View Full Version : 2v2 Hunter Priest vs. Warrior druid?
Supahfly
11-22-2007, 12:58 PM
ok me and my partner at 2020 and we kept getting stuck their.. our main problem is warrior druid is just killing us.. anyone have an idea of what to do? i was trying to find megatf's guide but i cant find it now lol
Grimgnaw
11-23-2007, 02:31 AM
I cant say I have a flawless record against warr/druid, but I definatly pull around 50%. Here is kind of a step by step of what I try to do:
- Apply pressure to the warrior. Do this till the druid come out to heal it.
- Scatter/Trap the warrior asap. You were feeding him rage and your priest will need the break.
- Once that druid breaks stealth, sick you pet on him so he cant dissapear again.
Thats how the typical start goes, after that, the randomness of arena makes things a lot more clear. Basically your priest needs to kite the warrior and you need to scatter/trap his every cool down. The druid will never be able to stop you. Between traps, try wing clipping the warrior and keep your priest los from charge. Its 100% your job to keep that priest alive so do it.
As for the druid, once you get to this point, he is your dps target. Dont really use much mana, cuz you will need some for bursting. Whenever he shifts, drop a sting and silence on him. It will let it tick once or twice. The priest should try a Mana Burn if he can. Eventually you will wear his mana down and be able to kill stuff.
Your priest should also be drinking as much as possible. Once a scatter/trap is down, he has at least 10 seconds to do that shit, especially if he is LOS. If the druid is keeping him in combat, punish him with a scare beast. Your priest can AOE fear the druid too to buy 8-10 seconds. My priest has used 10-20 waters during one warr/druid fight (on Blades Edge where druid drank a lot kiting my pet).
Thats the basic plan. Always trap on cool down and your priest will almost never feel pressure. Like I said at the begining though, its not a flawless strategy. Its just what i've found works best.
One thing I almost forgot to mention was be wary of arcane shot dispell when druid is oom. I have lost one match (before learning my lesson) to chain dispelling lifebloom while burning down my target. It was the end of the fight, everyone was oom, and the druid kept whoever i was buring alive solely on me proccing lifebloom. Either down rank, or ignore arcane shot completly.
Cafeine
11-23-2007, 04:31 AM
sorry to say but this wont work on a good war/drood team.
First thing they do is kill your pet whenever they get the chance, noway u can keep the pet alive without your priest going oom in seconds, by the time you managed to dismiss it the drood is far far away drinking while you and your priest are hamstringed. So the drood is free to drink whenever. The only thing your pet can be used for is distracting the war from your priest but you can only manage this a few times since pets sometimes just get 2 shotted by wars.
Second a sting +silence wont work, all good droods start casting abolish poison whenever the shift out before you get the chance of applying viper. Only thing that will do it is dispelling it before you shoot your viper and having 5 stacks of scorpid poison on him. Dont expect your pet to have poison stacks on the drood all the time since it prob is dead or dismissed.
Best thing that works for me atm is nuking war letting drood come out viper/fear burn, trap war pull yourself together again by drinking etc and do it again. This wont work if the drood stays in bear all the time only when he is stupid enough to back off from the fight and when the war goes for the pet its auto loose aswell.
War/drood as priest/hunter is a 99% loose when playing 2100+ in my BG.
GL :) only real tip I can give u is avoid the war/drood teams with your setup and dont get frustrated about it cuase u will loose most of the time due to setup.
Megatf
11-23-2007, 11:27 AM
sorry to say but this wont work on a good war/drood team.
First thing they do is kill your pet whenever they get the chance, noway u can keep the pet alive without your priest going oom in seconds, by the time you managed to dismiss it the drood is far far away drinking while you and your priest are hamstringed. So the drood is free to drink whenever. The only thing your pet can be used for is distracting the war from your priest but you can only manage this a few times since pets sometimes just get 2 shotted by wars.
Second a sting +silence wont work, all good droods start casting abolish poison whenever the shift out before you get the chance of applying viper. Only thing that will do it is dispelling it before you shoot your viper and having 5 stacks of scorpid poison on him. Dont expect your pet to have poison stacks on the drood all the time since it prob is dead or dismissed.
Best thing that works for me atm is nuking war letting drood come out viper/fear burn, trap war pull yourself together again by drinking etc and do it again. This wont work if the drood stays in bear all the time only when he is stupid enough to back off from the fight and when the war goes for the pet its auto loose aswell.
War/drood as priest/hunter is a 99% loose when playing 2100+ in my BG.
GL :) only real tip I can give u is avoid the war/drood teams with your setup and dont get frustrated about it cuase u will loose most of the time due to setup.
I couldn't of said it any better myself.
Wonder
11-23-2007, 02:15 PM
If you happen to be with a Shadow Priest, this fight switches from 90% chance to lose to 90% chance to win.
Scatter-Freeze the Druid, DPS the Warrior, Scream the Druid, Silence the Druid, Silence Shot the Druid, Scatter if it's back up, and the Warrior should be dead by then.
Virous
11-24-2007, 04:12 AM
Between scatter and traps on the war and pissing him of royaly, our goal is to get the druid out on the open send pet and then just do a viper/mana burn. I dont know wether we have had stupid luck or what not. have only lost once to 5-6 teams.
Kyoht
11-24-2007, 05:06 AM
I've found that if the druid is being offensive (Bear form, up in our face), it's an almost guaranteed loss -- We just can't pump out enough damage, can't drain them, can't outlast them, can't do much of anything more than flop around looking like idiots.
However, if by chance the druid is more of a defensive player, we'll usually win by being a bit sneaky. This is achieved by flushing the druid out by damaging the warrior, once the druid is exposed, we'll make the "switch" to the druid. Do enough damage and act aggressively enough to scare the druid into fleeing. You're tricking him into believing that you have every intent of focusing him. If done correctly, and at the right time (Make sure you feel right about the timing because I guarantee it will not fool them twice), you can turn around and blow up the warrior. Naturally, it will work best when the druid is either far away or just enough out of line of sight to buy you time.
Switch to hawk, scatter or fear, rapid fire an aimed onto him, and unload. Your priest will actually help with the DPS'ing -- Hoorah for spell dmg on healing gear! Remember to dispel the warrior's HoTs, and keep an eye on the druid's location. You'll laugh over how fast you can burn him down --
Surprisingly enough, this strat has been very successful on teams with a defensive druid. The best part is? Blade's Edge is actually a blessing rather than a curse. Let that little guy run all he wants. But please note, that using the normal precautions is a must -- Protect your priest, keep traps down, use scatters. Bursting will be impossible if your priest is oom from trying to heal himself or you through the warrior's onslaught. Be patient and wait for the best time to strike. YOU have to be in control of the situation, not them.
Remember that in order for this to work, you need to create the illusion of being a single-minded, not too intelligent DPS'er, make them think you're an easy win .. Keep on that druid until you're sure that he's confident that you won't touch his warrior.
But again, this won't work twice against any intelligent team, as it is more of a trick then a strat. You're best defense against a War/Druid team is to just stop queue'ing ;P
Mickster
12-29-2007, 03:07 AM
started doing hunter\priest and in the 2k bracket its like impossible to beat good warrior druid teams, they just stick on the pet till he's dismissed and when he's dismissed the druid is drinking, even with the warrior in icetrap the druid just goes into bear form during viper sting and eventually hunter goes oom and i go oom and they don't let us drink and kill us from there.
Ridzik
12-30-2007, 12:29 PM
We don't face many problems against Marksman/Disc as long as we keep the priest from burning. It's tricky sometimes when I run to far away for some reason and they both start dps'ing my warrior but it's up to me to prevent it.
However there is this one beastmaster hunter Toboder from EU-Arthas who does play with a druid, specs something like 42/5/14 or 4x/11/x for arena and screws us every time. He himself is untouchable for my warrior: deterrance, entrapment, imp wingclip and the beast within, on me he uses viper/arcane shot instead of viper/silence which is as effective. Idk if it works with a priest but I suggest you pick up imp revive pet at least.
Sekah
12-30-2007, 01:32 PM
The tactic we've found works best has been mentioned above - focus on the druid for a good long time while CC'ing the warrior, and when the druid runs off be ready to switch to the warrior. Pop Power Infusion, etc and be ready to dispel anything that's not lifebloom on him if the druid gets back in time.
We've also had fights where we'll take the warrior down to about 50%, switch to the druid to force him to run with the hunter on his tail. If your priest has full mana and health (not unusual since you can drink so much in druid/warrior fights) he may be able to take the warrior down the rest of his health while the hunter does his best to stall the druid and keep him away if he figures out what's happening.
Imp revive pet, imp pet run speed, etc helps a lot against this combo. Between mind control, wing clip, freezing trap and scatter you have an enormous amount of CC for the warrior. Have your priest save his fear for when he can get up beside the druid and do a fear/burn combo.
The most hopeless warrior/druid fight I've had this season was a team where they both stuck to my hunter like glue with the druid in bear form. We couldn't force him out once, and the warrior's damage was extreme. As a priest, I was ignored, forced to spam heal and run oom.
You won't win unless they play it wrong.
Just play it like you would play any warrior/healer and hope they're terrible.
Xaint
01-01-2008, 06:36 AM
lose.
Ain't that the truth.
Wonder
01-01-2008, 06:44 AM
As a general reminder: kill the Warrior.
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