View Full Version : [2v2] Disc Priest/Rogue vs Druid/warrior
belquin
11-19-2007, 09:05 AM
How do the priest rogue play out this combo to try and force a win... i know its a hard matchup but how can we put pressure on enough to possibly squeeze a win out?
thanks guys
Ridzik
11-19-2007, 09:44 AM
Dps the warrior, dispel the warrior all the time (it makes him very hard to heal for the druid), dot him too with both your dots. position yourself between the warrior and the druid all the time and try to get off manaburns. Try to fear the druid to force him to use his trinket. When his trinket is on CD wait until your fear CD has only 10 sec left, then have your rogue pop sprint and blind the druid. fear him afterwards. 18sec time to finish the warrior should be enough. multilate spec helps a lot (poisons will be much more annoying and second wind won't be healing the warrior all the time). if you manage to get an opener on the druid then start on him, there is a chance he'll have to use his trinket on the 5pt kidney shot, switch to the warrior asap.
for the warriors reading this: intervene provides a 10sec anti-blind buff. if the rogue happens to blind you though he wanted to blind your druid their cc rotation on the druid is fucked. BUT: while intervene is counter to blind, shadowfiend is counter to intervene. taunt the shadowfiend asap.
belquin
11-19-2007, 06:53 PM
this is assuming the warrior is on me killing me (as the priest) with a full rage bar right? cause i die substantially faster with a warrior with a full rage bar on me than just a warrior hitting my shield.
izrafel
11-20-2007, 11:21 PM
for the warriors reading this: intervene provides a 10sec anti-blind buff. if the rogue happens to blind you though he wanted to blind your druid their cc rotation on the druid is fucked. BUT: while intervene is counter to blind, shadowfiend is counter to intervene. taunt the shadowfiend asap.
Ridzik can you clarify this? i'm not sure what u mean...
Kholdstayr
11-20-2007, 11:33 PM
The above method will never work because you will be cc'd while your rogue dies or your mana wont outlast the druids OR the warrior will go for you while the rogue get's cc'd which will screw you over too.
The only method that we have found is to just BLOW UP the druid. Kite the warrior on your mount around pillars until the rogue finds the druid or the crystals appear. Get on the druid and double dps him down. Your rogue has to be amazing and cant ever let the druid get away. dispels are your friend.
If this doesnt work right away, get the warrior off the rogue with a mind control. You're pretty much screwed here, but at least it will buy more time for your rogue to get the druid.
Good Luck
When we face warr+druid we let warr start on me i dps him down to 60-70%. Then their druid pops out to heal my rogue pick him up blow all his CDs i use PI and dps druid if druid is still alive after that we are pretty much screwed
It's really just hit or miss, mostly miss.
Dru/Warr is becoming more and more popular, any team with half a brain can just demolish you.
Any1 found a good strat that wroks almost every time? We tried everything, blow up druid, cc druid kill warr, manaburn druid, i solo the warrior the rogue kill the druid, but still we won like 10-15% of the matches. We have 1782 rating now, 31 - 12 stat. 10 loss was againt druid/warrior teams.:(
Pojken
12-02-2007, 07:38 AM
The above method will never work because you will be cc'd while your rogue dies or your mana wont outlast the druids OR the warrior will go for you while the rogue get's cc'd which will screw you over too.
The only method that we have found is to just BLOW UP the druid. Kite the warrior on your mount around pillars until the rogue finds the druid or the crystals appear. Get on the druid and double dps him down. Your rogue has to be amazing and cant ever let the druid get away. dispels are your friend.
If this doesnt work right away, get the warrior off the rogue with a mind control. You're pretty much screwed here, but at least it will buy more time for your rogue to get the druid.
Good Luck
This is the same tac as my 2on2 used in s2. Works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't, pretty much rely on the druids skill in survival.
tho we do like this, we start with zap on warrior... my rogue can get it of 9/10 times so it should be np, than when its 3 sec left on zap I mind control cause usually druid pops (I have no idea why) when warrior get CCed, we rush to the druid, warrior intercept someone of us and rogue blind, if we don't get the druid down in this time I pretty much only mc and fear the warrior and mana burn druid as good as possible and sometimes we win. we jumped between 2000-2100 rating in s2 so we werent at very high rating no master minds :))
Degausser
12-30-2007, 04:51 AM
What my rogue and I do is usually kite the warrior at the beginning and try to find the druid, when we finally get the druid the rogue pops his first round of cooldowns on him while I spam dispels on him and try to force him to NS. After the NS if we think we can't take the druid down, we switch the warrior and try to blow him up as the druid will usually keep running away from us, and if he comes back we just fear/blind and if all went well the druid shouldn't be able to trinket out. That strat has worked most of the time but I'm sure how well it does against the higher end warrior/druids.
Alphatier
12-30-2007, 09:49 AM
My rogue is usually on the warrior while I spam dispell the warrior, so he won't get too many heals, and he will not get to me aside from intercept because poisons > harmstring.
Once the warrior realizes that he will not get me he will switch to the rogue, at which point I am free to mana burn the druid (which usually does not work), put damage onto the warrior and fear the druid, which will be followed by a blind -> sap once the warrior gets down to low hp. I am still spam dispelling the hots off the warrior, so the druid will be oom pretty quickly with the damage a rogue can put onto a warrior nowadays.
I would say this setup is about 50/50
Ridzik
12-30-2007, 01:20 PM
The above method will never work because you will be cc'd while your rogue dies or your mana wont outlast the druids OR the warrior will go for you while the rogue get's cc'd which will screw you over too.
You underestimate how many damage a rogue can put on a warrior with 2h in berzerk stance. You can dispel every hot and abolish and this drains the druids mana pretty fast. Druid/War still have the upper hand most of the time but this is by far the most annoying strat from my pov. I don't die to one rogue alone, period. And my warrior will make damn sure the priest is busy healing.
Ridzik can you clarify this? i'm not sure what u mean...
When the Warrior intervenes the druid and stays within 10 yards range then the next physical attack on the druid will be redirected to the warrior, blind for example. Shadowfiend damage ist physical afaik so you can send it on the druid, let it hit once to remove intervene and then send it on the warrior and call for the blind.
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