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Exanimis
08-10-2007, 03:48 PM
I am currently running on 2 teams.

I am a Feral Druid.

2v2: MS warrior, Me
3v3: MS warrior, Me, Priest (healing specs, changes frequently)

Any thoughts on our ability to climb in ratings?

2v2:Our current downfall is the lock/S:Priest or Lock/Lock
We have about a 20% or less win ratio against this combo.

Strategies: Kill dps, Lockdown healer. or Kill extremely soft healers like Druids if they have a melee partner. (we are both extremely resilient to melee damage, MS war is 350 ish resil, I have 225 and 22k armor and 15K+ health)

3v3: We just started this team and are I believe 17 or 18 and 3 record. We will see where we reach difficult teams soon. We run a similar strategy to our 2v2.



Any comments on our projected future? How would you shut us down and how would you play if you were us?





EDIT: By the way, if you answer the poll be kind enough to explain yourself rather than troll. Include real reasons not "No because I think no"

EDIT2: Eternia: Since I can't reply here I'll reply in my OP. Thanks for the comment. I do however disagree with part of what you said. The fact that I can almost never die to melee or physical damage of any type is my strenght atm, also I deal a little more than half of the dps of my warrior partner in bearform. Typically I am the interrupter / ccer (yeah druids have CC people, and its a good one) we go by the 60% charge next heal + Bash + cyclone strategy most of the time.

Also let me elaborate. we completely eat melee + healer teams of all types. we also eat 50% of caster healer teams. However, at our current rating it seems all of the teams are shadow/shadow, which eat us.

EDIT3: Meets: Thanks for the feedback, I guess I'll have to wait to face anyone who can pull off what you stated however because we have eaten teams like you described. I rarely let the hibernate go off on me if at all, and I haven't seen anyone take down the warrior. It certainly won't be a melee class. Also you assume that I don't feral charge and that you will cleanly be able to cast cyclone and hibernate any time you want and that I would not cleanse or trinket, or the warrior is not in bezerk stand or would trinket. Can you give a perspective where you are not god?

Edit 4: Nn: Thanks again for the comments, I have considered respeccing resto but I do not have all of the gear at the moment. It would only be feasible for me to get my 4 pc feral and save points to switch for season 3. I also tank for my guild in pve, so I'd need to get on the respec bandwagon. It is a possible future however.

Eternia
08-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Honestly, anything but resto is damn near worthless these days. Feral lacks both control and damage, making them not much of a threat at all. Can't heal worth a damn either.

If you're all good at your class, expect to float around the 1800's.

Meets
08-10-2007, 04:09 PM
Honestly, If I were to face your 3v3 team we would sleep you or cyclone you sap or blind the warrior and kill your priest feral druids I find funny my hots out heal them now and seem to be a waste of a arena space.. boomkin nice burst dmg and bring -some- utility cyclone and pushback with treants

In two vrs two id virtually ignore you and kill the warrior without much you could do about it

Nn
08-10-2007, 04:12 PM
I'd recommend you go Resto. Feral Druids are a joke in the lower/upper bracket ratings. Resto Druid/ Warrior is amazing for 2v2. Resto Druid/Mage/Rogue is amazing for 3v3 due to their CC capabilities.

Xios
08-10-2007, 05:38 PM
I really haven't seen many successful feral druid in the 2v2 and 3v3 bracket. However, in 5v5 I have played some top teams with feral druids since they can put out some amazing damage, which really goes well with another warrior to ms the target. One of the top teams (i forget the name, sorry) that was top 5 in the U.S. i believe actually struggled with a lot of feral druid teams until they found a way to overcome them. Anyway, i do agree with Nn. If you want to play in the 2v2 and 3v3 bracket and be successful, i reccommend gradually switching your gear to resto.

Medz
08-10-2007, 07:32 PM
Honestly, anything but resto is damn near worthless these days. Feral lacks both control and damage, making them not much of a threat at all. Can't heal worth a damn either.

If you're all good at your class, expect to float around the 1800's.

Windwalk
08-10-2007, 07:39 PM
I wouldn't say that feral "lacks damage." It does quite a bit of damage. But it doesn't do anything else. You don't control like a rogue or MS like a warrior. When you cyclone, you're doing 0 DPS.

Druid/Warrior won't take you that far for a few reasons. For one, the warrior will be easy to CC. Now, if you two have the gear and work very, very well together you could be at 2K by the end of the season. That team does have a gib potential against any team with a clothie (aside from a demon lock).

I believe that nearly any 2v2 combo that has some DPS can succeed to a point. I just wouldn't expect to make the top 100. (In my BG, at the end of the season 2100 was 100th).

wojo
08-10-2007, 08:26 PM
feral druids are utterly inferior to rogues (not that a warrior functions with anything besides a healer in any case) in 2s and 3s but they have typically untapped potential in 5s

Branket
08-12-2007, 04:25 AM
Feral is broken until you can cast roots and cyclone in forms(forever)

Laila
08-12-2007, 04:44 AM
Druid can have excellent dps.

Druid also has fantastic control, arguably the best in the game, locks probably have the edge due to simplicity though.

Pounce > 1-2 more cp > maim > cyclone x2 > feral charge > bash > root > cyclone > get 2 cp and maim > cyclone x2 > feral charge > bash > yada yada


Thing is this: it only takes 11 points in feral to be capable of that (a few more make it smoother), and the damage you do while switching around like that is not worth giving up nature's swiftness and swiftmend, and you don't need dps gear to do it.


Don't get me wrong, feral druid + warrior can be very successful, if you are good enough I have no doubt you could make top 10 in any battlegroup with it. But if you want to compete for the very top, you're going to need to be mostly resto.

kyoshi
08-12-2007, 11:07 AM
i think you have to look at it in a different angle. you are feral. that means your mana is lacking. unless you spec/gear it to be better. i think whatever druid you are, you need to help CC/off heal. moonkinds do serious damage, but they can stay out of form. I can see a mana problem if you are constantly changing forms, but even restro druids in arena change forms so many times its not even funny.
druid/warlock would beat my team, the druid was feral. we would go back and forth because he would not CC, only the warlock would CC me, but that didn't matter cause my dots were up already. if its a shadowpriest/warlock for example. you can maim the warlock, put your DOTs on him, while the priest is being hit by the MS warrior, more then likely the demon is a felhunter, which don't mean anything for ya. cyclone the warlock/root the warlock until the priest is dead.
my resto partner can keep someone out of doing anything for like 15 seconds or more with the right timing. that makes and breaks fights. im sure you have feral charge if you are feral.
I would have the warrior pop deathwish/recklessness right off the bat, and just not let up on the priest. you can also try to heal when he needs it.
for 3v3...you need a resto druid. cause 2 cyclones/2 roots is just plain sexy. Im not saying don't DPS as feral in arena, but try to CC more to help your partner out.

Yingas
08-13-2007, 09:59 AM
If you wanna do well in 2's....find a semi skilled rogue thats willing to play a hemo spec with prep and such...he won't be able to get snared due to his 9 million breaks and it still provides decent damage....works well and if you play right you can do decently well....for 3's I find feral pretty useless and would always prefer resto..but thats not your playstyle so do what makes u have fun and enjoy it

Hexagon
08-13-2007, 10:56 AM
I vote no, because warriors work best with a healer. Respec and let him do the damage imo.