The "Horde" effect & Warhammer

[Levidian]

Every post I see talking about Order/Destruction is something along these lines.


"Order is outnumbered X to X"
"We steam roll destruction all day on my server"
"If you're good at PvP roll order"

Do you think over time the same thing will happen that happened in WoW?

It used to be that horde had a higher concentration of good players and alliance had a higher concentration of "lol pretty elves" kids, but recently that trend has shifted and horde seems to have a higher density of "bads" for lack of a better word. I used to be able to force a win in a BG by myself but lately unless I go in with 2-3 good friends its really hard to win a BG just from how horrible the horde pugs are and how horrible their gear is.

I can see over time a huge migration from destruction to order under the same mindset that caused an influx from bad players from alliance to horde.

Players will reroll order in the coming months in an effort to "be good" because they're on "the good faction".

It seems the different between order and destro is shaping up to be much more lopsided than destro/order so this migration might happen relatively quickly.

What do you guys think?

[Duckers]

RvR - Order: 10646, Destruction: 22717, Ratio = 1:2.1
RvR-RP - Order: 1498 , Destruction: 2251 , Ratio = 1:1.5
RP - Order: 9829 , Destruction: 10446, Ratio = 1:1.1
Core - Order: 47838, Destruction: 67162, Ratio = 1:1.4

Interesting numbers, I guess.

[Magdain]

RvR - Order: 10646, Destruction: 22717, Ratio = 1:2.1


lmfao

[Levidian]

RvR - Order: 10646, Destruction: 22717, Ratio = 1:2.1
RvR-RP - Order: 1498 , Destruction: 2251 , Ratio = 1:1.5
RP - Order: 9829 , Destruction: 10446, Ratio = 1:1.1
Core - Order: 47838, Destruction: 67162, Ratio = 1:1.4

Interesting numbers, I guess.


Wasn't there the same situation when WoW was released with huge alliance population imbalances across most of the realms?

Anyway look out for a huge mass of scrub destro kids to reroll order.

[vexo]

Destruction seem really immature from the rvr's I've done.

[keLston]

Order doesn't seem much better tho tbh or maybe I just get unlucky and always get the lulzhellsing kids.

[Raynhard]

"Horde Effekt"? What are you talking about? I can't see neither a horde, nor an alliance dominance.

http://www.wowprogress.com/
http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-ladder.xml?b=Cyclone&ts=2&p=1&sf=rank&sd=a (You can observe it on any battlegroup)

Hard to understand, where this myth comes from.

[Levidian]

"Horde Effekt"? What are you talking about? I can't see neither a horde, nor an alliance dominance.

http://www.wowprogress.com/
http://www.wowarmory.com/arena-ladder.xml?b=Cyclone&ts=2&p=1&sf=rank&sd=a (You can observe it on any battlegroup)

Hard to understand, where this myth comes from.

So the top is relatively equal your point?

I'm talking about skill vs player density. It's the reason I can take my hunter into an EoTS go 65-5 do 10x the damage of anyone else and defend a tower 2v5-7 and my team still loses. I don't know about your BG but I have to go into a battle group with 2-3 people usually just to overcome how bad horde pugs are on stormstrike. Skill dispersion among the general population (not the arena elite) is what controls your win/loss ratio in battlegrounds, and I've noticed quite the swing over the last couple years where the general ability of the general horde pop has greatly diminished and the alliance population has either grown stronger or stayed the same.

[Levidian]

As far as warhammer goes if all the destro "kiddies" see that order keeps smashing them over a period of time they will re roll just like what happened on wow. Alliance used to dominate almost all the population charts now it seems like its either equal or horde favored for most.

[Avast]

It's all the wannabe Drizzt Do'Urden fgts that are sick of playing as Legolas in WoW...

[vexo]

In wow right now the ratio is Alliance 1.1: Horde 1

[Vadren]

It's all the wannabe Drizzt Do'Urden fgts that are sick of playing as Legolas in WoW...

This.

[Fatalis2]

I haven't seen that much of a problem with it dark craig is about 50/50 in t3 and t2 scenarios.

[Teddymonster]

I haven't seen that much of a problem with it dark craig is about 50/50 in t3 and t2 scenarios.

but at the same time it seems like Order controls every keep at all times on dark crag except for the avelorn one :(