img]

u saw it here first.

#8 Hoodzx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:24 AM

[quote name='Zerlog' timestamp='1368261611' post='3886319']
[img]http://gyazo.com/69af721fe9ce937f1e81328d1b86856a.png[/img]

u saw it here first.
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[i]Malevolent Gladiator’s Conquest ([/i][u][b]Season 12[/b][/u][i]) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original Conquest Point costs (750 Conquest Points per 4 Item Levels, with two upgrades possible).[/i]

It's useful for elite weapons that you bought without upgrading them (like a 3500 conq weapon is more expensive to buy than a 1500conquest upgrade), simple as that.

#9 Vynieh

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:07 PM

Great changes

#10 fant0m8

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:00 PM

[quote name='Capers' timestamp='1368244357' post='3886274']
I don't get the point of this. Why would you use conquest points to upgrade malevolent pieces, when you can just buy the Tyrannical ones which are like 7 ilvls higher than the upgraded Malev? Why not just make honor gear upgradable with honor, to make a gear catch-up mechanic easier?
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It's not meant to be something that a lot of people do. They are only reenabling it *because* it will have almost no impact on most PVPers.

Basically there's no point in preventing people from upgrading now that there is a new season of gear, so they took the restriction away, just to give a little more freedom of choice back.
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#11 Thaya

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:35 PM

[quote name='Capers' timestamp='1368244357' post='3886274']



I don't get the point of this. Why would you use conquest points to upgrade malevolent pieces, when you can just buy the Tyrannical ones which are like 7 ilvls higher than the upgraded Malev? Why not just make honor gear upgradable with honor, to make a gear catch-up mechanic easier?
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[quote name='Hoodzx' timestamp='1368264279' post='3886322']


[i]Malevolent Gladiator’s Conquest ([/i][u][b]Season 12[/b][/u][i]) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original Conquest Point costs (750 Conquest Points per 4 Item Levels, with two upgrades possible).[/i]

It's useful for elite weapons that you bought without upgrading them (like a 3500 conq weapon is more expensive to buy than a 1500conquest upgrade), simple as that.
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No dudes, this is just copypasta of their old post, and that's even what this blue post says.

This is about [b]Season 12 Malevolent pieces[/b] - the original Season 12 ones, not the ones available for Honor right now! those are marked [b]Season 13[/b], you can see it in the item tooltips yourself.

This basically means that the old gear that used to be upgradeable, will still remain upgradeable, ergo the change they did this season with removing Upgrades from PvP is not retroactive for old gear - old upgrades get to stay. That's it. No changes.

[quote name='Zerlog' timestamp='1368261611' post='3886319']


[img]http://gyazo.com/69af721fe9ce937f1e81328d1b86856a.png[/img]

u saw it here first.
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These items always had 0/2 upgrades marked on armory and various item DBs. They will not be upgradeable until Blizzard intentionally allows them to be.

(This post was reported for misinformation, but it's a valid question that others may ask.)
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#12 Hoodzx

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:00 PM

[quote name='Thaya' timestamp='1368282941' post='3886357']
No dudes, this is just copypasta of their old post, and that's even what this blue post says.

This is about [b]Season 12 Malevolent pieces[/b] - the original Season 12 ones, not the ones available for Honor right now! those are marked [b]Season 13[/b], you can see it in the item tooltips yourself.
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... Thats why i bolded the "Season 12", and i'm talking about Elite Weapons from last season (you can't have Elite S13 at the moment and Elite S11 isnt upgradable lol...)

#13 Ginostylez

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:47 PM

inb4 blizz implements this on s13 gear (upgrades) FUU BLIZZ

#14 Ginostylez

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:50 PM

[i]Malevolent Gladiator’s Conquest (Season 12) items that have upgrades available will still be upgradable at their original Conquest Point costs (750 Conquest Points per 4 Item Levels, with two upgrades possible).[/i]


[i]item costs honor, upgrades cost conquest points, does not make sense, why not just do honor (gear) - honor (upgrades).[/i]

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[i]or I guess the new honor malevolent pieces bought with honor isn't classified as s12 anymore. so I guess those who had the gear already [/i]from last season that didn't upgrade them can waste 1500 conquest points to upgrade a ring fully when they can save 250 and just buy the tyranical one... why do things that don't make sense

#15 Capers

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:43 PM

[quote][color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]No dudes, this is just copypasta of their old post, and that's even what this blue post says.[/background][/size][/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]This is about [/background][/size][/font][/color][b]Season 12 Malevolent pieces[/b][color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)] - the original Season 12 ones, not the ones available for Honor right now! those are marked [/background][/size][/font][/color][b]Season 13[/b][color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)], you can see it in the item tooltips yourself.[/background][/size][/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=verdana, tahoma, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(244, 244, 244)]This basically means that the old gear that used to be upgradeable, will still remain upgradeable, ergo the change they did this season with removing Upgrades from PvP is not retroactive for old gear - old upgrades get to stay. That's it. No changes.[/background][/size][/font][/color]

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Ahh okay, that makes sense. I still don't get why they don't just make the S13 stuff upgradeable too, up to like ilvl 484 or w/e. It would just make it so you aren't at a huge disadvantage from Malev honor - Tyrannical. I still don't understand why anyone would upgrade their old Malevolent though, unless it's 8 more levels.

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Upgradeable with honor that is.
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#16 Partypinglan

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:16 PM

How are they thinking by removing resilience and implementing 65% resi on everyone ;o
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Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:26 PM

[quote name='Partypinglan' timestamp='1368537380' post='3887309']
How are they thinking by removing resilience and implementing 65% resi on everyone ;o
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Knowing blizz they are thinking that it will be easier to balance around if everyone has the same resilence at the cost of certain shit being op until they figure out number tweaks.... for dmg.
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