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PvP Related Blues

There's been some interesting blue posts and tweets lately regarding PvP. It feels to me that Blizzard has really been trying to "answer" the PvP community as of late. I personally liked that they feel there is too much instant CCs in the game since I share that opinion.

Official Blizzard Quote:

Class Specific
¨What do you think of DK survival in pvp? I quit mine because I realized in premop patch that we were going to be easy target
If you can get a DK to blow all def cooldowns, then they're easier to kill, but you still have Blood Presence.

Why is Blood getting nerfed PvP wise? We have no mobility what so ever.. we are easily kited.WTF. Compensate for the nerf?
We don't like invulnerable tanks in PvP even if they are slow. Blood had too much self-healing in PvP.

How long are we going to have to wait to see shifting out of snares removed?
Not on our radar ATM. We don't want to nerf every counter in PvP, just the ones that feel super frustrating.

Regarding hunters, why is BW, a skill untouched for years suddenly OP? Also 5.1 changes nothing regarding MM being weak in pvp
We don't think defenses used offensively makes good gameplay. They tend to get blown immediately not strategically.

Hey GC with the change in 5.1 making totems act as spells was it intended to nerf all specs or just resto ?
it was intended as a nerf to totems. Now that they do things (not just buffs) they were hard to counter.

General PvP
CC in general is totally out of control, too much instant !@#$ going on
We would very much like to make it so that more crowd controls start going back to having a cast time. We feel that instant cast spells should be something that's rare to see and we admit that they have become far too common.

When you or one of the blizzard staff mentioned the 30% healing nerf in Battlegrounds, I hope you mean hybrids only.
Nope. We suspect healing overall is too potent once burst is toned down. You shouldn't need to 100% CC a healer to score a kill.

Make PvP abilities a mod to PvE abilities = PvP changes isolated. Add PvP Stance for equipment/glyphs, fallback to PvE gear.
We make abilities work differently as a later sort, but I for one don't want to have to earn two different rule sets.

greg making two rule sets is the only way to fix the PVE vs PVP issue. have you not learned that yet?
Disagree. Also even if true, perfect balance gains us nothing if a bunch of players leave because the rules are inscrutable.

A flightless Tol Barad-type zone is essential for world pvp. Do you regret not making one for MoP or plan to make one?
We had done those zones 2 expansions in a row so felt it was time to let it rest a bit, but I bet we try them again in the future.

Why are the PvP achievements so limited? No 2,4k in 2v2. No 1k arenas won? 5k arenas won? Hot Hot Hot streak? #possibilities
We'd like to add more but we need to make sure they don't encourage strange behavior. Ach farming in PvP can get silly fast.

I believe an open mind is more important than a title, experience after that. Sadly, even glads can be very biased.
People who like to eat don't always make good cooks. That doesn't mean they can't tell you what they like to eat.

Do you take advice from a master chef or some guy who just happens to enjoy food?

So why nerf all specs? Reducing the benefit of mastery in PvP would fix resto, but ele isn't even viable pre-nerfs.
We don't think it's all about the healing, and Resto PvE healing is fine. We think totems are too good.

people will stop complaining about resto pvp nerfs if you nerf frost bomb/ warrior cd stacking/ resto drood control
There are mage and warrior nerfs in 5.1. Keeping an eye on Cyclone for now.

I'm not giving up on skirmish arenas, never, ever. You know we want it. inb4 block :<
We aren't either - it's just not going to be super soon.

Everyone agrees with him/her. This upgrade gear thing is going to make people quit the game. PvP is dying.
claiming to speak for everyone always makes me suspicious.

well, not everyone but the majority i think. btw, i would love to have that pvp forum on the US.
just make good arguments and don't worry about invoking a huge crowd to agree with you. It's not a vote anyway.
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#1 l0liv3r

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:07 AM

[quote name='Smokey89' timestamp='1355251514' post='3818962']
why the hell are you still looking at WoW sites and forums if you quit rofl?

Its posted on my facebook since I followed AJ there, and most people who do look at this but is not playing is hoping to read some insane changes that will make them come back, but it never happens and we are still waiting :<  Humans are stupid, not much more to say about that, but ur even more stupid for asking a question like that. No offence.
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#2 saladisok

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

well you can see that blizzard is for once taking decisions and actually trying to improve the pvp aspect of the game and not ignoring it. people will always hate for the sake of hating

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 12:58 AM

great analysis
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#4 cluckuirl

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

wahhhhhhhahhhwahhh :P

#5 Jinngo

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 08:37 PM

If he isnt gonna buff dk's survival im gonna kick his ass :( :eek: :eek: :ph34r: :deathknight: :deathknight: :deathknight: :deathknight:

#6 sammyjo06

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:04 PM

[quote name='Durial' timestamp='1355254554' post='3818998']
[i][color=#000000][i]I'm not giving up on skirmish arenas, never, ever. You know we want it. inb4 block :<[/i][/color]
We aren't either - it's just not going to be super soon.[/i]

Would literally start playing again if skirmish came back.
Gives me something to do when there's nothing to do (Whenever you're not doing Arena(Most of the time(All of the time)))

This. Want skirms back so bad :(!

#7 Zercky

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 02:17 AM

Very Nice !