2.3 AR/Prep

[krosis]

I was wondering what variations of this build some of you higher rated players will be looking into.

[Qor]

This will be very close to the build I end up using.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhfV0rVt0b0RZxrIoMhRoh

33/28.

Malice v. Deadliness, I need to do the math to make the choice. But, from the article I scanned on WOM blog, it seems deadliness is the better choice.

I am not a fan of riposte, especially when you already have ghostly strikes acting as an alternative move to hemo.

[Jaz]

Qor that spec looks similar to my possible one (if I were to go AR/Prep), but I have to ask: Blade Twisting when hemo/GS don't affect it? So the only chances to proc it are shiv (which theoretically is already snaring) or gouge (which is 4-5.5 seconds of cc leaving the daze slow for only 2.5-4 seconds)? I would put those two points into weapon exp now that its getting buffed just to minimize ripostes by opposing rogues and generally decrease enemy mitigation. I guess you could put 2 into parry, but I'm pretty sure that is less of a DPS increase per point than the new weapon exp.

I may also consider dropping 1 point from camo and putting it into heightened senses.

So this would be my theoretical spec: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhfV0rVt0M0RZxrIoMhRoh

[Eternia]

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZhfV0rVt0b0RZxrIoMhRoh
Hemo doesn't proc blade twisting.

And as far as malice vs deadliness goes, from a 2ap=.8 crit rating point of view, malice is better until you crack 1700 AP before factoring deadliness. (.8 is the assumed value of crit rating after being put through 400 res)

This doesn't even factor in that by taking nerves of steel, you'll always have one less point in deadliness than you do malice... ie, you can get 4 point in malice or 3 points in deadliness; widening the gap even further.

Talents like blessed resilience and natural perfection diminish crit further, but by an incalculable amount. I won't attempt to try that. Is it enough to push deadliness ahead in certain situations? Who knows.

tl;dr version: I'll most likely be going with 4/33/24

[krosis]

it seems the main question now is Malice\Vs\Deadliness and how they will stack up to each other with ,from what I've gathered, most people gemming a little more offensively in s3 and weather the extra Ap would be more viable then crit since your not putting the 15 in assassination

[Eternia]

... since your not putting the 15 in assassination
Referring to lethality? That's a non-factor either way; its a horrible talent. With 30% crit against a 400 res target it equates to roughly .5% increased dps per point. Quite laughable.

As far as my numbers go, they're based strictly on the itemization budget, not on how much each one will actually increase your dps by. Someone else can do the math for that one if they so please :)

[krosis]

ya i was referring to lethality and after all is said and done i think what most people (at least that i have heard from) are either going 0/31/30 or 0/33/28 for nerves of steel and the debate still rages over riposte or no riposte