View Full Version : How the <BLEEP> do you beat <BLEEP>ing disc priest/anything?
Klore
11-21-2007, 03:57 PM
Congratulations to my druid and I, we successfully just dropped about 400 ranks, 200 rating, and went 1-14 against 15 disc priest teams. We got lucky on the win since the priest's partner dc'd. So, now that i'm about to quit this game due to priests being ungodly overpowered in 2v2, any advice on how to pull out of this $%&^ing 200 rating loss and get my gladiator rank back?
Warrior/Druid vs. DiscPriest/Anything.
Advice. Any of it. Now. Please.
Snuffy
11-21-2007, 04:01 PM
erm
cyclone the person who has PS? or just run away?
buena
11-21-2007, 04:10 PM
Seriously? WTF are hpriests doing to you that they didn't do to you before? Plz tell so mine can do it. Are they like killing you? Or mana burning or just outhealing your druid until it goes oom or what? TBH I am kind of boggled by this post. I play druid warrior on my druid and consider any team with a hpriest a free win. Yes even after 2.3.
Klore
11-21-2007, 04:11 PM
disc priest, not holy. holy priest is a joke now.
Seriously? WTF are hpriests doing to you that they didn't do to you before? Plz tell so mine can do it. Are they like killing you? Or mana burning or just outhealing your druid until it goes oom or what? TBH I am kind of boggled by this post. I play druid warrior on my druid and consider any team with a hpriest a free win. Yes even after 2.3.
Truth. give us some more information and we can help you out. A druid should be able to last longer vs any dps compared to a priest outlasting a MS warrior.
Albinus
11-21-2007, 04:13 PM
You're sundering the priest, right?
buena
11-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Maybe you're hitting 34/0/27 priests in spelldamage gear and they're killing you? That's the only thing I can think of. But those are basically just shadowpriests trying out a new (and imo inferior) spec. Shadowpriests were already hard and still are (particularly with a rogue or warlock).
Klore
11-21-2007, 04:28 PM
The majority of the losses were to disc priest/rogue, but i'd like some advice against spriest/rogue too. Maybe even spriest/lock.
If it's disc priest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the rogue.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Our first strat was to downright kill the priest. So, dps the priest while druid cyclones the rogue.
-Pain Suppression goes up. Priest either heals to full right off the bat, or gets pummeled and then heals to full after the silence.
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Rogue kills me, disc priest Smites for ungodly amounts.
-18-20 pt loss.
If it's spriest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the priest.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Kill the rogue. The idea here was that i could burst down the rogue before the spriest could burst me down. Druid cyclones the spriest.
-Rogue vanishes, twice if i pop him out, or has imp sprint, twice. (hemo = has prep)
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Or, if his trinket is up, priest silences druid.
-Rogue and Spriest kill me.
-18-20 pt loss.
kapuu
11-21-2007, 04:32 PM
posted in wrong tread...
buena
11-21-2007, 04:38 PM
You don't have to kill the priest through pain suppression. You are going to win a mana battle if you just live through the rogue's cooldowns. To do that use cyclone liberally and apply hots pre-emptively. When the rogue is not cycloned you should also be on him to be forcing him to use his cooldowns. Also, your druid shouldn't get feared. Why is it standing in scream range of a hamstringed priest when heals and abolish are 40 yards, and cyclone is 30(36)?
Spriest rogue is much harder and I'd be lying if I said I had the answer to it, especially with the new 2.3 rogues. Your best bet is to simply try to survive long enough for the rogue to run out of cooldowns, but there is no foolproof method for doing this. If you find one let me know.
Klore
11-21-2007, 04:44 PM
Thing is, with the new anyone being able to see dots shenanigan, priests are all over dispelling the hots. I hardly get any hot heals during the period(s) of time my druid is cc'd, which usually ends up with a big loss. As for mana, don't priests have the shadowfiend? i'm usually dead before my druid has to use innervate because of all the damn blind, fear, silence, chastise... he even got vanish-sap'd once. it wasn't pretty.
As for the fear range thing, i'll have to talk to him about that. it's a good point.
Txero
11-21-2007, 04:56 PM
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
damn those priests spamming psychic scream like that...
your druid should:
A.) not be getting in fear range of a hamstrung priest... and
B.) should not be blowing trinket on it, unless you're going to die.
even better. When your druid is CC'd (fear / blind / silence) have him call it, pull out the sword and board, and spell reflect those ever so difficult 2.5 second smite casts. you should have your druid keep abolish poison on you for wound along with the hots.
My warrior and I see priest/rogue teams as free points!
Snuffy
11-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Spriest rogue is much harder and I'd be lying if I said I had the answer to it, especially with the new 2.3 rogues. Your best bet is to simply try to survive long enough for the rogue to run out of cooldowns, but there is no foolproof method for doing this. If you find one let me know.
disarm + intervene if they are on you then PH kite with intercepting to the priest to get away and cyclones can own a rogue
if on the druid you just have to make them blow 2 vanishes 2 sprints and a trinket. easy enough with intervene, fear, intercept, PH, hamstring, imp hamstring, and well timed mace stuns
nah just kidding, but honestly don't have much trouble with ANY rogue team, we always come out positive, EXCEPT neilyo + co.
Caligula
11-21-2007, 05:23 PM
Chastise is nasty.
Thing is, with the new anyone being able to see dots shenanigan, priests are all over dispelling the hots. I hardly get any hot heals during the period(s) of time my druid is cc'd, which usually ends up with a big loss. As for mana, don't priests have the shadowfiend? i'm usually dead before my druid has to use innervate because of all the damn blind, fear, silence, chastise... he even got vanish-sap'd once. it wasn't pretty.
As for the fear range thing, i'll have to talk to him about that. it's a good point.
Lifebloom spam.
The majority of the losses were to disc priest/rogue, but i'd like some advice against spriest/rogue too. Maybe even spriest/lock.
If it's disc priest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the rogue.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Our first strat was to downright kill the priest. So, dps the priest while druid cyclones the rogue.
-Pain Suppression goes up. Priest either heals to full right off the bat, or gets pummeled and then heals to full after the silence.
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Rogue kills me, disc priest Smites for ungodly amounts.
-18-20 pt loss.
If it's spriest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the priest.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Kill the rogue. The idea here was that i could burst down the rogue before the spriest could burst me down. Druid cyclones the spriest.
-Rogue vanishes, twice if i pop him out, or has imp sprint, twice. (hemo = has prep)
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Or, if his trinket is up, priest silences druid.
-Rogue and Spriest kill me.
-18-20 pt loss.
Between pummel, intercept, intim shout, feral charge, bash, pummel being off cd again, and cyclone their priest shouldnt get a heal off during ps. Rogue spriest is a harder match up though definitely, you basically have to get on the rogue and play hella defensive trying to los the priest as much as possible. Also why the fuck is your druid getting blinded, he needs to keep abolish up when you are getting below 50%. Spriest rogue you should lose to, you should NOT be going 1-14 vs disc priest teams.
Also why the fuck is your druid getting blinded, he needs to keep abolish up when you are getting below 50%.
Blind is not longer a poison, abolish does nothing to it.
Gharakor
11-21-2007, 06:59 PM
my druid always keep his pvp trinket for blind against rogue teams now, we never lose to rogue/priests. Between cyclone and the constant damage I put on either one of them, they don't stand a chance.
I really don't know how you're getting stomped by that combo, as it's one of the easiest as a druid/warrior team. The druid is alot more mana efficient so if even if you can't kill the priest, you'll prolly win the mana fight anyway.
Skooter
11-21-2007, 07:00 PM
If your druid is getting "spamfeared" by the priest then I'd suggest finding another druid.
Alright look, i play spriest/rogue. Now the way u fight it is not by bursting the rogue as u seem to be doing. You will play the mana game. Essentially this works for any priest rogue for you. Stay on the priest make SURE to keep hamstring up, or piercing howl to get both targets. the druid needs to have great positioning awareness to cyclone the rogue preferably during AR's, Meanwhile if you stay on the priest he is essentially dotting you, and has to dispell on eveyr gcd except for a few mb swd combos which a swiftmend can override. The priests ONLY way to get to the druid is to wait for a 5 point kidney on u to trinket and run to him. Save your trinket for that moment and intercept. Then it should be game over. This fight is ALL about positioning. Dont let them trick you either, dont get cocky and run los of your druid. just hug that priests nuts and dont let him move.
Basic principle against spriest rogue. If your druid gets feared you lose.
Faceroller
11-22-2007, 04:15 AM
I am not sure how your druid is getting feared by a hamstringed (you do have hamstring on him, right?) priest.
And you don't have to attack the priest when he has pain suppression up. Just run to your druid if you are getting low, or target switch and build rage on something else so you can switch back when PS goes down.
Eraxis
11-22-2007, 06:59 AM
Defensive stance+shield through adrenaline rush. That is all.
Smyhte
11-22-2007, 01:32 PM
Smiting for ungodly amounts? o_O I just switched to disc... I even have half damage gear on sill... my smite lands for like 1000 after a 2s cast. lol.
At least in my definition that's not quite godly. :)
The majority of the losses were to disc priest/rogue, but i'd like some advice against spriest/rogue too. Maybe even spriest/lock.
If it's disc priest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the rogue.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Our first strat was to downright kill the priest. So, dps the priest while druid cyclones the rogue.
-Pain Suppression goes up. Priest either heals to full right off the bat, or gets pummeled and then heals to full after the silence.
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Rogue kills me, disc priest Smites for ungodly amounts.
-18-20 pt loss.
If it's spriest/rogue...
-Charge the priest so rogue comes out, put hammy on the priest.
-Or, if i see the rogue w/ perception, charge and hamstring him.
-Kill the rogue. The idea here was that i could burst down the rogue before the spriest could burst me down. Druid cyclones the spriest.
-Rogue vanishes, twice if i pop him out, or has imp sprint, twice. (hemo = has prep)
-Rogue blinds my druid. His trinket is down from the spamfears earlier.
-Or, if his trinket is up, priest silences druid.
-Rogue and Spriest kill me.
-18-20 pt loss.
keep attacking rogue ur dmg will make their priest go oom trying to heal the rogue, if your druid is blinded or cc'd put on a shield..i do like 100 dmg SS on shield'd wars...when your are toped off, get your weapon back on and rape the rogues like all warriors do. always get bleed dot up so they break stealth on vanish. the sec they sprint use piercing howl and hamstring again...so many ways to pwn a rogue with a warr ..
Blind is not longer a poison, abolish does nothing to it.
ewps forgot about that my bad.
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