View Full Version : Any successful pal/warr teams out there?
Sashia
02-03-2008, 01:50 PM
Really frustrated after being stuck at 1.9k forever on bloodlust bg. Are there any successful pal/warrs out there? Specifically in this case against warr/druid. Yes my warrior and I can win shit warr/druid teams that dont protect the druid, or has a warrior that goes out of los of the druid long enough to be bursted down.
But above 1.9k, the teams dont make stupid mistakes like that anymore. The warrior can go for anyone really, either me or my partner. He just snares me no matter who hes killing, sunder x5 on the warrior usually, and pounds on him whole game. I cannot keep up with healing especially with druids playing the pillar game. Sooner or later I go oom first and we lose since I cant really reach the druid to keep up joj 24/7, and my warrior is taking heavy dmg and has to pull back a lot and eventually we lose.
Already on the verge of giving up but Id hate to do that since the warr is a RL friend. Can anyone help?
Legendz
02-03-2008, 04:56 PM
yeah its still doable, me n my war got 2080 like 2 months ago, but its a fragile combo, can lose some 25 pt games easy vs double caster or some 2 dps teams
theres alot of 2100 + pala wars out there too, just takes more practice n luck then druid/X
Phiers
02-03-2008, 06:25 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Smolderthorn&ts=2&t=Countered+by+Everything&select=Countered+by+Everything
They were over 2300 before remaking the team.
Kawklee
02-04-2008, 02:54 AM
Druid/War def isn't a problem, its the rogue/mage teams that will make you want to take a gun to your temple.
Rakeash
02-04-2008, 05:16 AM
Some warrior/paladin teams in Stormstrike 2200+
Apparently they figured out how to beat warrior/druid well.
Kawklee
02-04-2008, 12:06 PM
add this to mage/rogue: hunter/druid will give you an aneurysm as well.
Warrior druid is pretty simple as warpal
I have been doing some war/paladin this season, and we have gotten over 2200. It certainly is doable but it can be very tricky. One silence can be the difference between losing 20+ pts or not.
Axiel
02-05-2008, 02:06 PM
i definately find pally warrior much harder to play now than it was s1 s2. Druid/Hunter makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
Kawklee
02-05-2008, 04:09 PM
i definately find pally warrior much harder to play now than it was s1 s2. Druid/Hunter makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
Lets try to think of more creative ways to express self mutilation in response to playing druid hunter.
"Personally cauterize my male anatomy" is my next choice.
Rakeash
02-05-2008, 09:00 PM
Lets try to think of more creative ways to express self mutilation in response to playing druid hunter.
I don't know about self-mutilation but I would like to offically call for The Great Crusade of the 21st Century to be against any druids you see leveling up. We must stop them from hitting 70.
Now.. we must figure out some way of turning their hunter brethern against them before they realize hunter/druid is such a good combination (at least in the Shadowburn battlegroup I don't think it's too late).. so we can track them all down.
Sillymug
02-06-2008, 07:49 AM
hunter druid is annoying and make me very sad :-(
Naive
02-11-2008, 07:27 PM
I've been playing paladin/warrior this season. We're currently ranked around 25th and 2150. The weakness is any double DPS, hunter/druid, and some lock/druids. It seems to definitely be viable, though, with so many warrior/druids that panic when they see warrior/paladin and our sexy BoF and judgement of justice.
Rakeash
02-11-2008, 08:22 PM
I've been playing paladin/warrior this season. We're currently ranked around 25th and 2150. The weakness is any double DPS, hunter/druid, and some lock/druids. It seems to definitely be viable, though, with so many warrior/druids that panic when they see warrior/paladin and our sexy BoF and judgement of justice.
Can I have your Illidan gear?
I've been playing paladin/warrior this season. We're currently ranked around 25th and 2150. The weakness is any double DPS, hunter/druid, and some lock/druids. It seems to definitely be viable, though, with so many warrior/druids that panic when they see warrior/paladin and our sexy BoF and judgement of justice.
You forgot to mention the fact that less than 1% of the games played on your 2s team are with that warrior (the other 99% being with a lock). And the fact that you are sporting the best possible pve gear possible atm ;)
Saffira
02-12-2008, 07:15 AM
In my opinion we should all just reroll druid. Mines 42!
I am giving up on two's as a holy pally. It is not worth the struggle imo. Lock/Pally is basically dead. War/Pally isn't as dead but you some way to lvl it up. Try partnering with a war/druid combo and then switch yourself in if theres a bunch of war/druids queing that night.
3's and 5's is much more fun now.
Limewire
02-12-2008, 05:04 PM
Errelno and Dares are 2200, they were #1 for the first 3 weeks I believe, and they're EXTREMELY GOOD. But, unfortunately Dares got sick of how unbalanced 2v2 is so he quit doing that.
Soulja
02-12-2008, 09:06 PM
I guess I am a successful pal/war team.
It's very disappointing losing to 2 DPS teams and losing 20+ points, and while beating them you only get a fraction of the points for all the struggle.
It gets pretty frustrating at times and just makes me wanna tear my heart out and wonder why I rolled a paladin.
Divini
02-14-2008, 04:00 PM
You could call us a successful war/pal team as well.
For warrior+druid you pretty much have to assist your warrior in taking down the druid. The healing -> spell dmg patch makes it very possible.
It's difficult, but having your warrior spell reflecting nature's grasp is invaluable. Also have your warrior save your intercept when he's NOT in bear, as much as possible.
It's really long, tedious, frustrating, and you'll start to wonder why the hell you're playing this combo when you realize how unbalanced 2v2 is, but it's doable.
(Hunter/Druid and Pal/Lock make us cry)
My warrior and I just reached 2k last night, and it did take a while. Very frustrating in the process, but we finally put it off. So I could say we are successful. Therefore, as most know, pal+war can be in high brackets
Soulja
02-14-2008, 05:58 PM
You could call us a successful war/pal team as well.
For warrior+druid you pretty much have to assist your warrior in taking down the druid. The healing -> spell dmg patch makes it very possible.
It's difficult, but having your warrior spell reflecting nature's grasp is invaluable. Also have your warrior save your intercept when he's NOT in bear, as much as possible.
It's really long, tedious, frustrating, and you'll start to wonder why the hell you're playing this combo when you realize how unbalanced 2v2 is, but it's doable.
(Hunter/Druid and Pal/Lock make us cry)
I find this untrue for me for the most part, I find myself not really needing to do anything to the druid, not even JoJ. If the warrior is on myself, the one thing that I need to do is keep blessing of freedom on my warrior at all times. If the warrior goes on my warrior, then it's a whole different story, and yes. I do have to assist
Rakeash
02-14-2008, 06:23 PM
I don't know why but there seems to be something magical about the Stormstrike battlegroup that generates the most 2k+ warrior/paladin teams.
What combos are you guys facing mostly?
brosum
02-20-2008, 11:52 PM
Hit 2k a while ago with warrior paladin, but stopped since its so god damn frustrating at times.
Saffira
02-21-2008, 01:00 PM
Theres a couple in our BG. Most lvl as another combo though and then add in a warrior to play counter to all the war/druids that are on the top of ours.
Hubris
02-22-2008, 05:39 AM
Almost any setup can get high ratings in 2v2. It's just harder for some than it is for others, due to it depending on who you fight. If a Paladin/Warrior team is only fighting Druid/Warrior, then sure, they can reach the top very quickly.
On Cyclone EU, 2v2 is hell in S3(And it was hell in S2, too). The queues are terrible, and most of the time you're fighting setups you can't really beat(Hunter/Druid with a clue anyone?). It's for this reason that I've pretty much quit the 2v2 bracket for serious play a long time ago.
I used to enjoy it quite a fair bit as Warrior/Paladin in S1, reaching as high as 2530. Nowadays, it's really not feasible anymore to reach 2.3K+ unless you only meet favourable match-ups and/or queue dodge a lot.
Saffira
02-22-2008, 10:00 AM
Almost any setup can get high ratings in 2v2. It's just harder for some than it is for others, due to it depending on who you fight. If a Paladin/Warrior team is only fighting Druid/Warrior, then sure, they can reach the top very quickly.
On Cyclone EU, 2v2 is hell in S3(And it was hell in S2, too). The queues are terrible, and most of the time you're fighting setups you can't really beat(Hunter/Druid with a clue anyone?). It's for this reason that I've pretty much quit the 2v2 bracket for serious play a long time ago.
I used to enjoy it quite a fair bit as Warrior/Paladin in S1, reaching as high as 2530. Nowadays, it's really not feasible anymore to reach 2.3K+ unless you only meet favourable match-ups and/or queue dodge a lot.
Couldn't Agree more. I quit 2's for the first half of the season since pally/lock was dying. I only recently started playing it again.
Pally/War is a very tough combo to play well. It requires the pally to be usually extremely offensive and actually to be bubbling to get more dps out. Out of the top team matchups only war/druid and priest/rogue is favorable. Any druid/war with a clue will make that match hell still.
O and btw, your sig is probably the best one I have seen.
Kawklee
02-23-2008, 03:07 PM
The massive warlock nerfs are making warrior the only viable paladin partner in 2v2 (as holy)... but it may be strong again in relation to the other classes.
Its funny how ret is turning into the premier spec for 2v2 and 3v3
Fierss
02-23-2008, 03:31 PM
Ret is not a premier 2v2 spec.
Legendz
02-23-2008, 04:57 PM
well id say its about same difficulty to get 2k as ret frost than palla war
so yes ret is viable 2s if u dont have T6 and patience to push 2s with a warrior
Kawklee
02-23-2008, 06:29 PM
Ret is not a premier 2v2 spec.
Yea, I shoulda clarified that. All my good in-game buds were liek, "man, we dont wanna play pally/x, shit just takes too long. Spec ret and then we'll have some fun."
Maybe premier was the wrong way to put it, but by looking at my friends' opinions, (ex gladiators) they'd rather just go with a ret pally and have fun with it.
Hubris
02-24-2008, 08:06 AM
Couldn't Agree more. I quit 2's for the first half of the season since pally/lock was dying. I only recently started playing it again.
Pally/War is a very tough combo to play well. It requires the pally to be usually extremely offensive and actually to be bubbling to get more dps out. Out of the top team matchups only war/druid and priest/rogue is favorable. Any druid/war with a clue will make that match hell still.
O and btw, your sig is probably the best one I have seen.
Pretty much. I've recently been doing some 2v2 as Holy Paladin/Retribution Paladin. It's quite funny, actually. You can really, really see how some players are just getting completely carried by their class(Druids/Warlock/Priests comes to mind). It's like playing 2v2 as Warrior/Paladin, except without all the goodies(MS/Hamstring/Intercept+Macestuns).
Thanks for the comment about my signature. I've had it for a while now, and it's very true. :)
[Addendum]By the by, I can not see how this would work for Alliance paladins. Mana-tap/Arcane Torrent are just too huge in 2v2 when it comes to keeping people in combat/stopping people from drinking, and using the AE silences together for bursts.
Yea, I shoulda clarified that. All my good in-game buds were liek, "man, we dont wanna play pally/x, shit just takes too long. Spec ret and then we'll have some fun."
Maybe premier was the wrong way to put it, but by looking at my friends' opinions, (ex gladiators) they'd rather just go with a ret pally and have fun with it.
The only reason Retribution is doing semi-decently in 3v3(As Warrior/Retribution Paladin/Druid or Restoration Shaman) is due to the fact that there are quite a lot of cloth classes in that particular bracket. With dual-melee, you can easily zerg someone down, whilst the druid* can do whatever he pleases. In 2v2, not so much.
The only combination I could really see working there is with a Mage or a rogue. The highest I've seen a Retribution Paladin get in 2v2 was around 2.1K~ish in the beginning of season 3 with a rogue. They were just destroying all of the shit Warrior/Druid teams.
*Not even mentioning the fact that Druids work really great against rogues.
Geosis
03-11-2008, 12:47 PM
A paladin-warrior combo can still work in 2v2's,. i am with my warrior friend just over the 2.1k... its really ain't easy to get high and the combo mage-rogue really makes you cry since you simply can't win from them if they play decent,..
team with druids are hard as always and require a offensice tactic, seal of justice on the druid is a must at all times..
Check out this movie for tactics against commen setup's:
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=61909
ebayrr
03-13-2008, 06:01 AM
Really frustrated after being stuck at 1.9k forever on bloodlust bg. Are there any successful pal/warrs out there? Specifically in this case against warr/druid. Yes my warrior and I can win shit warr/druid teams that dont protect the druid, or has a warrior that goes out of los of the druid long enough to be bursted down.
But above 1.9k, the teams dont make stupid mistakes like that anymore. The warrior can go for anyone really, either me or my partner. He just snares me no matter who hes killing, sunder x5 on the warrior usually, and pounds on him whole game. I cannot keep up with healing especially with druids playing the pillar game. Sooner or later I go oom first and we lose since I cant really reach the druid to keep up joj 24/7, and my warrior is taking heavy dmg and has to pull back a lot and eventually we lose.
Already on the verge of giving up but Id hate to do that since the warr is a RL friend. Can anyone help?
Def doable can get to 2200 with about 15-20 loss's,dont mind -20 point loss's, but -20 loss's and 10 min ques are fun=]
Sashia
03-13-2008, 01:23 PM
lol didnt expect my thread to go so many pages :p
meh already given up on 2v2 and trying ret in 3v3 and 5v5. Hella fun not getting cot spammed by locks and pwning mages/locks/druids.
Chesus
03-13-2008, 01:28 PM
Less QQ and more PewPew!
Gunni
03-13-2008, 01:44 PM
Def doable can get to 2200 with about 15-20 loss's,dont mind -20 point loss's, but -20 loss's and 10 min ques are fun=]
When you meet those lock/druid, hunter/druid, hunter/priest more than 15-20 times, i doubt it
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