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Rogue (i switch specs but usually combat) + Resto Shaman (with 9600HP and all healing gems) + Affliction Warlock (41/1/19).
Here's what usually happens, we start to fight, I look up, and either the warlock or the shaman are dead EVERY TIME. It seems I can't even open up on someone before 1 of them is dead or near death. We got to 1920 last week but this week we are 9-15.
Warriors, destroy us.
Rogues, rape warlock or shaman instantly.
Any team with an interupt seems to shut down our shaman completely so he can't heal the warlock.
I've told them it's hopeless and that unless the warlock specs demo and the shaman gets some fucking stamina we will never pass 2000 (and 1900 is only if we're lucky). Personally I think resto shamans are just fucking useless trash in 3v3s and so are affliction locks. Someone tell me I'm wrong.
Twopointo
09-16-2007, 01:29 AM
You have a warlock.... It is not a stupid combo.
You have a warlock.... It is not a stupid combo.
You don't understand how fast this warlock dies. I honestly don't know if he's terrible or our healer is terrible or what. He drops like a bag of shit. This isn't a SL/SL warlock we're talking about here :P He DOES have 407 resilience tho :/
I really think shamans are just not good healers in 3v3s and that combined with the squishiness of our lock adds up to unsurvivable conditions.
Oowafas
09-16-2007, 01:40 AM
If the problem is him dying first consistently try forcing him to spec SL/SL?
Edit: Although, the problem could much more easily be a bad healer. To be fair, shaman are really easy to shut down though.
They are indeed easy to shut down and no CC doesn't help things either. He was SL/SL for a bit, but we're a PVE guild so he goes affliction for that :/ I'm the only one lucky enough to be able to pick up pvp viable talents and remain near 100% pve effectiveness with combat.
Gathund
09-16-2007, 02:13 AM
My old team was UA lock(me) frost mage resto shaman.
Hit 2267 mage transferred to PvE realm.
QQ QQ qq QQ QQ
Conradical
09-16-2007, 02:36 AM
Personally I think resto shamans are just fucking useless trash in 3v3s and so are affliction locks. Someone tell me I'm wrong.
hi
Personally I think resto shamans are just fucking useless trash in 3v3s and so are affliction locks. Someone tell me I'm wrong.
hi
Ok :P I should clarify and say instead, you would have to be amazingly good to make resto shaman + afflock work in 3v3s. You gotta admit, you're harder to heal than a demo lock and resto shamans can get shut down pretty easy.
With a shadow priest on your team you have a lot more CC at your disposal.
Fathertime/Ykoops
09-16-2007, 04:57 AM
I've run Lock/Resto Shamy/Rogue since S1.
Theres no reason you can't get above 2k w/ affliction, so long as you deserve to be above 2k. You just have to switch your play-style. When we went up against Warrior/Healer/X we always went for the warrior. Rogue stuns + affliction, add in a DC and an ES on the healer and the warrior dies.
That being said, affliction is much harder to play with this setup than felguard. We switched to felguard and got glad >_<. Again different play-styles. The warlock does a lot more fearing as felguard. Just figure out what works with you guys, the setup is not the problem. Like I said, find a spec for your warlock and adjust your play-style acordingly.
Rogue, SL lock, and resto shaman is one of the most versatile and well rounded 3v3 combos that exists. The #2 team on Shadowburn runs this setup, and they are usually at #1. If your lock is affliction then he's going to be pretty squishy.
Nitestrike
09-19-2007, 06:26 PM
My warlock got to 1900 3v3 rating about 2 weeks after it hit 70. And really, even when i was playing full S2 geared opponents, my lock in ~10 greens didn't die instantly.
I did, however, spec 24/37/0 and in about 30% of the games swapped my felhunter for a VW for the -10% physical damage. Several times i sac' VW for shield which sometimes got dispelled, yet re-summoned a new VW with fel domination. healer when playing was eitehr a priest or druid.
I'd like to add, we weren't exactly playing scrub teams either. We beat #2 in our battlegroup for 29 points. ^_^
Gannon
09-20-2007, 04:13 AM
Stupidest combo would be ret pally, enhance shammy and prot warrior
Dinadass
09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
If the warlock is dead-set on staying affliction and not respeccing between raids and arena every week, have him go 43/7/11 or some variant at least. The extra HP from Demonic Embrace and Improved Healthstone is worth it, and you can raid just fine without the 5% crit and extra range on destruction spells.
I sit at around 12.8k hp and 424 resilience in pvp gear unbuffed, and do just fine as affliction. What are your warlock's typical stats?
And if your partners are engaging before you are in position to immediately join in, they're doing it wrong. Have them stay mounted and out of combat until you are where you want to be, and then you can open on someone while the warlock applies DOTs and starts CCing. They both need to work on staying out of LOS when possible too from what it sounds like.
dont know about you but resto shamm with earth shield+haste....impossible to kill as a rogue
faced this aff lock, s priest , resto shamm team
we got owned, a good resto shamm with merc/correct gems are unstopable
Rhaegyn
09-26-2007, 10:02 PM
Stupidest combo would be ret pally, enhance shammy and prot warrior
3 prot warriors!
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