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Karebear
10-29-2007, 05:25 PM
Anyone have any videos of a good rogue/holy priest 2v2. I'd like to see a bit more how its played :). Any input is appreciated.
Xeanor
10-29-2007, 05:39 PM
It's so rough at higher brackets... anything with a warrior+healer will give you trouble so if I break 2K i'll post some of mine :p
Final
10-29-2007, 07:52 PM
Holy priest+Rogue only does so well because it counters SL/SL locks so well. With the move over to warrior/druid, I don't see this combo doing too well for too much longer.
locoroco
10-29-2007, 08:06 PM
It depends on what target we go after first. My partner and I usually go after the warrior, when it is a druid/warrior combo. I toss SW:P, sometimes DP, keep ALL HOTS off the warrior, and try to fear the druid to interrupt the big heals. My partner of course will lock down the warrior and try to kick/blind the druid when he uses his trinket on my fear.
Right now we're at 2206 and climbing hopefully.
herreth
10-29-2007, 11:04 PM
Im really interested in seeing a good video of this combo as well.
Playing this combo and there are so many matchups id like to see how people play when their playing their best.
As a sidenote, even Sl/sl locks seem to be a pain now a days, because they bloody manadrain my priest. i try to kick it but sometimes with GBC and lack of energy its just annoying.
Tribby
10-29-2007, 11:12 PM
In 2.3, this make up will be revived as rogues will be better equiped against MS warriors... for now you need to just try and avoid warrior teams and beat up on everyone else.
It depends on what target we go after first. My partner and I usually go after the warrior, when it is a druid/warrior combo. I toss SW:P, sometimes DP, keep ALL HOTS off the warrior, and try to fear the druid to interrupt the big heals. My partner of course will lock down the warrior and try to kick/blind the druid when he uses his trinket on my fear.
Right now we're at 2206 and climbing hopefully.
I find this much easier said than done. A good druid won't get anywhere near the rogue or the priest for any period of time long enough where we could a) mana burn, b) fear, c) blind him.
When playing priest/rogue against warrior/druid, I find that we have to play absolutely perfect to win and they have to screw up repeatedly to lose.
Karebear
10-30-2007, 06:58 PM
Thanks theres some good advice in there :) What exactly is happening to rogues to make them better against ms wars. Also anyone have any vids :P
herreth
10-30-2007, 10:27 PM
I have decided upon reading the thread about "What does gladiator mean to you" That im darn sure going to give a hell of a try to get the title. To even be able to do this it would be a huuge asset if i could see a video compilation of a really proper Holy priest/rogue team
So does anyone have or know where there is a good Holy priest/rogue video ?
Ridzik
10-30-2007, 10:36 PM
When playing priest/rogue against warrior/druid, I find that we have to play absolutely perfect to win and they have to screw up repeatedly to lose.
reminds me of playing vs hpriest/rogue as lock/druid :>
Sarian
10-30-2007, 10:39 PM
No idea. I'm in the same boat as you guys. Stuck at a gigantic hump around 2k.
Ridzik
10-30-2007, 10:49 PM
found a fraps from a loss against hpriest/rogue. its just too fucking ridiculous how fast rogues kill. poor druid gets feared in a bad moment or the crucial bash gets resisted and that tiny lil warlock is gone. oh and i kinda hate ruins. that grave is a los-nightmare and favors melees just too fucking much.
http://stage6.divx.com/user/ridzik/video/1790137/2v2-071027-4-pr-ro-L
herreth
10-31-2007, 09:48 PM
found a fraps from a loss against hpriest/rogue. its just too fucking ridiculous how fast rogues kill. poor druid gets feared in a bad moment or the crucial bash gets resisted and that tiny lil warlock is gone. oh and i kinda hate ruins. that grave is a los-nightmare and favors melees just too fucking much.
http://stage6.divx.com/user/ridzik/video/1790137/2v2-071027-4-pr-ro-L
And the rogue was actually pretty damn poor.
He let mana drains tick fully i think? got kited constantly. basicly just sucked.
The druid, which i think was you, did some pretty nifty stuff.
For some reason my priest would usually be OOM if a match went like that, but were usually massively outgeared right now as well considering our rating is alot better than our gear in 2v2. still wearing some horrible karazhan epics for pvp : /
twizta
10-31-2007, 10:56 PM
hmm i think ill make an hpriest/rogue vid.. we have beat some pretty good pally/warrs and shaman/warrs, but druid/warriors are ehh, so i'll start recording and see if we face any tough opponents
herreth
10-31-2007, 11:08 PM
hmm i think ill make an hpriest/rogue vid.. we have beat some pretty good pally/warrs and shaman/warrs, but druid/warriors are ehh, so i'll start recording and see if we face any tough opponents
Please do Twizta. And on a sidenote, me and my priest have actually been having problems against teams we ought to win against, 2dps teams of warlock/rogue and warlock/healer teams, so if you have any matches where you show how to handle these teams id love to see it.
Much appreciated
twizta
11-01-2007, 06:03 AM
Please do Twizta. And on a sidenote, me and my priest have actually been having problems against teams we ought to win against, 2dps teams of warlock/rogue and warlock/healer teams, so if you have any matches where you show how to handle these teams id love to see it.
Much appreciated
we rly never have problems with lock/healer.. cept lock/druids give us hardtime sometimes, but facin a 2dps team that has a rogue, not gonna lie havin a dwarf priest with stoneform = imba against that 2dps w/rogue 0.o
Ridzik
11-01-2007, 06:32 AM
Herreth, the point is kiting is possible but requires 5+ minutes with almost no mistake or bad luck. One lucky moment for the rogue/priest team and its over. When my trinket is on CD, one fear, one blind and my lock is down before I can move again or if he survived is a manasink because wound poison will be stacked 5 times and I wont have the time to properly los the priest.
matches vs rogue/priest are kinda fun and pain in the ass at the same time.
Taffie
11-01-2007, 06:54 AM
found a fraps from a loss against hpriest/rogue. its just too fucking ridiculous how fast rogues kill. poor druid gets feared in a bad moment or the crucial bash gets resisted and that tiny lil warlock is gone. oh and i kinda hate ruins. that grave is a los-nightmare and favors melees just too fucking much.
http://stage6.divx.com/user/ridzik/video/1790137/2v2-071027-4-pr-ro-L
Wow -- I'm suprised that your arena rating is only 2k. You're pretty good. (And so is your partner)
Zione
11-01-2007, 07:30 AM
got kited constantly. basicly just sucked.
/
Damn, he got kited vs. a warlock/druid team, what a noob.................
herreth
11-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Damn, he got kited vs. a warlock/druid team, what a noob.................
Well shiv is just one button away. He cant get blessing of freedom so why the hell should he ever get out of range. Short of getting cycloned.
Didnt intend to diss the rogue im sure he plays well.
In the rogues defense he did get one of the worst starts, which is just to be expected against a stealth druid with felhunter detection
Acelinee
11-05-2007, 04:46 AM
Abolsih Poison Herreth, abolish poison...
Cyclone, entangling roots, etc :)
Kokoro
11-06-2007, 05:28 AM
hmm i think ill make an hpriest/rogue vid.. we have beat some pretty good pally/warrs and shaman/warrs, but druid/warriors are ehh, so i'll start recording and see if we face any tough opponents
i want to see i hear that sureon kid is beast
xforce27
11-06-2007, 06:55 AM
Priest Rogue VS Druid Lock
I havent seen a lot of videos in the druid PoV so watching that just made me realize how ridiculously easy it is to play a druid. However as priest-rogue, fighting druid lock isnt too bad at all. The trick i found was spam as much manaburns on the lock at the start as possible. Manaburn = 1k dmg when the lock lifetaps and this dmg goes right thru soul link. You gotta hit them early, and if ur partnered with a combat rogue, u wanna stay next to him while hes stunning the lock so that when he pops adren rush and blade flurry (and tell him to pop this early), hes hitting both the lock and his pet. This is pretty much GG right here against any lock druid team. The dps dealt to the lock requires the druid to heal rather than try to CC because the lock can go down really fast with this method.
Once u get to the point when the lock is oom and needs to lifetap ur pretty close to winning already. Start dispelling his HoTs and the abolish poison, but watch for lifebloom until the lock starts lifetapping (so probably u'll just get like one dispell off here since if they dont lifetap quickly theres no dps on their team). Lifetapping consumes such an important GCD, allowing the priest to mana burn again before he can actually cast anything.
Positioning is pretty important. Always with druids you want to be in a tight place, walls around u and such. Since lock is the main target you get to choose where the fight will start. My rogue doesnt even bother being stealthed when we see this combo. He stays on his mount, rushes the lock when he gets in a good position and starts stunlocking him and i'm right behind spamming manaburns, watching the stuns so i can dispel fear (coil) from my rogue immediately. Stand close enuf for my rogue to hit the felhunter, far enuf so that howl of terror will not hit me. These minute details become the difference of winning and losing.
Positioning in Nagrand for example is by the pillars, but close to the walls facing a corner. Being very close to wall is important, one fear can take the druid out of LoS, and blinds will be easier to execute. Similar kind of idea in other arenas.
I think thats about it, it shouldnt be very difficult to take this team down (if the felhunter is down the game is yours). Be smart and prepare yourself to drink by topping off ur guy and finding a corner or wall thats out of LoS, every tick counts when ur fighting against druids.
Of course I might be a little biased when I say this team is easy because I'm a dwarf :D. My team eventually topped out at 2100 on our ridiculously gay BG that has war/pal war/druid everywhere past 2k. and against these teams is when u stop playing this combo and spec shadow or go in a corner and cry.
Xeanor
11-10-2007, 11:33 AM
Priest Rogue VS Druid Lock
I havent seen a lot of videos in the druid PoV so watching that just made me realize how ridiculously easy it is to play a druid. However as priest-rogue, fighting druid lock isnt too bad at all. The trick i found was spam as much manaburns on the lock at the start as possible. Manaburn = 1k dmg when the lock lifetaps and this dmg goes right thru soul link. You gotta hit them early, and if ur partnered with a combat rogue, u wanna stay next to him while hes stunning the lock so that when he pops adren rush and blade flurry (and tell him to pop this early), hes hitting both the lock and his pet. This is pretty much GG right here against any lock druid team. The dps dealt to the lock requires the druid to heal rather than try to CC because the lock can go down really fast with this method.
Once u get to the point when the lock is oom and needs to lifetap ur pretty close to winning already. Start dispelling his HoTs and the abolish poison, but watch for lifebloom until the lock starts lifetapping (so probably u'll just get like one dispell off here since if they dont lifetap quickly theres no dps on their team). Lifetapping consumes such an important GCD, allowing the priest to mana burn again before he can actually cast anything.
Positioning is pretty important. Always with druids you want to be in a tight place, walls around u and such. Since lock is the main target you get to choose where the fight will start. My rogue doesnt even bother being stealthed when we see this combo. He stays on his mount, rushes the lock when he gets in a good position and starts stunlocking him and i'm right behind spamming manaburns, watching the stuns so i can dispel fear (coil) from my rogue immediately. Stand close enuf for my rogue to hit the felhunter, far enuf so that howl of terror will not hit me. These minute details become the difference of winning and losing.
Positioning in Nagrand for example is by the pillars, but close to the walls facing a corner. Being very close to wall is important, one fear can take the druid out of LoS, and blinds will be easier to execute. Similar kind of idea in other arenas.
I think thats about it, it shouldnt be very difficult to take this team down (if the felhunter is down the game is yours). Be smart and prepare yourself to drink by topping off ur guy and finding a corner or wall thats out of LoS, every tick counts when ur fighting against druids.
Of course I might be a little biased when I say this team is easy because I'm a dwarf :D. My team eventually topped out at 2100 on our ridiculously gay BG that has war/pal war/druid everywhere past 2k. and against these teams is when u stop playing this combo and spec shadow or go in a corner and cry.
Exactly, anything with a lock+healer is easy. If you stand on top of the warlock and have a good rogue that interupts every mana burn like mine did, you can just stand there spamming mana burn on the enemy healer kuz he'll have to pop in view eventually and get hit by your precast. HoTs and the occasional gheal is enough to heal the rogue against the lock.
locoroco
11-11-2007, 07:18 AM
I find this much easier said than done. A good druid won't get anywhere near the rogue or the priest for any period of time long enough where we could a) mana burn, b) fear, c) blind him.
When playing priest/rogue against warrior/druid, I find that we have to play absolutely perfect to win and they have to screw up repeatedly to lose.
I was having this problem too, but my partner told me the key is to aggressively drink when you have the chance. It forces the druid to stop what he's doing and stay inside the 5sr or melee you (which means he stays in combat and can't drink while you can get a few ticks of water off).
My 2's rating went down a lot because of a few games I played terribly in. Every time we win we get 5-10 points. And every time we lose, we lose 19-25 points. :(
herreth
11-29-2007, 09:27 PM
So... Videos! Back to topic
Does anyone have some holydisc priest/rogue videos that they can share, id love to see how others play this combo
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