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juventino_hero
11-24-2007, 09:41 PM
Yo, ill get straight down to business, currently play hutner-drood-lock, hover around 2100+, but next season want to try out priest-mage-hunter

Was wondering if anyone who plays this set-up (i know a few of you do :P) could give me some advice about the strats against certain combo's you use and the general plan for the team is in terms of drain target and other things (eg against priest-mage-rogue, drain priest or mage first)

and yeh, any help would be greatly appreciated <3

Treisk
11-24-2007, 11:52 PM
There's no beating around the bush here, that team is 100% better off with a Rogue over a Hunter. :/

juventino_hero
11-25-2007, 01:20 AM
There's no beating around the bush here, that team is 100% better off with a Rogue over a Hunter. :/

tell that to "yea we lift" :P

given, they were dwarves, BUT STILL! rawr!

Speedo
11-25-2007, 01:44 AM
I run that combo and after the hunter changes its an extremely viable and competitive makeup to hold top 10 :)

juventino_hero
11-25-2007, 02:18 AM
I run that combo and after the hunter changes its an extremely viable and competitive makeup to hold top 10 :)

well gimme some clue's you op gnome!

Kyoht
11-25-2007, 09:36 PM
Hey Bulrug, sorry it took so long to respond after you asked for advice in that other thread! But I got you covered bud:
http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=3868

juventino_hero
11-26-2007, 12:00 AM
Hey Bulrug, sorry it took so long to respond after you asked for advice in that other thread! But I got you covered bud:
http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=3868

haha thanks so much man, about to read it now, seems great! :D

Bunbohue
11-26-2007, 02:24 PM
tell that to "yea we lift" :P

given, they were dwarves, BUT STILL! rawr!

Orc Blood Fury removes 5 stacks of wound poison which is kinda like stoneform >_>

Coltprod
11-27-2007, 05:54 AM
I play Hunter/Mage/Druid atm and plan to switch out the mage for a warlock. What don't you like about the Hunter/Lock/Druid combo?

juventino_hero
11-27-2007, 07:06 AM
I play Hunter/Mage/Druid atm and plan to switch out the mage for a warlock. What don't you like about the Hunter/Lock/Druid combo?

I love the combo, but my drood doesant like 3's, especially drain combo's ie hunter-lock-drood (he finds them boring grrrrrrr)

UD Rogue - UD Mage - UD priest combo's post 2.3 are really tough to beat though wth drood-lock-hunter, maybe were not taking the right approach, but when they switch to the drood and pop every cooldown known to man, and use their damn wotf + fear ward, they just totally tear up my druid, and he is a great kiter. =[

Oggy
11-27-2007, 07:16 AM
Hunter/Druid/Lock is a very very strong team. I've played it for about half of S2. I've also played Hunter/Mage/Priest. Both are good teams, but Hunter/Druid/Lock has such better CC, and draining capability's that it can counter a lot more teams than Mage/Priest can.

Honkinstine
11-29-2007, 02:30 AM
I am going to be trying out Hunter/Druid/Lock for S3. Looking forward to it although Mage/Hunter/Priest is looking more and more appealing.

Wonder
11-29-2007, 12:41 PM
http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Ursin&ts=3&t=CANNON+TOWERS&select=CANNON+TOWERS

My team gave them 3 wins last night. Roll a char on Ursin and ask them if you must, cause they have their stuff down.

Plops aka pewpewlazers
11-29-2007, 02:46 PM
Hunter/lock/druid > hunter/mage/priest any way you slice it IMO. Druid + lock is far stronger than just mage for control vs any team with a rogue (fearspam + cyclone + abolish poison + roots > polymorph). I'd say it's about even for warrior team control (cannot fear them but still retaining roots and cyclones).

However, the lock can do consistant insane mana pressure by tab dotting up 2 targets the entire fight (healer and the caster dps class), and has freedom to follow the enemy healer around and channel mana drains almost the entire fight, since they will almost exclusively be always attacking the hunter. Landing aimed whenever possible is still important to gimp the priest/druid's HoT effeciency.

Even if they are able to kill the scorpid (which usually costs them a large chunk of health and mana to pull off), there is still the felhunter on the healer, so he isn't drinking regardless.

So you can have quick wins with good aim shots and sure wins through draining mana. It is an extreme hard counter to dual healer + melee, does very well against the "golden trio" (mage/priest/rogue) and is only weak against tri caster gib from my experience with it so far.

I'll write more about it later on in the season after I can play it more. Just started but already 26-6 with 3 DC's =)

Opel
11-29-2007, 02:58 PM
hunter/mage/priest really isnt worth the trouble to learn, i played it to 2352 and its probably the most frustrating thing ever running into teams that are impossible to beat, at least without stoneform. id go hunter/druid/lock or hunter/warrior/paladin.

Kyoht
11-30-2007, 04:38 AM
I hit Glad with my Hunter/Priest/Mage combo, and I'm never jumping on the Hunter/Druid/Lock bandwagon -- Not just because I'm stubborn, but because our team has yet to run into a combo that we just cannot beat (Combo, not team. Of course we're going to run into individual teams that either take us off guard or outplay us). I'm not sure what impossible teams Opel is talking about, because I've yet to see one in my experience.

It IS a difficult combo to master, and if you or your teammates don't have patience, it's not going to work.

Oggy
11-30-2007, 06:59 AM
I hit Glad with my Hunter/Priest/Mage combo, and I'm never jumping on the Hunter/Druid/Lock bandwagon -- Not just because I'm stubborn, but because our team has yet to run into a combo that we just cannot beat (Combo, not team. Of course we're going to run into individual teams that either take us off guard or outplay us). I'm not sure what impossible teams Opel is talking about, because I've yet to see one in my experience.

It IS a difficult combo to master, and if you or your teammates don't have patience, it's not going to work.

uh, what rating did you guys get to? because I've never seen you before.

Kyoht
11-30-2007, 07:11 PM
uh, what rating did you guys get to? because I've never seen you before.

Maybe because we're not on the same Battlegroup? :P

Oggy
12-01-2007, 05:03 AM
Maybe because we're not on the same Battlegroup? :P

I'm retarded... I read that as Cyclone ><

Opel
12-01-2007, 05:16 AM
I hit Glad with my Hunter/Priest/Mage combo, and I'm never jumping on the Hunter/Druid/Lock bandwagon -- Not just because I'm stubborn, but because our team has yet to run into a combo that we just cannot beat (Combo, not team. Of course we're going to run into individual teams that either take us off guard or outplay us). I'm not sure what impossible teams Opel is talking about, because I've yet to see one in my experience.

It IS a difficult combo to master, and if you or your teammates don't have patience, it's not going to work.

well you are right, there never really was a certain "combo," if thats what you want to call it, that we couldnt beat besides druid/lock/rogue (it is possible, we have done it vs good teams, but its just not worth the effort). im talking about running into double lock/healer teams or druid/lock teams in general that just give us trouble. still got 2352 with it and we did beat the only druid/lock/hunter team we ever ran in to (hi ponies! <3)

Oggy
12-01-2007, 06:20 AM
well you are right, there never really was a certain "combo," if thats what you want to call it, that we couldnt beat besides druid/lock/rogue (it is possible, we have done it vs good teams, but its just not worth the effort). im talking about running into double lock/healer teams or druid/lock teams in general that just give us trouble. still got 2352 with it and we did beat the only druid/lock/hunter team we ever ran in to (hi ponies! <3)


We didn't have our normal lock. The lock we played with hadn't been SL/SL in about a year+. I demand a rematch :(

nerfskill
12-01-2007, 06:32 AM
well you are right, there never really was a certain "combo," if thats what you want to call it, that we couldnt beat besides druid/lock/rogue (it is possible, we have done it vs good teams, but its just not worth the effort). im talking about running into double lock/healer teams or druid/lock teams in general that just give us trouble. still got 2352 with it and we did beat the only druid/lock/hunter team we ever ran in to (hi ponies! <3)


I was mia for a week and they replaced me :C i'd love to play against you guys with our regular players

Hunter lock druid is amazing imo

Kyoht
12-01-2007, 07:26 AM
I'm retarded... I read that as Cyclone ><

Hehe, no worries ^^

Plops aka pewpewlazers
12-01-2007, 04:54 PM
well you are right, there never really was a certain "combo," if thats what you want to call it, that we couldnt beat besides druid/lock/rogue (it is possible, we have done it vs good teams, but its just not worth the effort)

We have played against that exact combo made up of former top 5 5v5 and top 10 3v3 players so far in season 3 vs our combo of hunter/lock/druid.

Not only are the wins fairly fast, they are also fairly secure. We can hold about a 70% win rate against them, having far less 3v3 experience on our team.

The hunter focuses the lock and helps the druid control the rogue, the warlock follows the enemy druid around EVERYWHERE(especially in blade's edge so he can't bail off the bridge to exploit pet pathing), casting drain mana whenever he drops into caster form and refreshign his dots on the druid all fight. The warlock partner simply announces whenever the druid has to come out of form to heal the enemy warlock (which is often, especially if you can stick multiple aim shots), and whenever that happens the hunter refreshes viper. Any time the druid is in range of the hunter, the hunter immediately switches his DPS to the druid until the druid is forced to run out of range, then the hunter resumes his focus on their warlock to knock back his fears.


Not only are the fights very fun, but their combo is at a disadvantage any way you look at it. During a 6 minute fight the rogue is often doing less than 20k damage. Being cycloned twice, then feared, then having the hunter wingclip him just before fear fades is borderline unfair =)

Opel
12-02-2007, 12:15 AM
We didn't have our normal lock. The lock we played with hadn't been SL/SL in about a year+. I demand a rematch :(

yeah i noticed that later, but in all honesty when we got out of that match we were like "how the fuck did we win"

we decided it was best left unsaid, i run mage/rogue/priest now (well im still learning it), but we are probably still going to play with holt. he wanted to run hunter/lock/druid also, but the only good resto druid available never logs on anymore.

I was mia for a week and they replaced me :C i'd love to play against you guys with our regular players

Hunter lock druid is amazing imo


i remember playing you guys a long long time ago with you and a war/druid...that wasnt fun. i think it was you saying something about hamchook to us, wasnt nice :[

Lupi
12-02-2007, 01:36 AM
There's no beating around the bush here, that team is 100% better off with a Rogue over a Hunter. :/

No, There is no way. My priest/mage/rogue made Glad last season and right now i think we are #1 in shadowburn bg. We are a counter for the most played combo's like pally/war/sl-sl lock and RMP. Also 2 healer teams. I honestly think this is the best combo in season 3 right now.

Edit: Againts Pally/war/lock u have to time ur cc's out on the pally but we do have chastise to which helps a lot. Also for rmp make sure u are on the mage and draining the priest while ccing the rogue.

Holt
12-06-2007, 05:07 AM
i remember playing you guys a long long time ago with you and a war/druid...that wasnt fun. i think it was you saying something about hamchook to us, wasnt nice :[


It was "Hey look its Hamchook, oh wait this hunters a scrub" If I remember correctly.