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xergul
06-25-2009, 02:50 AM
Anyone in the beta know what the system requirements are like?
Aion looks graphically far superior to WOW and I'm wondering if that also means it requires a high end system

In WOW, I usually just play with all graphics settings at minimum except spell effects (particle density now) and get like 20-30 or more frames in a 25-man raid except for bosses like Hodir where its just a graphical shitstorm and then it's kind of like a slideshow or something. And I normally average 30+ frames in arenas with everything except spell detail turned down.

dhegin
06-25-2009, 02:57 AM
It actually seems less intense on my machine compared to WoW. The way you describe your WoW, your computer can definitely handle it on at least mid-high settings.

Just remember that I haven't done any massive-amount-of-player pvp nor am I doing any raid bosses or anything.

Iddqd
06-25-2009, 03:29 AM
It runs EXTREMELY well. I have everything on full and running at 90+ fps, whereas I run wow with mostly full but antialiasing turned way down at like 40.

I think you should be able to run it fine at med-low settings.

wmd221
06-25-2009, 05:14 AM
I suggest turning shadow detail all the way down, it gives you a massive fps increase and its just shadows.

Zanny
06-25-2009, 05:17 AM
To answer this thread, an 800 $ tower could probably run it maxxed out on a 22" lcd

Brumok
06-25-2009, 07:06 AM
I can run it without any lag (80+ fps, anytime) on max settings and 1680x1050.
This is on a:
E8400
4gb DDR3 RAM
Radeon HD 4870

Which I built myself 1 year ago for 700 euros (completely new, including motherboard/PSU etc.).
The price is even lower now, even such a rather tight budget system from a year ago can run it extremely well.

It seems to run extremely smooth and somehow less intense than WoW.

Liseda
06-25-2009, 12:45 PM
Lower than WoW i think, without anti-aliasing.

Zhbog
06-25-2009, 05:19 PM
I read it runs better and graphics are superior, but haven't actually beta'ed it yet. Will be first part of July.

Algrumm
06-25-2009, 05:22 PM
I get 90+ fps everywhere with maxxed out settings.
I sometimes dip down to 20 FPS in dalaran, if that gives you a comparative figure.

Bloodriot
07-04-2009, 08:23 PM
eh? Im at 60 fps every where in WoW with mid setings but on aion i got 30 fps with everything at minimum an windowed. What am i doing wrong :(

Crackslapper
07-04-2009, 08:26 PM
Yeah, I don't understand how or why, but my FPS is much higher than in WoW.

Baconfingers
07-04-2009, 10:55 PM
It runs better than wow, no joke. Must be their Asian magic. Their programmers are light-years ahead of Blizzard's. With AA off I can max out everything and still get 60-110 FPS while in WoW I have to turn terrain distance and object density down and lower shadows a bit and I still get only 30+ fps in Dalaran.

Blizzard is going to have to stop being lazy and update their engine. It's one of the most un-optimized engines still in use considering how Blizzard wants to use it.

Daub
07-04-2009, 11:59 PM
Actually the engine is not asian, it's from the same company that made Crysis, FarCry.

Baconfingers
07-05-2009, 12:02 AM
Actually the engine is not asian, it's from the same company that made Crysis, FarCry.

I know, but they still had to make that engine to fit an MMORPG. Considering that I can't run Crysis maxxed and get more than 40-50 FPS they have some hella good programmers if they can make it look that good and run so damn smooth.

Ruryk
07-05-2009, 12:05 AM
WoW just kills FPS, the engine is optimized really poorly.

Daub
07-05-2009, 12:16 AM
I know, but they still had to make that engine to fit an MMORPG. Considering that I can't run Crysis maxxed and get more than 40-50 FPS they have some hella good programmers if they can make it look that good and run so damn smooth.

You can't compare Crysis with Aion graphics though, obviously the less intensive the less the requirements. Aion looks great but the textures, models and environments are not nearly as expensive as Crysis. Obviously they had good programmers and designers to balance it out but it's mostly the engine's own scalability which allows for this.

Algrumm
07-05-2009, 01:45 AM
Actually the engine is not asian, it's from the same company that made Crysis, FarCry.

to help people understand this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/CryEngine_family_tree.png

:D

Zanny
07-05-2009, 01:56 AM
If you get over 40 fps in Dal in WoW you can max settings in Aion and have no lag anywhere except in your capital. Game runs extremely smooth and looks 5 times better than wow.

wmd221
07-05-2009, 02:04 AM
The only problem I have fps-wise with Aion is that in zones with very heavy texturing in 1 spot in an area will severely drop my fps as soon as I pan my camera to it. Like theres an area at the start of the Asmodaean area where theres a huge tree in the middle of a lake, and I'll be standing right in front of it and if I'm panned away I have 120 fps, and then as soon as I pan to the tree I drop straight to like 50-60 and I stutter for a few seconds.

I haven't really seen any areas in the abyss where this happens, which is the only place its really relevant, it just really irks me when it happens because I'd rather play at a more consistent fps where I won't get those spikes.

Zanny
07-05-2009, 07:33 AM
Upgrade your PC to something from 2005 and it runs fine without any lag spikes anywhere except in Pandemonium when you zone in to 500 people trying to sell shit right at the teleporter

Tremos
07-05-2009, 11:01 AM
Well to give you an idea, I ran WoW today and screwed around in some BG's. I get a max of 300 FPS in Stormwind, average probably of 150, with all settings at max (except shadows), and with some AA and AF. I get an average of around 90FPS in Aion with everything at max. Res set at 1680x1050 in both games.

Running with a q6600 @ 3.2ghz, and a gtx260


WoW just kills FPS, the engine is optimized really poorly.

You're fucking kidding right? WoW, and every other Blizzard game are the most optimized games ever designed, it's the main reason why soo many people play the game. Quality coding.

You will get lower FPS in Aion then in WoW, assuming you're using the same graphics setting (low, med or high), simple because WoW graphics are becoming dated.

Other thoughts: WoW only uses a maximum of 2 CPU cores. Aion uses all 4 of a quad processor to an extent. Overall CPU usage whilst playing Aion is around 30% for me when running around in the capital.

tldr: Aion requirements are definitely a few notches forward. People saying that the requirements are low, is because they're judging the games performance based on the lowbie content they've done. Believe me things will change in massive PvP and sieges.

Algrumm
07-05-2009, 04:10 PM
Well to give you an idea, I ran WoW today and screwed around in some BG's. I get a max of 300 FPS in Stormwind, average probably of 150, with all settings at max (except shadows), and with some AA and AF. I get an average of around 90FPS in Aion with everything at max. Res set at 1680x1050 in both games.

Running with a q6600 @ 3.2ghz, and a gtx260




You're fucking kidding right? WoW, and every other Blizzard game are the most optimized games ever designed, it's the main reason why soo many people play the game. Quality coding.

You will get lower FPS in Aion then in WoW, assuming you're using the same graphics setting (low, med or high), simple because WoW graphics are becoming dated.

Other thoughts: WoW only uses a maximum of 2 CPU cores. Aion uses all 4 of a quad processor to an extent. Overall CPU usage whilst playing Aion is around 30% for me when running around in the capital.

tldr: Aion requirements are definitely a few notches forward. People saying that the requirements are low, is because they're judging the games performance based on the lowbie content they've done. Believe me things will change in massive PvP and sieges.Take a step into a city that actually has people in it.

Crackslapper
07-05-2009, 04:17 PM
Painted backgrounds ftw?

Zanny
07-05-2009, 04:46 PM
You will get lower FPS in Aion then in WoW, assuming you're using the same graphics setting (low, med or high), simple because WoW graphics are becoming dated.

I get more fps by far in Pandemonium than I do in Dalaran by far. This is in the damn town square with 50+ scrubs spamming personal shops. I get around 60 fps there, and I only get 30 fps anywhere in dal.

Bloodriot
07-05-2009, 06:07 PM
I get more fps by far in Pandemonium than I do in Dalaran by far. This is in the damn town square with 50+ scrubs spamming personal shops. I get around 60 fps there, and I only get 30 fps anywhere in dal.

I dont get this. Im on literly the worst possible settings and getting like 50 FPS. 800x600 windowed, everything turned off or on minmum and this is in a questing arena, Pandeamodium (sp) i get like 15. Yet im ~60 FPS everywhere in WoW and can have 2 WoWs running both at like 40 fps.

dhegin
07-05-2009, 06:10 PM
Try updating drivers/directx

Bloodriot
07-05-2009, 06:16 PM
Try updating drivers/directx

done both :p

Prolly just play it for beta, wait for it to come out on release, keep my pre-order, if people fap over it, get some mega desktop (im on a laptop atm) and play it.

Brokenwings
07-05-2009, 09:40 PM
Consider this, in dal I get around 30 fps, and about 50fps everywhere else with max settings. In the Main Ellyos city I get around 60 fps, in questing areas I get around 100, up to 130 if i stand still On MAX settings!

Honestly it boggles my mind how I can get more fps with a game that has higher graphical standards.

wmd221
07-05-2009, 10:30 PM
As far as I can tell changing most graphics settings from high to low barely has an impact at all in Aion, same goes with Resolutions. The only graphical change thats resulted in a large increase was moving the shadow detail slider all the way down which is actually a really nice boost when you're around a lot of people.

Tremos
07-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Consider this, in dal I get around 30 fps, and about 50fps everywhere else with max settings. In the Main Ellyos city I get around 60 fps, in questing areas I get around 100, up to 130 if i stand still On MAX settings!

Honestly it boggles my mind how I can get more fps with a game that has higher graphical standards.

This is just weird. What is your hardware config? Maybe the game runs better for people with older hardware?

Take a step into a city that actually has people in it.

Ok that's true. But I do generally feel that if I was to measure average FPS when playing both games, WoW would definitely be ahead.

Pharaun
07-06-2009, 03:29 PM
done both :p

Prolly just play it for beta, wait for it to come out on release, keep my pre-order, if people fap over it, get some mega desktop (im on a laptop atm) and play it.You don't need a mega desktop to run Aion on max settings... you should be able to build one for $500~$700 (including all parts, monitor, case, etc).

Bloodriot
07-06-2009, 03:32 PM
You don't need a mega desktop to run Aion on max settings... you should be able to build one for $500~$700 (including all parts, monitor, case, etc).

Well, i cant build computers at all, and wouldnt no where to start. Didnt get this laptop that long ago and would prolly cost me £1000+ in the UK, which I dont have :(

Pharaun
07-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Well, i cant build computers at all, and wouldnt no where to start. Didnt get this laptop that long ago and would prolly cost me £1000+ in the UK, which I dont have :(Do you know anyone at all who could help you? It's a pretty valuable skill to have in terms of building better computers for less $. Once you get going, it's not too bad - there are only a small number of parts that need to go together. You should be able to find most of the resources necessary for assembling a computer online - guides, tutorials, etc.

Algrumm
07-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Oh, and the system requirements:
System Requirements

Minimum:

Pentium 4 2.8GHz, AMD Athlon 2800+; 1 GB RAM; GeForce 6600, Radeon X1550; Hard Drive 30GB; DirectX 9.0c(2008,6)

Recommended:

Pentium Dual Core, AMD Athlon 64 X2; 2 GB RAM; GeForce 7600, Radeon HD 2600; Hard Drive 30GB; DirectX 9.0c(2008,6)

They're almost identical to WOTLKs :/

Bloodriot
07-06-2009, 04:47 PM
Do you know anyone at all who could help you? It's a pretty valuable skill to have in terms of building better computers for less $. Once you get going, it's not too bad - there are only a small number of parts that need to go together. You should be able to find most of the resources necessary for assembling a computer online - guides, tutorials, etc.

Prolly do the research when I got the £$£$ :)