Season Three Arena Title Calculator

[Tyveris]

This is the official launch of the season three title calculator (http://www.arenajunkies.com/calculator/). Any numbers read there before this point should be disregarded. Here is what you need to know about the title calculator.

1) The inactivity ratio was bumped from 45% to 50%. This is based on data pulled from the armory for some of the smaller BGs and compared it to their activity last year. The info can be found here (http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=26051).

2) It is just an estimate. The lowest teams that were found have a ranking and we use the lowest that ranking gets to as an approximation of how many teams there are total. We then apply our approximation to get the total number of active teams, and crawl the armory to find where the gladiator cutoff is.

3) We can only get the approximate rating for the gladiator cutoffs due to new data limits in place on the armory servers. For duel/rival/challenger, if you get that rank you should easily be safe.

4) We will constantly be updating it until the end of the season. This means the lowest teams may change, or the algorithm may change. Check back to make sure you have the latest info.

5) If you are registered here, it should bump your BG to the top for easier viewing.

If you have any ideas on how to make it more accurate, or where it might be wrong, please keep the discussion in this thread. We are working with even more limited info this season so any ideas on how to improve it would be great.

[Tyveris]

Final results, but I have to run for a bit so will have to analyze and get the calculator updated later.

US-Emberstorm 5v5
S3: Teams: 4537 Inactive: 2306 - 50.8%
S2: Teams: 1526 Inactive: 697 - 45.7%

EU-Vindication 5v5
S3: Teams: 2666 Inactive: 1628 - 61.1%
S2: Teams: 952 Inactive: 568 - 59.7%

EU-Sturmangriff 5v5
S3: Teams: 2476 Inactive: 1446 - 58.4%
S2: Teams: 961 Inactive: 504 - 52.5%

US-Retaliation 5v5
S3: Teams: 4930 Inactive: 2756 - 55.9% (Incomplete only 1350+ teams)
S2: Teams: 1701 Inactive: 857 - 50.4%
Here are the inactive parsing results for some of the smaller BGs from the other thread. It also has their comparison to last season.

[Sabottage]

Thanks a lot, <3.

[Sanneia]

Thanks!

[wicedin]

The cutoffs seem to be significantly lower than for the 2 previous seasons, what would be the explanation for that? Could we expect the data to change in the next 2 weeks?

[Prcko]

With every new lowest team uploaded data will change.
Thing is I am getting Error messages from EU armory, anyone else?

[Tyveris]

The ratings are lower because the final two weeks are just now taking place. Expect ~100 jump as people make their final push for gladiator. Also, it appears there may be more teams getting gladiator.

EU Armory is busted at the moment.

[Prcko]

I would expect ~100 jump only in some competitive BGs. For example those BGs you were using to determine % of inactivity will imo have small to none jump.
According to my experience last season.

[Mombu]

yes eu armory has error message atm...

[Zorione]

Sub-2200 rated teams getting gladiator? Rofl? If these numbers are right thats hilarious how low u can be to get glad in 2's and 3's

[thecage41]

The Emberstorm 5on5 has 11 Number of Glads 11, but Glad rank being 8. Is this a mistake?

[Fishcake]

I see there is a new square added in the title calculator "Num glads" What is this?

[Tyveris]

The Emberstorm 5on5 has 11 Number of Glads 11, but Glad rank being 8. Is this a mistake?
It needs to update. The lowest team got lower, but the last calculation was earlier this morning.

Sub-2200 rated teams getting gladiator? Rofl? If these numbers are right thats hilarious how low u can be to get glad in 2's and 3's
It will go up as the end of the season approaches.

I see there is a new square added in the title calculator "Num glads" What is this?
Num glads is how many teams will get gladiator. Rank is what rank that is with inactives accounted for. Rating is what rating that rank is.

[wicedin]

The ratings are lower because the final two weeks are just now taking place. Expect ~100 jump as people make their final push for gladiator. Also, it appears there may be more teams getting gladiator.

EU Armory is busted at the moment.

Do you have the numbers on how much the ratings went up in the last two weeks last season on each bg? Although it would probably be biased, since the last 2 weeks last 3 weeks if I remember correctly.

[Tyveris]

Do you have the numbers on how much the ratings went up in the last two weeks last season on each bg? Although it would probably be biased, since the last 2 weeks last 3 weeks if I remember correctly.
I don't remember unfortunately. Sorry =/

[Vander]

u rule tyv!

[Sovreign]

Sorry if I'm a noob at reading this but...(gonna use shadowburn 5v5) the Num Glads is 29, so that is how many teams are getting glad? and the Glad Rank of 32 is how many teams are technically eligible for glad?

[Tyveris]

There are 29 teams getting gladiator. Currently, the 29th eligible team is at rank 32.

[Sovreign]

woot that's us! thanks for the clarification

[Argeln]

if you're at that rank right now sovreign, I don't think you'll still be safe for gladiator in 2 weeks time, unless no one plays in your Battlegroup at that rating, which I doubt.

[Xandos]

TYV YOUA MONSTER.

Thx for the effort. +REP THIS MAN UP.

[Soulja]

Can we expect the Gladiator cutoff rating to be lower than last seasons or higher?

[Frostblok]

So is it me or are the cutoffs alot lower then the last 2 seasons?? I mean i have a 2207 3v3 and already we're 65 points above cutoff for glad... I know that we should expect about a 100 point jump thats why the last week we're pushing for 2300 to be safe but i just think Blizz is trying to include more teams this season. any thoughts?

[Sabottage]

So is it me or are the cutoffs alot lower then the last 2 seasons?? I mean i have a 2207 3v3 and already we're 65 points above cutoff for glad... I know that we should expect about a 100 point jump thats why the last week we're pushing for 2300 to be safe but i just think Blizz is trying to include more teams this season. any thoughts?

it has always been 0.5% of the teams

[Vander]

Looking at the numbers I'd say there are 40% more active teams playing in average, so the cutoff will go down alot..

[Crackslapper]

You could ask the lowest rated teams of each BG to tell you their last weeks rank which I believe is accurate as to the number of active teams playing.

[Swipe]

Looking at the numbers I'd say there are 40% more active teams playing in average, so the cutoff will go down alot..

Compared to S2 cutoff, S3 should be lower across the board, ya?

[Swipe]

Can we expect the Gladiator cutoff rating to be lower than last seasons or higher?

^

[Vander]

Compared to S2 cutoff, S3 should be lower across the board, ya?

yes

[Saery]

Awesome work!

But I don'tunderstand one thing: On my BG there is less then 5k 5v5 teams, so you can check the armory ladder for lowest team, which is

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Hellscream&ts=5&t=Fanskap&select=Fanskap&fl=1

Armory says they have rank 4703, while your calculator says the same team got rank 4006 (or 4006 teams in total, should mean the same thing, right?) :confused:

[Weber]

The cutoffs seem to be significantly lower than for the 2 previous seasons, what would be the explanation for that? Could we expect the data to change in the next 2 weeks?

Numbers went up a BOATLOAD while skill didnt. grats humans being bad at games

[Isotope]

Awesome work!

But I don'tunderstand one thing: On my BG there is less then 5k 5v5 teams, so you can check the armory ladder for lowest team, which is

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Hellscream&ts=5&t=Fanskap&select=Fanskap&fl=1

Armory says they have rank 4703, while your calculator says the same team got rank 4006 (or 4006 teams in total, should mean the same thing, right?) :confused:

If you go to those same players' individual armories their rank is 1590. I think that might accurately reflect the number of active teams for everyone. I pointed the same thing out in this thread:

http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=25909

I'm not totally sure that's correct though, but if so the estimated numbers are off pretty universally, but also wouldn't even be needed.

[Tyveris]

Awesome work!

But I don'tunderstand one thing: On my BG there is less then 5k 5v5 teams, so you can check the armory ladder for lowest team, which is

http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Hellscream&ts=5&t=Fanskap&select=Fanskap&fl=1

Armory says they have rank 4703, while your calculator says the same team got rank 4006 (or 4006 teams in total, should mean the same thing, right?) :confused:
I'll update it.

[Tyveris]

If you go to those same players' individual armories their rank is 1590. I think that might accurately reflect the number of active teams for everyone. I pointed the same thing out in this thread:

http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=25909

I'm not totally sure that's correct though, but if so the estimated numbers are off pretty universally, but also wouldn't even be needed.
They aren't right. I checked Emberstorm 5v5, the last two teams 4631 and 4632 have ranks of:

Ranking 3306: http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Shandris&ts=5&t=Unwanted+Ones&select=Unwanted+Ones&fl=1
Ranking 995: http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Drenden&ts=5&t=ungnome+soldiers&select=ungnome+soldiers&fl=1

Something is bugged with the armory page ranking.

[Kazin]

So do in-game ranks still take inactive teams into account?

I have a friend on Shadowburn whose in-game rank was ~39000th last week. If that takes inactives into account, than Shadowburn is going to have a LOT of people qualifying in 2v2 this season.

[Naamari]

So do in-game ranks still take inactive teams into account?

I have a friend on Shadowburn whose in-game rank was ~39000th last week. If that takes inactives into account, than Shadowburn is going to have a LOT of people qualifying in 2v2 this season.

Same thing on EU-Blackout, there's a team whose rank in game was 40500. Anyone got an idea whats going on? :P

[Tyveris]

Same thing on EU-Blackout, there's a team whose rank in game was 40500. Anyone got an idea whats going on? :P
I'll try and kick an email to Blizzard to see if that gets us anything.

[Crackslapper]

I still don't understand the num glads compared to the glad rank. It says on my BG you have to be rank 133rd, but the number of gladiator teams will be 125 meaning 8 are not included. If 133rd rank is what you have to achieve including all the inactives, then it should be half of that if you only count the actives.

[Tyveris]

I still don't understand the num glads compared to the glad rank. It says on my BG you have to be rank 133rd, but the number of gladiator teams will be 125 meaning 8 are not included. If 133rd rank is what you have to achieve including all the inactives, then it should be half of that if you only count the actives.
In the top 133 teams, there are 8 that are inactive. 133rd is the 125th active team. That inactive and rating data comes from scraping the armroy and checkign to see if teams are active.

[Crackslapper]

In the top 133 teams, there are 8 that are inactive. 133rd is the 125th active team. That inactive and rating data comes from scraping the armroy and checkign to see if teams are active.
So wouldn't that mean 8 more people would get glad that are out of the 133 top?

[Tyveris]

So wouldn't that mean 8 more people would get glad that are out of the 133 top?
Nope. 125 total teams will be getting Gladiator. Thats what 125 glads means. Now, the 125th eligible Gladiator team is ranked 133rd, because there are 8 inactive teams above them. Make sense?

[Giantfoamhat]

How often will you be updating the Rankings and Ratings on the calculator?

[Tyveris]

How often will you be updating the Rankings and Ratings on the calculator?
Nightly right now, but probably as often as 2-3 times a day the final days.

[Drake]

Concerning the rating cutoffs, our battlegroup is one of the highest standing. The cutoff is 2304 for 2v2 atm. Can we expect such a steep rating increase in the next week (~100) or is it prolly going to be lower. We are 2309 atm and will prolly try to push to the 2350-2370 bracket. And does that mean that our BG is one of the most competitive?

[Prcko]

I would say there are a lot of wintraded teams there, perhaps im wrong though

[Spamurai]

Is there any way you could include a "time of last update" at the bottom of the page so we can see how up-to-date the great information you've provided us with is?

[Saery]

Is there any way you could include a "time of last update" at the bottom of the page so we can see how up-to-date the great information you've provided us with is?

Take a closer look in the "bracket" box

[Disparity]

Take a closer look in the "bracket" box

lol :/

[Inimitable]

Concerning the rating cutoffs, our battlegroup is one of the highest standing. The cutoff is 2304 for 2v2 atm. Can we expect such a steep rating increase in the next week (~100) or is it prolly going to be lower. We are 2309 atm and will prolly try to push to the 2350-2370 bracket. And does that mean that our BG is one of the most competitive?

Just means your BG has less 2v2 teams than some other BGs.

[Eyece]

Gladiator rating is 2262 for 2v2 right now. Assuming it stays at this point, what is a "safe zone" for guranteed glad?

[N'Gasta]

If it helps anyone estimate the rating increase in the final week, this is what happened to me last season.
3 weeks before S2 ended my 3v3 teams was ranked 18th on EU-Misery @ 2336 rating. However we couldn't play at all after that and teams slowly climbed above us, which lead to us dropping to 53rd spot.

Not sure though but I'd recall us dropping from somewhere around rank 40 to that 53rd during the last day.

[Zanny]

if you want to be safe for glad in 2s or 3s 2350 is a good shot.

[Zuin]

Id say 2300 will get glad for 2s and 3s on most bgs... wont lower ratings get gladiator this season compared to last season? Because everyone knows last season that 2s and 3s was compeltely clustered with win traders which made like all of the ratings higher becasue so many ppl who werent good enough to get their ratings up were like 2350 cuz they win traded... so as I asked wouldnt this mean theres a chance that the team rating required for gladiator would be lower since they are much less win traders this season?

[Dunnoye]

Right now it says in my battlegroup (US-Reckoning) the cut off is 2219 for 5v5, with 30 teams in range. My team is currently 2272(17th) and we're sitting at this rating since nobody good has been playing lately. Are we safe for the season or can we expect the ratings to go up a lot this final week? I've been told S2 none of the standings changed very much the final weeks since nobody played...

[Chainsawx]

Right now it says in my battlegroup (US-Reckoning) the cut off is 2219 for 5v5, with 30 teams in range. My team is currently 2272(17th) and we're sitting at this rating since nobody good has been playing lately. Are we safe for the season or can we expect the ratings to go up a lot this final week? I've been told S2 none of the standings changed very much the final weeks since nobody played...

I think that means 10+ teams would have to jump your team in rating without any teams already ahead of you dropping below you in the last week. Top 30 teams will get glad regardless of rating no? Not likely but I'd still be ready to play just in case

[Bigornot]

Less Rogue/Priest on Shadowburn so we can at least have a shot please.

Wtf we're 2120 >.>

[constantine77]

Right now it says in my battlegroup (US-Reckoning) the cut off is 2219 for 5v5, with 30 teams in range. My team is currently 2272(17th) and we're sitting at this rating since nobody good has been playing lately. Are we safe for the season or can we expect the ratings to go up a lot this final week? I've been told S2 none of the standings changed very much the final weeks since nobody played...

it seems there have been very few high rated 5's teams playing in reckoning lately, especially the top 40 or so.

[Vertrak]

this may sound nub. but i have a 1901 3v3 and havn't played in it for about a month, does that mean its an inactive team or is it still active cause i am in it and it has played games this season.
Cheers

[Naamari]

Still a bit confused if ingame ranks do count inactives or not.. my alt warrior's 2v2 team was ranked 31371 in-game pvp tab...? :O

[Beldor]

According to how accurate you have been in previous seasons would you consider 2297 will suffice for gladiator in EU-Blackout this season? Right now it's 101 in game rank and 35 people would have to pass us out according to your estimates. Is that likely?

[Maxiimus]

So many people are sitting on their teams this season that I don't think the cutoff is going to be raised too much these last few days. I queued the last 2 days between 2200-2300 and there was seriously about 5 different teams queueing.

I'm sure some of these people will get nervous the last few days and play but it's just retarded getting 22 point losses and 10 point wins on the last week.

[Zanny]

So many people are sitting on their teams this season that I don't think the cutoff is going to be raised too much these last few days. I queued the last 2 days between 2200-2300 and there was seriously about 5 different teams queueing.

I'm sure some of these people will get nervous the last few days and play but it's just retarded getting 22 point losses and 10 point wins on the last week.

I hope this is the case, my druids r / l / d at 2290 prolly wont be able 2 play and i hope that gets the title

[Maxiimus]

So cyclone was updated today at 4:34 PM and the gladiator cutoff is lower than yesterday. Right now it says 2227 it was ~2250 yesterday. Is this because a lower team was found? Or is there more inactive teams now?

[Iluwen]

Well, we did a research for our Realmpool (Hinterhalt). According to the lowest ranked teams that we found ingame (there will be even lower ones) we will have about 25-30% more Gladiators than what the AJ-cutoff says...very interesting. Last season it was kind of the same.
I Think there should be MORE titles this season b/c more people play arena.

[Shore]

So cyclone was updated today at 4:34 PM and the gladiator cutoff is lower than yesterday. Right now it says 2227 it was ~2250 yesterday. Is this because a lower team was found? Or is there more inactive teams now?

2258
That's what I'm currently showing for Cyclone, are you seeing a different number?

Edit: Also, Bloodlust right under your personal BG is at 2227, are you sure you weren't looking at that?

[Undeadwoman]

I'm a bit puzzled about the EU-Rampage 2v2 situation.

We're having 116 glads with an 2312 cutoff, and 23202 active teams

If I look at any other BG anywhere in the world that has 100+ glads (and a large number of teams, it seems most big BGs are swinging around 25k teams), the cutoff is significantly lower, all in the 2200's. I'm not seeing anything special in the lowest team ranking or anything either.

Why does my BG have, by far, the highest required rating, compared to other similar sized BGs?

If it matters, Eu-Rampage is considered second or third most competitive BG, after Cyclone.

I'm no mathematician but something strikes me as odd.

[taca]

this is also annoying me -,- how can it be so high -,,,,,-, i dont even know if we can stop now at 2325 rating or no , just stupid , cba to play more :(

[Maxiimus]

It updated when I refreshed it later yesterday. It just seems a little weird that I'm getting 3+ minute queues on my druid at 2200+ on the last week. There must be a lot of people that will start playing now that its up to 2266 on cyclone.

I always looked forward to the last week because everyone queues and you don't play the same team over and over again. Certain combos have to rely on diverse teams queueing. At least from my experience with shaman/warrior we can't consistently beat competent lock/priest or mage/rogues. Just lost 20+ points per game while trying to dodge these teams yesterday. :)

[threne]

It updated when I refreshed it later yesterday. It just seems a little weird that I'm getting 3+ minute queues on my druid at 2200+ on the last week. There must be a lot of people that will start playing now that its up to 2266 on cyclone.

I always looked forward to the last week because everyone queues and you don't play the same team over and over again. Certain combos have to rely on diverse teams queueing. At least from my experience with shaman/warrior we can't consistently beat competent lock/priest or mage/rogues. Just lost 20+ points per game while trying to dodge these teams yesterday. :)


kyro says to stop yelling at him in arenas.

[Top]

whats the deal with the team ranking on the site here being totally off for the teams ranking on the armory?

I'll use 3v3 on bloodlust for an example but it's like this for a lot of the brackets across all BGs.

According to AJ lowest 3v3 is 31989 rank but the armory shows that team as 20087 rank. This will change the calculation for gladiator significantly.

[Crackslapper]

Blizzard's numbers are relatively flawed since their ingame rank, armory rank, and even the lowest players ranks don't even seem to be consistent.

[Depredadorr]

true xD

[Morcan]

Yeah, pretty funny stuff.

I asked some gms if the ingame ranking is correct, and received three totally different answers towards this question:

First Gm said "Yes, that’s true; the inactive teams do not count towards your ingame ranking."
Second one said "No, unfortunately the ingame ranking includes the inactive teams as well" and the last one mentioned that gms do not have any information about that issue.

Weird, isn't it?

Another interesting thing is that I know the so called lowest team of my realmpool. And for both possibilities, whether the inactive teams are taken into account or not, their ingame ranking shows a huge difference to what the calculator says for them. It’s not even close. That would properly mean, that we will see a significantly in- or decrease in the real cut-offs.

Correct me, if I’m wrong.

[Nosed]

we're on 2233 in 3vs3, blackout BG. according to Arenajunkies we got gladiator rank? Shall we stop or continue =o? *Scared*

[Naamari]

Yeah, pretty funny stuff.

I asked some gms if the ingame ranking is correct, and received three totally different answers towards this question:

First Gm said "Yes, that’s true; the inactive teams do not count towards your ingame ranking."
Second one said "No, unfortunately the in game ranking includes the inactive teams as well" and the last one mentioned that gms do not have any information about that issue.

Weird, isn't it?

Another interesting thing is that I know the so called lowest team of my realmpool. And for both possibilities, whether the inactive teams are taken into account or not, their ingameranking shows a huge difference to what the calculator says for them. It’s not even close. That would properly mean, that we will see a significantly in- or decrease in the real cut-offs.

Correct me, if I’m wrong.

I asked a GM about inactive teams aswell. He probably had no damn clue what I was even talking about.. he didn't even give an answer, wouldn't trust what they say haha :D

[Maxiimus]

kyro says to stop yelling at him in arenas.

But it's so easy to blame a resto shammy :(. Especially when he gets rofflestomped by a mage/rogue while I'm sheeped :).

[Theradur]

I got 2295 rating on misery which is 40 rating above the rating needed for gladiator, we're rank 16 and glad should be r22 according to calculator.

Yet i'm wondering, how accurate is the arena calculator? and are there more 5v5 teams playing in s3 than there were in s2? in S2 you got glad if you were rank 19 on misery so..

[Satanic]

So what rating do i need to get to get Gladiator on Tichy serveR?/bloodlust

[Morcan]

Somekind of additional information to my post above:

I checked the armory this wednesday. Indeed, my ingame ranking was 2 ranks higher than my armory ranking was. I have taken a closer look an I found out that there were exactly two inactive teams in the armory above of mine.
Also my 5v5-team with only 10 games done this season is marked ingame with a ranking of zero. Obviously, it is not taken into account, becouse we did less than 20 games.
All of this observations make me pretty confident: Ingame ranking is the correct one. The owner of the uploadet lowest team of "glutsturm" is a friend of mine and his team is an active one. With an ingame ranking of
~29000 we will see a huge inaccuracy in this seasons calculator, becouse it will end up in a lot of more gladiators, than the calculator presumes.

[Bigornot]

Morcan, I think I understand where you're coming from and I agree there will be a lot more than on the calculator. I really think the calculator is wrong for 2v2 on my BG.. it has said 50,630 teams since just a few weeks into s3.. so I believe there's more teams. The rating required for it is skyrocketing and last season it predicted 2270 something, but there's so many more teams than on the calculator that it was actually 2254 (confirmed by hall of fame). SO I suspect it's more like 2240 right now, which would be nice. We would be ~2300 but we lose to every priest/rogue team.. just takes some luck.

[Tyveris]

Chances are we are underestimating how many glads there are, but even in your example Morcan it only results in ~7 more gladiators. the spread in rating in the cutoff area for that many teams maybe only be about 5 rating, so our approximation still gives you a close estimate to what rating you need to get gladiator.

Also, there has been some talk that the in game ratings are inaccurate for the lower end, but since we have no way to confirm, we just have to go with our highest method and hope for the best. Hopefully next season they will have ingame always be accurate.

[Supermassive]

Tyveris, I was wondering if you could explain the inaccuracies of the Season 2 estimations compared to Season 2 Hall of Fame? The Season 2 Title Calculator stated the rank to hit Gladiator was 112, yet the Hall of Fame cut off was only at 94 (While the rating cutoff was almost spot on). Can we expect this to happen in Season 3 and what was the reason for this inaccuracy?

[Crackslapper]

Tyveris, I was wondering if you could explain the inaccuracies of the Season 2 estimations compared to Season 2 Hall of Fame? The Season 2 Title Calculator stated the rank to hit Gladiator was 112, yet the Hall of Fame cut off was only at 94 (While the rating cutoff was almost spot on). Can we expect this to happen in Season 3 and what was the reason for this inaccuracy?

I believe it's due to a lot of teams not showing up in the hall of fame due to one reason or another.

[Nexer]

i got caught up in PVE with my warrior and stopped caring...i think i might end up vengeful duelist nexer....ha....cut off is 2189 so far so ya never kno

[Tyveris]

Tyveris, I was wondering if you could explain the inaccuracies of the Season 2 estimations compared to Season 2 Hall of Fame? The Season 2 Title Calculator stated the rank to hit Gladiator was 112, yet the Hall of Fame cut off was only at 94 (While the rating cutoff was almost spot on). Can we expect this to happen in Season 3 and what was the reason for this inaccuracy?
It differs per BG because it is just an estimation. I recommend going by the rating and not the rank required as that ended up incredibly close (either equal to or within a couple points).

I cannot tell you definitely what the gladiator cutoff is, but I can present you with some numbers that hopefully give you an idea where you stand.

[Invader]

So, Tyveris, is there a chance on some of the bigger battlegroups(reckoning) that there could end up being ALOT more than the caculator predicted?

[Hellth]

i'm looking at vindication's lowest rated team and they are like ranked 17845, is this with the inactive teams, is it an error or is it something else?

-looked at the guy a post below me and knew a better example of this http://www.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Shadowmoon&ts=3&t=You+Bet+Your+Boots&select=You+Bet+Your+Boots&fl=1

Been like that for a while now

[Top]

The reason for the season 2 hall of fame inaccuracies is due to the fact that teams who played during the 1st 1.5 days of season 3 had their team ratings reset before blizzard took the screen shots for hall of fame.

example: my season 2 team, 2500 rating, we played day 1 of season 3 under the same team roster, went up to 18xx the 1st day, I checked the armory, it showed teams who didnt play with their old s2 rating, and teams who did play at their new s3 rating which make them not show up on the hall of fame.

this is why there are less teams on the season 2 hall of fame than there should be and this is why you should not follow the old "less teams made glad in s2 than expected"

the more you know

[MoreQQ]

Ok so, hello from me!

The question will obviously go towards Tyveris since he's the only of us writers here with a clue :P

So, i checked my battlegroup's lowest 2v2, it has a hunter named Faraleth in it.

When i enter his character pane, and i mouseover his 2v2 team, it says "Last Week Rank 31282".

Now, should we consider that's the actual active number of teams, or if it aint, wth it is then?!

*EDIT
I just checked: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightning%27s+Blade&n=Alberichh , he has the 4978th team in Rampage, a mouseover on his 2v2 shows "Last week's rank" of 2012.

[Tyveris]

If those ranks are correct, you could consider it to be the number of inactive teams, but we don't know if they are. I've found two teams adjacent to each other on the armory both in the 4700s with hover over ranks of 3200 and 900. It just doesn't make any sense.

All I can say is we have the lowest rank we have seen throughout the course of the season. This rank that we found was almost certainly before any inactive altering If 50% is approximately right, this should get you close to the right amount of teams. If you can find additional info about your BG, use it as you see fit.

[Nosed]

!The ranking facts are only for Blackout BG!
Okay! so me(the mighty Nosed) and Deson have done a little research and we talked to some GM's and got two different answers about how the in game arena system ranking works.

Anyways heres what Deson got:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062408024311wl9.jpg
And heres what I got:
http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d5uc0ftmpgl7.jpg and heres my answer on this :
http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062408025434jg8.jpg

(PS if you think mine are fake or too messy i got more ones i can put out but the others are abit too messy and this sums up my conversation with him in what you need to know)So apparently they are not allowed to talk about this.

But the guy i talked to did and confirmed what we thought. Now what you can wonder if its true but logically it would be wouldn't it?
Deson asked a guy whom had 1200 rating what his team rating was. it was 20kish above that and if now the in game ranking remove inactive teams that means there are at least 20k active teams not 14500 as AJ says.

So now if this all is right that means in at least blackout bg there will be alot more gladiators.

So lets say there is 20k teams active (and thats lower then it will be) that means that 0.5% of 20k is 100 so that means atleast 100 will get rank in 3v3 in blackout

[Crackslapper]

Never trust GMs. They should put that tip on the loading screen.

[MoreQQ]

Never trust GMs. They should put that tip on the loading screen.

QFT.

And anyways, a matter of hours in both EU and US. So we might aswell just wait and see if Tyveris was right once more!

[Berzerker55]

can someone tell me which mods this guys using?

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062408024311wl9.jpg

[Deson]

Like my UI do you? :p

Its a pack from Curse that i modified. Not sure about the exact addons and cba checking. So many :eek:

[Catoblepas]

3v3 was such a damn joke in Blackout, we played 3 times and farmed ecerything in sight. Could have been amazing luck tho :p

[Isaaru]

Based on what most of you have said (that there will be more glads than AJ suggests) would you suppose 2300(exactly) 2vs2 in EU-Blackout will be sufficent?

[Militus]

Yea, I'd say your safe.

3v3 was such a damn joke in Blackout, we played 3 times and farmed ecerything in sight. Could have been amazing luck tho :p

No, you just have m4dskeelzz!!

[Nosed]

3v3 was such a damn joke in Blackout, we played 3 times and farmed ecerything in sight. Could have been amazing luck tho :p

haha yeah, way to go druid/warrior/rogue xD!
:warlock:Nosed@Draenor

[Berzerker55]

so im exactly on the cut off, it says rank 45, 2243 is the cut off rating and i am rank 45 with 2243 rating does that mean i will get it or that i just missed it?

[Moonies]

Hello,

I've checked these forums, and I haven't seen any questions about it. Feel free to shoot me if they have been asked (preferably after providing a link or answer ;p).

So anyway, I am in this really shitty battlegroup, filled with wintraders in the 3v3 bracket. Currently, there are 4 teams in the top 10 wintrading. My first question is if those wintraders are counted in the calculations for the gladiator cutoff. Should I move our own rank 4 places up or jsut live with the fact wintraders will get the title?
My second question is if this info is really reliable? Obviously it's estimated, no worries, but what I mean is more like ''should I take the given gladiator cut off rank for granted?''. Is there any possibility you are wrong by a few ranks? For example, my 5v5 is currently ranked 7 (yeah, that's how shit the BG is ;p), and the given cutoff is rank 10. Should we count on getting the title assuming no one will pass us (which is very likely), or can you be completely wrong and will it appear to only be the top 6 (in s2 top 6 got it)?

Sorry again if this has been asked; I did not see.


Thanks for reading

[Nosed]

OMG I can't wait for ze red/black epic flying 310% mount O.O! AMAGAD GAIZ! IT'S SICK :D

[Suza]

zzzzz

[legendaryturtle]

wintraders exist everywhere,every server!

[Schumi]

Hi, This might be a stupid question, but in the beginning of the post/topic there was said " 1) The inactivity ratio was bumped from 45% to 50%. This is based on data pulled from the armory for some of the smaller BGs and compared it to their activity last year. The info can be found here."
Could anyone explain to me what this inactivity is counted for?
Becouse I play on Rampage-EU, I was on 2,4k 2v2, but I did not play in the last 2 months, am I still qualified for the title? ( same personal rating as team, all games played by me )
If this inactivity is something else, then please explain what it is :)Any reply is appreciated

[Sabottage]

^ you're not inactive, don't worry :).

[natoii]

so how far was the title calculator off from the actual glad rating cuz in ruin a 3v3 around 2130 got glad and aj said the cutoff was around 2200 either they got lucky or the title calculator was off by like 70 pts.

[Azp]

AJ overestimated everything it seems, some guy on our server got Gladiator at under 2200, when the estimation was 2317. As well I got rival on my 3s team I haven't played on in months which was ranked somewhere around 1200 when cut off was rank 837 estimated.

[Schumi]

Uhm, is the gladiator given for EU today when the arena points resets? In casem I'll stay up with coffee:P, any replies appriciated

[Naamari]

After maintenance

[Zandire]

Which is when

[Youdienow]

Same as every week for the last 3 years?

But US ones was extended? Will EU one be too?

[Zandire]

3 years of playing wow and I still do not know the time the maintenance ends.

[Naamari]

if its not gonna be extented it should end at 11:00 game time or so

[Youdienow]

extended is to 11:00, and its extended.. so 11:00, unless they get issues.

[Beldor]

Anyone know how far off it was in Blackout 2v2?

[Yannik]

people saying a 2180 rated 2v2 got it so im guessing ur fine.
glad 2's & 3's >_> can only use one ffs! they should give something else instead imo.

[Manlius]

I think AJ did overestimate or blizzard screwed up, my friends 3v3 team got gladiator at only 2083 and atleast 3 teams i know that were around 2100-2150 did not.