View Full Version : New Natural Perfection
Kawana
10-30-2007, 05:08 PM
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1440224465&sid=1
Druid
Natural Perfection (Restoration) – Now also grants the Natural Perfection effect after being critically hit, reducing all damage taken by 1/2/3% for 6 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times.
Gunnolf
10-30-2007, 06:52 PM
Oh the crying has already started on the general, pvp, and druid forums.
seems like blizz is really trying to help druids out in 5s
the attempt with the spirit change, the instant shifting and now this
BuckMarley
10-30-2007, 07:29 PM
http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=1440224465&sid=1
Druid
Natural Perfection (Restoration) – Now also grants the Natural Perfection effect after being critically hit, reducing all damage taken by 1/2/3% for 6 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times.
I think, I like. :)
Insight
10-30-2007, 09:55 PM
Gonna be so imba it wont even be fun :(
Davincee
10-30-2007, 10:30 PM
It's different on the US forums...
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2712961387&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
"Now also grants the Natural Perfection effect after being critically hit, reducing all damage taken by 1/3/5% for 6 seconds. Stacks up to 3 times."
I like the US version more hahah
Willferral
10-31-2007, 12:59 AM
It's different on the US forums...
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2712961387&pageNo=1&sid=1#0
"Now also grants the Natural Perfection effect after being critically hit, reducing all damage taken by 1/3/5% for 6 seconds. Stacks up to 3 times."
I like the US version more hahah
Yeah they changed it within an hour lol. This one is the correct one as of now.
As far as I know, the talent will be that plus the 3% crit with no Crit Damage Reduction.
Meany
10-31-2007, 12:18 PM
Yeah they changed it within an hour lol. This one is the correct one as of now.
As far as I know, the talent will be that plus the 3% crit with no Crit Damage Reduction.
Source of the crit damage reduction removal?
Taffy
10-31-2007, 04:18 PM
Source of the crit damage reduction removal?
wasnt that the whole point?
Lundon
10-31-2007, 05:09 PM
I feel that druid will be too imba with all the 2.3 buffs =(
Antega
10-31-2007, 05:13 PM
Nice buff for us, but kind of in the wrong places (moonkin and feral are the ones that need help)
Taffy
10-31-2007, 07:21 PM
I feel that druid will be too imba with all the 2.3 buffs =(
i hate to play the rating card, but i dont see how all these 1900 druids are coming out and saying druids are too OP now. wtf?
this change is basically insignificant unless you have > 1 person targeting you, not including warlocks, which is a situation that currently renders a druid FUNCTIONLESS.
paladins in t6 have as much armor as i do in bear and i'm the most armor stacked healy druid left in wow. if we could cast in bear form we'd be op. with 5% more mit ONLY if you're resil capped to begin with... i think this claim at this early stage is A BIT UNFOUNDED.
maybe what you all mean is that the other healing classes should have their utility nerfed and mobility buffed to make them more like druids? as it stands i just dont understand the logic. maybe you all want to go back to being the marginal, optional, pure novelty class in wow like we were for the first 2 years?
whatever
Ridzik
10-31-2007, 07:59 PM
will the stackable part be magic, giving us kinda extra purge protection?
Since you "gain the effect" I understand it being magical, granting a dispelling buffer.
Alphatier
11-02-2007, 06:20 AM
It is not a magical effect and cannot be purged.
Some may say this is good, some may say this is bad. You will have your own oppinion ;)
It is not a magical effect and cannot be purged.
Some may say this is good, some may say this is bad. You will have your own oppinion ;)
Seeing how often the priest I 5v5 with complains about having Blessed Resilience chain purged off when he is focused, I think this is a good at least for that bracket. And, really, that change was made with 5v5 in mind.
impel
11-02-2007, 10:47 PM
Anyone else who have tryed this talent out yet?
I have only tryed in duels. So i would like to know what kind of train that would be needed to keep the stacks up? As i said i tryed it in duels, and rogues dont keep up 5 stacks (i know it will be 3 but still). But the rogue i fought were not even close to criting me enouge, it toped at 4 stacks but most of the time i had 0-2.
Even a feraldruid with 40% crit faild to refresh the stack from time to time, and that were in a duel were we I were standing still just to see if he could keep the stack up.
It could be just me, but I think the buff will be small in the lower brackets. Not that a buff are needed.
Kalaren
11-05-2007, 02:14 AM
It is not a magical effect and cannot be purged.
Some may say this is good, some may say this is bad. You will have your own oppinion ;)
How on earth could it be even the slightest bit bad lol
Elrathion
11-05-2007, 03:41 AM
cse I was kinda kinky on the idea of having an extra fakebuff on me each time i got critted :>
I don't really feel squishy at all in any bracket [except in 2v2, facking rogue + mage/spriest :ss]
Timoxa
11-05-2007, 04:20 AM
Imagine bear druid cought in the mid of Nagrand arena, focuse by 3+ dpsers with warriors leading the parade.
What u think, how many crits per second u get from it?
AS far as i know, buff extends to 8 seconds, its has 3 stacks (better then 5 before)
Now look at warrior with sword spec, and his proc. Or fast attacking rogue.
As far as i see, this talent works perfectly with mechanic of our class, we re designed to take slow periodic dmg, preventing burst direct one. Like if we got cought and zerged, we have something to counter to it. Basically its passive 3/4 barkskin under zerg. And it moves our caster armor closer to bear form mitigation.
I havent tested it yet. But as i allways say, any talents, which arent dead end, or % based, unlike fixed amount of something, are good.
Eg static 150 ap in feral form is bad talent, -15% incoming dmg under zerg is good.
Willferral
11-08-2007, 01:06 AM
It is not a magical effect and cannot be purged.
Some may say this is good, some may say this is bad. You will have your own oppinion ;)
This is false.
Natural Perfection is indeed magic and is dispellable.
Tested on PTR.
impel
11-08-2007, 01:34 AM
Changed from 6 to 8sec, even on the PTR not just patch notes.
Meany
11-12-2007, 06:33 AM
Does the 15% stack with barksin?
impel
11-12-2007, 08:05 AM
I feel that druid will be too imba with all the 2.3 buffs =(
Ye natures perfection are greate. But I would call it "the buff" not "all the buffs".
Berenstain
11-13-2007, 02:08 PM
I've read something about Blessed Resilience/Enrage that they proc on hits that would've been crits but were made into normal hits because of resilience. I assume that's how this spell works too, but I'm not really sure. Does anyone know?
For each point of resilience you gain, there's a small adding up chance the "on crit" talents proc. Basically yeah, it can proc off white hits.
impel
11-13-2007, 05:19 PM
I've read something about Blessed Resilience/Enrage that they proc on hits that would've been crits but were made into normal hits because of resilience. I assume that's how this spell works too, but I'm not really sure. Does anyone know?
True in theory, however noone knows what hits that would have been crits without resilience. So we get the next best thing (or better imo), with +10% chance to be crited we also get 10% chanse to procc this of hits. You can try this out with some ability that cant crit, say manaburn. This can still procc natural perfection if you have resilience.
Ridzik
11-13-2007, 05:34 PM
Natural Perfection is indeed magic and is dispellable.
Tested on PTR.
Anyone else able to confirm this? Because I won't spec NP for 2s and 3s but if its magic i'll put 1 point in it.
Dirane
11-13-2007, 06:55 PM
Anyone else able to confirm this? Because I won't spec NP for 2s and 3s but if its magic i'll put 1 point in it.
Yeah can someone confirm this as true because if its dispellable that sux really bad. :(
Tribby
11-14-2007, 12:07 AM
Purgable - but with 5/5 sub, it's still a very very strong talent.
Timoxa
11-14-2007, 01:36 AM
soo now, how do u like this talent.
I heard ppl complaining about rogues, who cant keep it up on you... well, i just did few rounds of 3v3 at 19h bracket, believe me, even hunters pet can keep it up on u sometimes :) so its rly working talent, like mini sl locks have :)
Anyway.. .how u guys feel about this talent, does it rly acts like lifesaver?
impel
11-14-2007, 03:39 AM
I think I said that about not staying up. That were when it was a 5 stack that lasted 6 sec. And I think it were bugged tbh, so it dident get extra proccrate of resilience. You can compleatly ignore what I said before, I like it now. (if it were someone else who said it, I cant realy say that you should ignore them.)
Ridzik
11-14-2007, 04:30 AM
Anyway.. .how u guys feel about this talent, does it rly acts like lifesaver?
For me it's gonna be extra purge protection. Especially with hunters dispelling nowadays having a hunter pet on you might counter that arcane shot buff ;)
Syrna
11-14-2007, 01:31 PM
Someone asked this before, but no one answered: But, does anyone know if this talent stacks with Barkskin? :confused:
For me it's gonna be extra purge protection. Especially with hunters dispelling nowadays having a hunter pet on you might counter that arcane shot buff ;)
Against hunters you will also want to have rank 1 thorns and motw ready.
Davincee
11-14-2007, 07:16 PM
Someone asked this before, but no one answered: But, does anyone know if this talent stacks with Barkskin? :confused:
it does ... 35% redux
vBulletin® v3.8.4, Copyright ©2000-2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.