Title Calculator should be correct - Ruin 2v2 Data

[Wickler]

Link to current October 12th rankings ->
http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=46163

Ok since I'm really bored and I can't do 2s or 3s anymore and basically am just forced to watch the arena rankings move up and down, I'm gonna share my information I've been doing the last couple of days. All this information is based on the 2s in the Ruin Battlegroup

First started this off on Tuesday and I eventually got more data and I'll you guys decide yourselves on this Data.

Knowns: Calculator looks to be NOT including inactives in the ingaming ranking. This means that the cutoffs by the Calculator look to be correct.
202 Gladiators will be crowned this season on Ruin in 2v2.

These are all done by the Armory Pages, not the Ingame ranking. Remember the In game rankings should properly represent who gets gladiator and this is

On Tuesday I first did a check through
Out of the top 160 people, 40 were inactive.

Thursday I did a little more behind the scenes work.
1-20 3 Inactive
21-40 7 Inactive
41-60 10 Inactive
61-80 1 Inactive

1-80: 21 Inactive teams

Friday: added some more.
1-20 4 Inactive. Teams ranked 5,6,17,20 Inactive
21-40 7 Inactive. Teams ranked 24,26,27,29,35,35,39 Inactive
41-60 8 Inactive. Teams ranked 42,42,46,46,46,51,55,55 Inactive
61-80 2 Inactive. Teams ranked 63,75 Inactive.

21 Inactive

Monday:
1-20: 2 Inactive: 5,10
21-40: 7 Inactive: 24,28,31,33,36,39,39
41-60: 10 Inactive: 43,46,46,49,49,49,54,54,59,59
61-80: 2 Inactive: 66,77
81-100: 3 Inactive: 91,94,94
101-120: 8 Inactive: 107,107,113,113,113,113,113,113
121-140: 7 Inactive: 125,126,127,131,133,137,138
141-160: 1 Inactive: 151
161-180: 0 Inactive:
181-200: 4 Inactive: 181, 186, 187, 200
201-202: 1 Inactive: 202

45 Total Inactive

2200 == 113
Thats why a lot of those teams are considered inactive.



Now what this means is that the In-game ranking looks to be correct in terms of determining who is getting gladiator and who isn't. For the Armory, which people have been using to check recently on who is getting Gladiator and who isn't. That means that the cutoff for Armory for Ruin isn't 202, its currently at 247. And that doesn't include the possible inactives for the 203-247 Bracket.

[Wickler]

Also, when checking each different team, I saw some of the teams that were considered as "inactive" to not be included in the current rankings ingame. So that also helps my case that the in game ranking is correct in terms of figuring out the inactive teams not being included with the ingame ranking.

As you can see from these two rankings.

Currently at 2200, but not included in the In Game ranking because the person on the team is not in the PR requirement for the team to be ranked. One is 105 from the PR of the TR and the other is just a filler.

http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Azgalor&ts=2&t=I+Do+Not+Care&select=I+Do+Not+Care&fl=1
http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Mannoroth&ts=2&t=Diminoioioioiois&select=Diminoioioioiois&fl=1

Now here's a 2200 with the person still on the team, within the PR requirement.

http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Stormrage&ts=2&t=Kraftyy+Sux+at+RNG&select=Kraftyy+Sux+at+RNG&fl=1

They are still currently ranked in-game. So this also helps.

[Zeriel]

I like your profile icon.

[Anlore]

Nice work for doing all of that

[SeruAV]

TLDR version?

[Bruinink]

so what is the rating cut off as of now... anyone know ?

[Wickler]

TLDR version?

Calculator Looks accurate.

Possible lower rank requirement for Gladiator since the calculator is going by in game ranking and it already factors in the inactive teams that Armory does include.

[skitt]

rank 202 is 2085

rank 247 is 2067

^TLDR cuttoffs?

[nubmadri]

are you sure the current AJ listed cutoff of rank 202(?) for ruin is calculated based on the total number of active teams x 0.005, or just the total number of teams x 0.005

[Wickler]

are you sure the current AJ listed cutoff of rank 202(?) for ruin is calculated based on the total number of active teams x 0.005, or just the total number of teams x 0.005

If you look at the lowest arena team on the BG and find the player that has the PR within the 100 PR limit, you get this guy.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Roflomglolgg

When you hover you mouse over the 2v2 rating, his ranking is 40502. This is the in game ranking that he has. My current in game ranking that I have is 48th which was calculated last Tuesday and will change tomorrow when it updates on October 7th.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Wickleer

You can see that I have 48th right now, but 67th currently since the Armory does include the inactive teams as part of the ranking system.

Remember this numbers should change with the ranking change on Tuesday.

[Wickler]

My last checking of the inactive teams was eariler today. There were around 20 teams ahead of me. So I should stay around the same rank in game, so I'm guessing I'll be in the 45-50th Ranked area tomorrow.

One more thing

http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Arthas&ts=2&t=FAYD+IS+HORRIBLE&select=FAYD+IS+HORRIBLE&fl=1

This is a team that is right now deemed "Active" as of tonight October 6th at 10:56PM PST with playing 7 games this last week.

This team should be considered inactive for the next in rank checking (since there are no more players within a 100 PR of the team) and if it is inactive and doesn't have a rank tomorrow, then I believe my system is correct.

[Slilent]

good work, congratulations, well done mate.

[zzat]

Indeed awesome job if your method is right we should get Gladiator :D

[nubmadri]

If you look at the lowest arena team on the BG and find the player that has the PR within the 100 PR limit, you get this guy.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Roflomglolgg

When you hover you mouse over the 2v2 rating, his ranking is 40502. This is the in game ranking that he has. My current in game ranking that I have is 48th which was calculated last Tuesday and will change tomorrow when it updates on October 7th.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lothar&n=Wickleer

You can see that I have 48th right now, but 67th currently since the Armory does include the inactive teams as part of the ranking system.

Remember this numbers should change with the ranking change on Tuesday.


are you sure that the hover-over rank is the in-game rank as well as opposed to the armory rank? i dont have any data on myself since my teams are all new... guess i'll find out in a couple of hours

[Wickler]

are you sure that the hover-over rank is the in-game rank as well as opposed to the armory rank? i dont have any data on myself since my teams are all new... guess i'll find out in a couple of hours

It was for me the last few weeks when I first noticed it.

[Bruinink]

k im 2100 i'll be pushing harder... but as is.. is 2100 getting glad ?

[zzat]

Getting Gladiator without shoulder isn't cool!

[Wickler]

Anything could happen, cutoffs could be at around 2200, but its not likely anymore since of the lack of movement of last week. This week we could see a big increase but Arena is a semi Zero-Sum system. For every Win, there is an Equal Loss. There is a chance that all those 2000-2100 teams could win around 100-150 rating from all the people below them.

The main reason this isn't going to happen is that all the people at the 2300 bracket level are rerolling their teams, meaning an overall decrease of rating of the bracket.

Example.

2300 Team decides to reroll.
2300 becomes 1500.

1500 Team that is really 2300 gets back up to 2300. All those teams that the 2300 faced are now lower then they were. Add in about 20-50 teams that are all gonna try to do this at the same time this week == Chaos.

AKA This week is going to be hell for you most likely if you are pushing towards 2200.

And this could be the last week you can make a good push to 2200 if everyone in the 2200+ quits or reroll their teams over and over and over until wrath comes out.

[Wickler]

Just got my figure in game, I'm currently at rank 57 in game. Now begins the fun task of figuring out which teams were included in the in game ranking system.

[Varastus]

56 by ingame honor tab, 64 on armory. US shadowburn. just something else to look at if you need more info

[Spoots]

3 teams above me are inactive if that helps you sir :D

[Wickler]

3 teams above me are inactive if that helps you sir :D

That actually does, will help me isolate the teams that are inactive and those are not because I remember at that level you have Dimu's Team, Docter Acula, Creeping Mold and No Dice #1 are all above that rank you got and all 4 are not qualified for gladiator currently.

Doesn't even include all the teams that could potentially not get gladiator. I have my figures at home, I just remember those 4 teams off the top of my head when I saw your ranking.

[Wickler]

Ok so since the In game rankings were NOT changed yet on the Armory page, but using Spoot's Spot as a placeholder, I got some new info.

On the Armory Page there is 6 teams ahead of him that are currently ?????? on activity and what Blizzard determines if these teams are inactive or not. Here they are.

1) Rank 6 2361 Fayd is horrible:
No players on the team Was ranked last week and played 9 games.

2) Rank 9 2334 No Dice:
1 Player at 1500 with no games played Was ranked last week

3) Rank 22 2255 Doctur Aculaa:
1 Player at 1500 with no games played Was not ranked last week

4) Rank 27 2241 AJOlympicslolsigh:
1 Player at 1856 over 20% played Was ranked last week

5) Rank 30 2226 Creeping Mold:
1 Player at 1999 over 20% played Was ranked last week

6) Rank 32 2225 Its me DIMU:
1 player at 1654 under 20% played Was not ranked last week

Spoots is currently ranked 33 on the armory and were you ranked at #30 in game from last week Spoots?


Now what this tells me is that both #4 and #5 are considered "Active." However, there is no player on the team that can qualify for the Gladiator ranking, so these teams should fall off, but they are still considered "Active"

#1 and #2 are a tricky cases since they did play games last week, and until we get the new standings updated, we don't know if they were included with the ranking, but it looks like one of these teams was included and one of them is not.

[Spoots]

yep, rank 30 in game... weird. Everything you said makes sense about the inactive teams and such... now im just plain confused

[Wickler]

No Dice wasn't ranked while Fayd is horrible did get ranked.

So its a 1 week process where a team is transfered from active to inactive. Since Fayd is horrible did have games played last week, it got included into this weeks rankings. No Dice however didn't.

No Dice is right above RhOzInNaTeD REBORN LOL K

RhOzInNaTeD REBORN LOL K is now ranked 10th on Armory and got a 9th ranking in game.

Fayd is horrible is at a rank 6 currently in game even though that won't be included in the final countings since it has to wait a week to cleanup? I dunno if this is true or not.

[Wickler]

The armory and in game ranking should be right about even until you get to Rhoz's team because No Dice is right in front of it. Then you slowly see everything break up a bit.

[Badjujus]

you so lost me this last page /cry

im 2100 ingame rank 159. Also 185th on armory... you think im safe for glad?

And how are you counting teams that are tied?

[Divel]

my armory rank and in game rank are the same, does that mean they are both accurate or what? I know for a fact that there are 2 teams ahead of me that are inactive, we're rank 14 at 2090 (2087) in 5v5.

[Wickler]

you so lost me this last page /cry

im 2100 ingame rank 159. Also 185th on armory... you think im safe for glad?

And how are you counting teams that are tied?

To explain about the inactives, a team won't go inactive until it has no players on the team and a week has gone by with no one on the team has a total 20% activity for the entire season.

I don't think you are safe. Expect tons of movement this week from new teams all the way up to the 2200s.

The tied teams I'm just keeping little notes on the indiviual teams on my notepad

[Wickler]

my armory rank and in game rank are the same, does that mean they are both accurate or what? I know for a fact that there are 2 teams ahead of me that are inactive, we're rank 14 at 2090 (2087) in 5v5.

I dunno, I'm just trying to look at ruin 2v2.

Not gonna answer any other questions about other brackets. Remember these are only theories and its very hard to keep up with different BGs brackets and what not.

[Katizforfite]

Current update of my situation....hope this helps your cause further.

I found someone on my server who had the previous lowest rating on AJ. His armory seen here:

3v3 rating 1181:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Antonidas&n=Azeton

However, AJ has an even lower ranking team now:

3v3 rating 1021
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nordrassil&n=Moneymakr

The 1021 team is shown on the armory as 5795.

However, this week now I spoke to the person with the 1181 team and his IN GAME ranking was 5914. Last week it was 5400 or something or 5200 in game I can't remember.

So as for an in game ranking, I have a feeling that the 1021 rating is probably over 6,000 now.

So by your theory am I right to assume that the bubble has slightly increased by about 1 team or so?

Edit: My warrior's team was updated to 22nd today, previously it was 37th in game (But on armory it was 27th).

I have a feeling that the calculations are only accurate directly after a reset and not later in the week because it doesn't change.

Another note: I counted roughly 10-11 teams in front of me in the armory as inactive. I'm ranked 27th in the armory and I should be 16th/17th in game right? Or maybe armory just isn't showing us something.

[Almehym]

Zomg Divel! Get out of my new (amazing btw) BG discussion thread!

By the way, are we really thinking that 2200 will be required for Gladiator this season? At 2134 as of reset, I got 126th in game. I've never been in contention this late in the season so I don't know exactly how the last few days of a season go, but I have had an AWFUL time playing games with anyone even close to my rating, so it doesn't seem like much inflation is going on at the top end of the BG at all.

How frenetic is the push at the last couple days? It seems to me that most teams at 2200 already aren't going to be doing much of any games from now until the end of the week, and it doesn't seem as if too many teams are making much of a push from 2000-2200 right now either.

[Divel]

alm <33333

hows it goin, nice pve gear scrub.....

Also, if i were you I'd aim for 30-40 more pts for glad, I do not think 2200 will be it, but the upper 2100s (2150-60ish calling it close) would probablly mark the cut off.
my opinion push a little harder! plus we all know rogue/rogue (with pve gear!) is all about the comp you play, and not skill at all :D.

[Wickler]

Edit: My warrior's team was updated to 22nd today, previously it was 37th in game (But on armory it was 27th).

I have a feeling that the calculations are only accurate directly after a reset and not later in the week because it doesn't change.

Another note: I counted roughly 10-11 teams in front of me in the armory as inactive. I'm ranked 27th in the armory and I should be 16th/17th in game right? Or maybe armory just isn't showing us something.

Well thats teh thing. You are ranked in game at 22 and you counted around 10-11 people that have teams with a bunch of 1500 standins or people that didn't make the requirement.

See what I'm saying is that those 5-6 teams that weren't included in this last checkin, those teams were playing games last week, so the in game ranking considers them active even though those players left the team.

[Mizzle]

on October 7th my 2v2 team on Reckoning is ranked 164th (in game) with 2078 rating.

ArenaJunkies calculator says the top 188 teams will get gladiator

we're at 2095 right now, and my question is why wouldn't that be safe for gladiator based on the information given above. 2078 rating & 164th rank. now at 2095

[Wickler]

on October 7th my 2v2 team on Reckoning is ranked 164th (in game) with 2078 rating.

ArenaJunkies calculator says the top 188 teams will get gladiator

we're at 2095 right now, and my question is why wouldn't that be safe for gladiator based on the information given above. 2078 rating & 164th rank. now at 2095

Because you are gonna see about 40-50 teams show up this weekend/monday most likely.

[Maplestory]

Well assuming that AJ's calculator is infact correct that the top 202 teams will get gladiator which it is, then the ranking on armory is definatly wrong. Since armory doesn't show inactive teams and the only way you can get an accurate rating is by either doing A.) Sifting through armory basically what Wickleer did. and B.) Look at your arena ranking through your armory tag in game. Currently my team ranked 121 is at 2138. I'm not sure if this will get gladiator or not and if it doesn't hold out through my assumptions of what will happen the last week then I will push. But thinking through the theory that AJ's calculator didn't factor in inactive teams then the rank is completely off. Thus if we use Wickleer's information the cut off would be rank 247 since it would then fall into position of the rank 202 team. Might sound confusing but if a team is ranked inactive then the team the next team that follows the criteria will fall into its place. So thinking that if the top 202 teams will get gladiator, the rating you would have to look at is ~rank 24Xs.

As for teams playing the last moment, you are correct about the zero sum theory. Teams that have gladiator at the moment, majority being in the ~2200 region will not play just because they have secured their gladiator and there is no point for them to continue playing at all unless they wish to go for brutal gladiator. The week is still fresh and yes your ranking will drop quite a bit but I don't believe it will be such a drastic change since if the teams ~2200 don't que then there will only be A.) 2300+ teams queing for brutal gladiator and B.) 2000 ~ 2100 rating teams queing trying to make the break for 2200. This is the same problem that rerolls will face as well they won't believe able to get teams around their rating unless they farm 2000 ~ 2100 rated teams all the way to their "ideal" rating which everyone believes to be 2200. So basically what I'm saying is that I don't think that the ranks will change quite as drastic as you say, ~40 - 50 ranks dropping in one week is quite a large guess even for the end of the season. For 50 ranks to get to 2200 then the majority of the 2100 rating teams will have to que up and lose alot. Thus if those 2100 rated players lose then they would have been knocked out of the gladiator pool and the team would take its place making ~50 rating change obscure in my mind.

Guess I got carried away there with no spacing, but those are my thoughts on the current situation.

Edit: I also think the calculator can be quite off at the moment because it is predicting that there are less teams playing during s4 than s3 (40k vs 50k). I find that very hard to believe since as time goes on more teams play. Thus I think that the amount of teams getting gladiator is actually greater than 202 teams. Just because of the mere fact that there SHOULD be more teams in the arena system during s4 than s3.

[Tabbycat]

dude you're paranoid about this gladiator title....

[Wickler]

dude you're paranoid about this gladiator title....

Eh more bored. I don't have teams to play with anymore.

And I'm not paranoid anymore. Last week I was though.

And I was actually quite intrigued. Yes I'm probably going to get Gladiator but if I could help shape up and define so we get a good calculator that is near perfect in terms of prediction, then I did a good investigative analysis.

[Almehym]

Rightly paranoid in my case, I think. I haven't had the opportunity to get this close in any other season, and if I can improve my chances by either playing or not playing, I want to do so.

And Divel, you shush! I'm the only one with PvE gear on the team anyway. It takes a lot of skill to dodge paladin and shaman teams....

If the math works out right, I'll consider hanging up this team until the end of season snapshot, as over 2150 would be fine by me as long as it nets me a title/mount. If 2200 is a must, I'll push because my partner really wants his shoulders asap, but I'd rather preach patience if it's better for the long run.


I'm still having a little trouble getting my head around this whole inactive team thing and rush of playing at the end of season thing. What I'm gathering is that because there are so many inactive teams, there may not really be 202 Gladiator teams from the BG (assuming the total number of teams including inactives is about 40k). However, since many of the top teams are also inactive (perhaps a greater percentage due to so few teams being over 2100 anyway) a rating in the top 200 may end up being bumped up, and therefore worthy of Gladiator.

Additionally, while there may be a lot of jockeying for end-of-season rating/titles, most of it can be safely assumed to be in the 2100 and lower levels, such that a team at 2150 wouldn't see more than 5 or 10 teams at most leapfrogging them, which isn't nearly enough to push the ranking below the Gladiator level.

Does it sound like I have that correct?

[Wickler]

I'm still having a little trouble getting my head around this whole inactive team thing and rush of playing at the end of season thing. What I'm gathering is that because there are so many inactive teams, there may not really be 202 Gladiator teams from the BG (assuming the total number of teams including inactives is about 40k). However, since many of the top teams are also inactive (perhaps a greater percentage due to so few teams being over 2100 anyway) a rating in the top 200 may end up being bumped up, and therefore worthy of Gladiator.

Additionally, while there may be a lot of jockeying for end-of-season rating/titles, most of it can be safely assumed to be in the 2100 and lower levels, such that a team at 2150 wouldn't see more than 5 or 10 teams at most leapfrogging them, which isn't nearly enough to push the ranking below the Gladiator level.

Does it sound like I have that correct?

Yes you got it correct. I just feel that 5 to 10 teams is a bit low, I'm guessing there will be a lot more, but thats just my feelings/paranoia.

[Dias]

So just to do some research to get a feel for some people on this calculator/in game rankings.

I looked at the Emberstorm 3v3 bracket and currently in game it says my 3v3 is ranked 17th and on the armory it says 21st, so i cycled through every team and made a list of what teams are active meaning 1 or more person on the team within 150 pr and games played.

After i finished cycling through it my list showed our team at rank 9th, i rechecked and am sure now that the calculator is correct or the armory is wrong.

Just wanted to give some insight and see if anyone has done this?, i know it might not be as easy seeing as Estorm 3's is really terrible and small lol.

[Knoxs]

@Wickler
Have you considered that Server transfers could be the Problem?

Yesterday my 2v2 Team was #118 on the armory... i was a little bit bored so i clicked all Teams between #1 and #117 to see how many teams are inactive. I used the criterias that Blizzard officially posted (PR 100 within TR, 20% of total Games) and I counted 26 inactive Teams.
Due to your theory (which is mostly right i think) my new ingame rank after maintenance should have been #92 but it was only #107.
Now what i think is that people who servertransfer without leaving their teams create something like a "Ghostteam" which is considered active by the rankingsystem although there aren't any players in it who fulfill the criterias.

For example:
The #1 ranked Team has a rating of 2500 and both players in it have a personal rating of 2500. They decide to go to a more competetive battlegroup so they simply invite someone to their team (who has a pr of 1500 and 0% games played) and do a server transfer to another battlegroup. The team will only have the player with 1500 pr in it but it will still be considered active since both players with 2500 pr never really left the team.

I also heard about people who did a servertransfer and got a title although they weren't in a team on their new server.

A few examples of teams of which i'm quite sure that the players transfered without leaving their team:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Gul%27dan&ts=3&t=Shield+Specialization&select=Shield+Specialization&fl=1
It's one of my older 3v3 teams and i gave it to my warrior alt because we didn't want to delete it. My warrior is obviously the only one in the team, has 0% games played and has a 1500 PR so the team should be considered inactive.
BUT it has a ingameranking because the warlock we used to play in this team left the server a few weeks ago without leaving the team before. He had 100% Games played and 1956 TR. So it still counts as a active team.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Gul%27dan&ts=3&t=Schwabe+hatte+Disc&select=Schwabe+hatte+Disc&fl=1
It's a team of someone on my server. There was a shaman in it who left the server. There is nobody in the team but still it got ranked.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Gul%27dan&ts=3&t=Edelstoff&select=Edelstoff&fl=1
Another older Team of mine. There is no one within 100 points of the teamrating and no one in this team has left the server. So it's simply inactive and didn't get ranked.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&ts=2&t=growltoow&select=growltoow&fl=1
The team of the last seasons' vengefuls on my battlegroup who transfered to another bg early this season. There is nobody in the team yet it got ranked last week. I'm quite sure they didn't leave the team before transfering.


So the ingameranking filters out inactive teams and the calculator on AJ should be quite accurate although there are a few of these "ghostteams" which are inactive but not filtered out. But in the end you will get your Gladiator mount if your ingameranking is within the rating AJ predicts.
The only question left is if these "Ghostteams" will be considered inactive next week when blizzard gives away the gladiatormounts or if they will still count as active teams. If they count as inactive a few more people will get their drake if not a bit less people will get it :)

[Wickler]

I dunno if that is a good route to go but its possible.

There's tons of new information here guys, need a chance to figure out what determines a team to be deemed inactive or active.

There's tons of info and a lot of leads if someone else wants to jump and see if they find a good pattern, but make sure you understand the current path that we are on.

[Katizforfite]

I know GMs are wrong sometimes but this is what was said....

He said in game is 100% correct and that the list style rankings on armory are in still worked on and sometimes not updated.

Every Tuesday the in game rankings should be 100% correct and do not include inactive teams. They update weekly obviously and the armory list should only serve as a temporary estimate until the next week updates and your in game rank is refreshed.

So the armory list isn't completely correct I guess. Because as I said before, my team is 27th on list but has like 10-11 inactive teams in front of us.

However, I still think some of them are considered active in game for a reason or another. Maybe has something to do with "ghosting" teams as was suggested before. So we are shown as 22nd in game. Maybe that will change next week.

Another note:

For 3v3 in my battlegroup I just relinked the team to arenajunkies and it updates from 5700ish to 5992. I suspected this would happen as I asked a person who was ranked 1181 what their "in game" rank was and they told me 5900 or something. So I assumed a team under them dropped as well.


I also updated ruins 3v3 for you guys and it went up a little bit so I think it expanded the bubble a little bit.

@ Diias, I think my team is 5 spots under you in the ladder and I think at 17th you should be fine for gladiator. I only think it could get better too with these ghosting teams being eliminated by next week's calculation (hopefully). Also, I updated 3v3 to expand gladiator by 1 more team.

[Katizforfite]

TLDR version.

Every tuesday after reset, your in game calculation should be correct. As well as your hover over ranking.

Your list ranking does not take into account active/inactive teams however.

There are exceptions that we are still trying to figure out such as teams still considered active in game that we know aren't.

[Crystil]

The discrepancy when your checking for active teams above you on the ladder to see what your actual ranking is etc that has been done in this thread comes because your looking for teams within 100pr and 20% activity, this is the qualifiers for gladiator, not for if a team is active or not. ( the 100pr is the important thing for this)

So if there are teams like this above you in the ladder, they will get an ingame rank, however when the titles are decided they will be skipped over.

Those teams cause small shifts in the numbers, that is what you are seeing, if you just check for active teams, i.e exclude all teams with either no players or 1 player with 1500 pr 0 games played etc, then your figures will match up.

[Dappa]

Yeah, I counted 6 inactive teams above me on Armory, but my ingame rank is 28 and Armory rank is 31. So theres a 3 rank difference between Armory and ingame in my case.

[zzat]

Well it looks like that ruins title calculator just went up from 202 to 208 which I think is a good thing but werid.

[Nekos123]

wuts the cutoff for Brutal Gladiator

??

[Almehym]

Ha?

[zzat]

wuts the cutoff for Brutal Gladiator

??

You have to be ranked one (first) on any bracket on your battlegroup

[Drmoo]

wuts the cutoff for Brutal Gladiator

??

You have to be ranked 1 1/2 exactly. Not 1 or 2, but 1.5.

[Kaliptus]

Awesome thread. Upon checking armory today I saw that are ~45 inactive teams from rank 1 to 223 (224th being our rank atm at 2093 rating). If you take these teams out my ranking would be actually 179th...so, my question is, would 2093 at this point (sunday 10/12/2008) get gladiator tuesday?

Thanks. :)