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#4637065 Question about Classes

Posted by Ujinpark88 on Yesterday, 08:07 PM in General Questions

Hey Guys,

 

i played whole Legion on Horde and want to use my spare time to get used to another class - on alliance side (some friends play there).

 

In the past i enjoyed playing arms warrior in pve and pvp a lot. 

 

I would appreciate your insight to my new alliance char, i want to switch from arms warrior to one of the following:

 

- feral druid (nightelf, heard worgen suck)

- retri pala (human)

- hunter (nightelf or human, not sure yet)

 

Can you recommend any of them for 2v2 and 3v3 (currently no designated group composition) - and BGs. Maybe something is currently not viable in Arena.

 

I already tried WW Monk (stopped playing, doesnt fit into the Lore - in my opinion) and frost DK (felt too dull with 3 buttons and immobile as fuck).

Comparison:
Rets vs Ferals :  Rets and ferals obviously are powerhouses in damage.  They both take a lot of damage though, since they are both hybrid classes/specs.  Rets have lower mobility, you have to freedom+divine steed to get from point A to B in a satisfactory time.  Ferals, they can shift and wild charge, dash, etc. i.e high mobility. 

Hunters vs Ferals vs Rets : Hunters have decent mobility, obviously will be able to hit things more often than a ret can in certain situations.  Like every ranged class, you will always be near a pillar, so it does help tremendously in taking less damage overall if need be.  Ferals and hunters have similar playstyles in ways that they can keep an enemy in a spot for a long time, rets really don't have that capability on their own.

BGs, Arenas:
Ferals are really good in 2v2, like really fucking good.  Bleeds make life easier.  
Hunters really good in 2v2 as well, but dampening might be more of a necessity than on say: a feral
Rets are really good in 2v2 as well, they have good utility and damage output.
You can also do double dps on all 3 and have a good outcome.

3v3, Rets will be stressful to play: Lots of things u wont be able to touch but when you do touch them, oof the damage (As stated earlier you also take a lot of damage, time playing offensive and defensive well)
Ferals, bleeds bleeds bleeds you can be offensive and defensive almost simultaneously by having bleeds to rot on people whilst using your mobility to counter cooldowns
Hunters rely more on synergy than either ret or ferals, they offer a large role in enemy management, i.e CC and slows, alignment of CC is necessary for hunters to be at peak performance

BGS:
Ferals weren't that great in BGs to my knowledge since they are more single target than anything, they have high mobility and can kill flag carriers rather well (stealth past and blast), flag maps you are probably gonna be sitting a base
Rets do well on maps like Kotmogu, they have a CC removal for healers, flag carriers, etc. also are good base sitters
Hunters do really good in BGs to my knowledge, you may also have to base sit lol

This is just a general thing, by no means am I an expert at those classes, I'm just giving my personal experiences without going too much in depth.  I used to main a feral and a hunter but I was never really that big on playing ret.  Hope this helps in some way.  




#4637064 Taken years off is it worth coming back

Posted by Ujinpark88 on Yesterday, 07:46 PM in General Questions

I quit wow after season 8 wotlk but i have still been following the game and watching blizzcons etc etc. Is the game in a balanced state these days? I feel like the peak of the game was late wotlk and i loved watching players like marm and homerjay on arena tourney when it felt like every class had a comp that could be played at a competitive level. Just curious if ita worth coming back to a game i played years ago.

Horrid state.  Horrid.




#4637026 Some reading material on WoW arena

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 12 January 2018 - 07:20 PM in General Discussion

Good post overall and it's a shame it's on a dead forum. A few things I would like to add that made the game lose prestige in my eyes:

 

Complete disregard for old players

I've spent thousands of euros/dollars on this game. I had nearly 600 played days by the end of BC. I gave my life to this game.

 

At this point in time, any random teenager can obtain 99% of the things I got in my bank within a few days. My PvE warrior (the original one) has 6 t3s, many other unobtainable items from nax (Ramaladni's icy grasp, plague bearer and so on). Now you pay some gold in the auction house and it's yours. Why? No amount of gold is worth all that time I invested to obtain these items. My guild killed Kael 10 days after nihilum (thats like top 10) and I got ashes on that kill. I was being spam whispered to sell it and I said no, cause I loved my character.  My warrior was a tiny bit of my soul transferred into the game. Now an alt with 6 hours played total can go in TK kill kael like it's a lvl 10 mob and get it. Why? 

 

THE ONLY thing they ever did that catered to some players was the veteran of the shifting sands achievement. I missed hitting the gong and the event due to school, with all the scepter pieces assembled. I was crying in the bathroom because of that. FUcK lost crew FUCK cubensis. After so many years at least they gave me an achievement. That's somethin.

 

I was someone important because I put a lot of effort and time in this game. I practically sacrificed my youth to get epics. I will always remember what my old guildmaster in vanilla told me "Doesn't matter what gear you have, what matters is when you have it". Yeah the when stopped mattering.

 

Gameplay changes

The next big thing, if not the biggest, is the gradual homogenization/ability pruning that has befallen the game. When I said I put a small part of my soul into my character I meant it. Every warrior spec took time to master. My action bars were full of abilities and macros. Playing was demanding but rewarding. Now everyone presses the same buttons, and the soul of each class has been lost. I believe this is the reason blizzard is bleeding subscribers more than anything else. You don't pve 100% of the time and you don't pvp 100% of the time. You play your character 100% of the time and if that's not enjoyable then nothing is.

 

The community

This game was played by hardcore nerds. I would sleep in net cafes, forget to bathe, ignore my friends. But I had friends in game. Lots of them. Tons of them. Everyone knew everyone. We did shit together, we spoke on ventrillo, we had tons of FUN. Now I q up a dungeon, raid w/e no one speaks. No one is interested in anything, this place is like a huge tinder where you constantly swap partners. 

 

That's all I think I got for now

I relate to this 100%




#4637025 Never thought i would miss wod gameplay

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 12 January 2018 - 07:05 PM in General Discussion

PvP all things considered (enjoyability, activity, gameplay, fun etc.)

 

Wotlk>>>>>>>MoP>>>>>>>>>>>BC>>>>Legion>WoD>Cata

 

PvE in terms of epicness mostly (PvE is not gauged by difficulty but by story depth - although I would argue that after raiding everything until MoP, SSC/TK were the hardest by far. Up to date I cannot recall a fight where I wiped more than Kael, followed by Vashj)

 

TBC tier 5 (SSC/TK)/TBC heroics>Vanilla AQ/Naxx>Vanilla dungeons preraids (Scholo 10man)>Wotlk Ulduar era>Legion>MoP>>Wod>>>Cata

 

Dunno legion PvP seems a bit stale and class gameplay is very cut and dry but overall the game offers things to do. Storyline's pretty good, quests don't feel as grindy, raids are well designed (but easy), mythic is cool. 

Wow you really didn't like Cata lol




#4637010 Never thought i would miss wod gameplay

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 10 January 2018 - 11:27 PM in General Discussion

im assuming a well established player like yourself with r1 titles from 5+ years ago would have plenty of partners by now no?

The last sliver of my friends quit after WoD, not to imply that I miss WoD simply due to them though.  I could find new partners, but people don't like to comply with a different method of play style(for example an analytical approach in game play rather than a let's just hit things) and they react rather mercurially to it in Legion.  This is why I did legion s1 and s2 with regular rather than pushing r1, it just tired me out going through countless people with the same results except for a small few whom had to unfortunately quit due to their job circumstances. 




#4637008 Never thought i would miss wod gameplay

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 10 January 2018 - 10:55 PM in General Discussion

how can you be stressed when you can just buy titles and chill? hehe xd

 

also how do you stress over a video game? 

It's not really the video game I stress over, it's interactions with other people.  It makes me lose faith in humanity with how many IQ points i've dropped since legion.  It could just be my bad luck, but I haven't had the same experience with any other xpac. 




#4637005 Some reading material on WoW arena

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 10 January 2018 - 08:50 PM in General Discussion

wow arena is dead

almost as dead as pokemon pvp




#4637004 Never thought i would miss wod gameplay

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 10 January 2018 - 08:45 PM in General Discussion

I miss WoD too, it was so antisocial so I didn't have to listen to people with high ignorance levels talk.  Those were the days. (not firing shots, just saying it as a generalization, this xpac gives me more stress than any other xpac simply due to the people i've encountered)




#4636987 LL

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 07 January 2018 - 05:42 PM in General Discussion

getting our post count up on this dead ass forum.. dead ass game too sadly. dafuq

lol




#4636986 PvP is THIS dead?

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 07 January 2018 - 05:26 PM in General Discussion

They don't have the original coding of vanilla WoW anymore.  Even private servers don't have the proper percentages and etc, only thing they can do is just guess and check. 
For instance, Nostalrius did a good job with tweaking and trying to mimic the numbers and fix spells. 

I'm not sure if they rehired the pool of developers that worked on WoW years ago or keep in contact with them at the very least, but they have plenty of time to make the vanilla they think will give the joys of the past to the players of the present. 
-Will they fix the bugs that vanilla originally had? 
Quite possibly. 
-Will there be new bugs arising slipping through the cracks of their prying eyes?
Quite possibly.  

I just hope that this will replicate the numerous amount of social interactions and family-like environment I've experienced in those days whilst enjoying the oh so glorious world PVP and battlegrounds.




#4636962 PvP is THIS dead?

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 06 January 2018 - 01:05 AM in General Discussion

I didn't know that, still can't be bothered playing though. I will just wait until the Vanilla WoW servers come out and grind that assuming they don't touch it and fuck it up.

You're willing to wait a long time.  I salute you.




#4636947 PvP is THIS dead?

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 03 January 2018 - 08:08 PM in General Discussion

Hi everybody long time no see

Hey hey

 

Nothing to talk about same trash tier dampening meta for last 6 months 

 

also all helments not showing on arenajunkies is a big turn off hehe xd

You're not wrong lol




#4636944 PvP is THIS dead?

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 03 January 2018 - 05:03 PM in General Discussion

I think it was just a buildup of things til people just went "fuck this."




#4636940 LL

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 01 January 2018 - 05:10 PM in General Discussion

naa man 




#4636937 Rest in Peace AJOT

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 28 December 2017 - 04:40 AM in Off Topic

thats a lot of titles man

"Hard work" -Floyd Mayweather



 




#4636936 PvP Brawls: Warsong Scramble [December 27 - January 3]

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 27 December 2017 - 06:40 PM in News

Tell me how the fuck it’s possbile to add 4 more flags to get/defend and it some how increases the people just fighting in mid. I played a game and ran 4 flags through a huge group and got completely ignored by both sides

God bless. 




#4636932 LL

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 26 December 2017 - 12:39 AM in General Discussion

uh huh




#4636931 Rest in Peace AJOT

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 25 December 2017 - 06:08 PM in Off Topic

Merry Christmas! 




#4636928 End of season success!

Posted by Ujinpark88 on 24 December 2017 - 10:01 PM in Videos

Good job, it looked like you had a lot of fun!  Always good to see people enjoying themselves, even after returning from such a long break! Keep up the good work, and stay hungry for more arenas! 

 





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