View Full Version : How important is hitting Gladiator to you?
Taffie
10-29-2007, 04:11 PM
Hey. :) I was just curious on your opinion.
My 2v2 team is consisted of myself (a resto Druid), and a MS warrior friend of mine. We've recently hit 2013. My warrior friend has around 200 resiliance, gorehowl (lol), 30k honor saved up, and almost 5k arena points saved up. I've got around 135 resiliance with 2 arena parts, the honor bracers, and the trinket. I have 75k honor saved up for next season and will soon have 5k points saved up.
In our current battlegroup, we would need exactly 101 points to hit gladiator. To be safe, 117.
Is it worth it to royally screw ourselves over next season just to hit gladiator? If we spent all of our points I have little doubt that it wouldn't be possible, but still; there is a chance that we wouldn't make it (just my luck, 10 points away or something.)
So, I ask you, how important is gladiator to you? Enough to risk the next season just for a cool title and a 30% faster mount?
Biosafety
10-29-2007, 04:16 PM
gladiator is the most important thing in the game really.
getting 117 rating is a joke at 2k, you should def go for it
Ps: my team and i are going for merc glad and its just fun to brag about it
and 30% IS SO FAST
kyoshi
10-29-2007, 04:17 PM
wow...listen, keep pushing. don't stop because inactive teams will not be counted and you may fuck yourself and your team without realizing it.
to answer your question, it means something to me...its pretty important. alot of time spent learning/gearing/stressing over a game and a goal. my goal was to hit gladiator. ill have that at the end of the season...
but again, don't just get there and stop. thats dumb. keep climbing, because arena is dynamic. my team stopped at like 2nd? and now the highest team is at over 2500's. and my team is like 11th. don't just plant yourself. keep going up!
Zephira
10-29-2007, 04:26 PM
It's huge man = )
I got duelist last season and was like "Wow this is great" and have spent this entire season working to get to the top. Last week my 5v5 started ascending past the 2k mark - 100 points in a week. You just gotta be on top of your game when you make the push and play smart. If you queue against a team ya can't beat, take 5 and discuss how you will beat them if you face them again. Don't just settle for 10 games played a week. Like Bio said, 117 rating is easy to do at 2k. And like Kyoshi said, keep it up = )
Arena's are fun and the feeling of coming out that far on top is the best.
Draine
10-29-2007, 04:38 PM
I would never stop playing Arena because my "gladiator title" would be "save" for the upcoming season. Arena is the only thing in wow that keeps me playing it :(
Going for glad is the only reason TO play. :)
Spellock
10-29-2007, 04:42 PM
getting and keeping gladiator is what it's all about. personally, i'm about to risk my chance of doing so in season 2 for the sake of pursuing a better coming season by forming a new 5v5 to run with. at the heart of it, though... that is what it's all about. striving to be the best and remain the best.
Taffie
10-29-2007, 04:46 PM
Yeah, we only play 10 games a week.
It's a difficult decision, though, because I'm not too sure if my team exactly has what it takes to hit almost 2200. We've gone a long way, though, from 1500 & there won't be another chance to hit glad until the x-pack.
The games that we win now are pretty close cuts. We fight a lot of 20 minute warrior/druid teams where it ends up with whoever has more gear or a lucky crit.
The hardest teams we lose to are basically warrior/paladin (usually just go all out on the warrior while ccing the pally. Hard when you've got a warrior chewing you up or the paladin being smart about bear charges), anything with a warlock (thank god for soul siphon and drain mana nerf 2.3), sometimes good silence dps teams (hard in 2ks because we have so little resil. & they're usually decked), and although rare hunter/priest teams (with his trusty poison snakes, scorp., & viper sting).
Keline
10-29-2007, 04:48 PM
It's the reason I'm so incredibly pissed the season doesn't end with 2.3.
I was cheated out of my S1 Gladiator to begin with, I want it already.
Eloderung
10-29-2007, 05:10 PM
Just go for it. Hit a good threshold (be sure of this - I lost Gladiator by 4 points or so season one, even when I was 14 ranks above threshold) due to the massive amount of games that are played the night before a new season.
You'll eventually hit a nice streak of wins at one point, and that is your best chance of getting Gladiator if you're on the threshold.
kyoshi
10-29-2007, 05:17 PM
Yeah, we only play 10 games a week.
It's a difficult decision, though, because I'm not too sure if my team exactly has what it takes to hit almost 2200. We've gone a long way, though, from 1500 & there won't be another chance to hit glad until the x-pack.
The games that we win now are pretty close cuts. We fight a lot of 20 minute warrior/druid teams where it ends up with whoever has more gear or a lucky crit.
The hardest teams we lose to are basically warrior/paladin (usually just go all out on the warrior while ccing the pally. Hard when you've got a warrior chewing you up or the paladin being smart about bear charges), anything with a warlock (thank god for soul siphon and drain mana nerf 2.3), sometimes good silence dps teams (hard in 2ks because we have so little resil. & they're usually decked), and although rare hunter/priest teams (with his trusty poison snakes, scorp., & viper sting).
another reason to keep going is you need the gear...135 resilience =/ you guys must get lucky as crap, cause my drood would have died ALOT more if he only had that. you gotta rock more. its not lucky crit. its you dont have the resi to prevent the crit. and that warrior chews through you again, because of lack of resi and probably HP because of the lack of resi gear.
by no means am i trying to discrourage you, but you have to understand that without the correct gearing, you are already at a disadvantage against the other team. good luck! get that gear!
chicosr
10-29-2007, 05:24 PM
Gladiator is the MOST IMPORTANT thing to me. If I was you and you have those pts stocked up for s3. Use them to upgrade everything you can now so you can ensure your rank and not get beat by a team just because they outgear you. I'm sure those wins that you barely won would have been a bit easier with a bit more gear, so dont risk it imo.
Taffie
10-29-2007, 05:34 PM
Do you guys believe that my 135 res. change to around 400 or his from 200 to around 450 will make atleast a 100 point difference?
Just go for it. Hit a good threshold (be sure of this - I lost Gladiator by 4 points or so season one, even when I was 14 ranks above threshold) due to the massive amount of games that are played the night before a new season.
Woah, that really sucks. We're the second best on our server at the moment for 2v2 but I have no doubt in my mind that the other 135 people or so ahead of us will be pvping non-stop to try and make it.
leogeo2
10-29-2007, 05:35 PM
Hm, I don't find Gladiator as important as just having loads of fun with your friends. My 3s was 2270 last week and my 5s was near 2200 at the beginning of the season, but even if we dropped heavily I don't mind really as long as I'm having a good time.
Maybe if my partners really want to go for it, we'll work our asses off for it. But I'm not as concerned about. I'd get a mount that I would never ride and get a title that I'd never wear. High Warlord looks better then Gladiator.
chicosr
10-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Do you guys believe that my 135 res. change to around 400 or his from 200 to around 450 will make atleast a 100 point difference?
No doubt in my mind.
extremely due to the fact that the lock i was playing with sold his account instead of pushing glad with me, just to spite him by obtaining it.
Taffie: You're a druid. Shouldn't take much more to reach the gladiator rank.
Duckers
10-29-2007, 07:04 PM
It's my only incentive to grind 5k gold for this alt. :(
Flesseck
10-29-2007, 07:18 PM
I lost Gladiator last season because my 5v5 team wasn't consistent throughout the season in terms of just getting games in and practicing, and when we played the very last day and went up by like 150 points, it still wasn't enough for Gladiator. I was so disappointed that I was determined to get Gladiator season no matter what.
Even now, though, we play about 10 games a week. We're 2285 now with about 200 games played. So my advice is just keep going and keep pushing. Play and practice, practice, practice.
Branket
10-29-2007, 07:23 PM
Doesnt mean anything even mediocre players like myself can get it in a couple of days on bg9.. maybe if they added a cash prize or a trip to disneyland people might care
Taffie
10-29-2007, 07:34 PM
Doesnt mean anything even mediocre players like myself can get it in a couple of days on bg9.. maybe if they added a cash prize or a trip to disneyland people might care
Let me go get my credit card! =P
Shadowborne
10-29-2007, 07:42 PM
Doesnt mean anything even mediocre players like myself can get it in a couple of days on bg9.. maybe if they added a cash prize or a trip to disneyland people might care
Mediocore? You're pretty damn good branket.
On topic I really think you guys should push for Gladiator next season.
What matters more, having a 3-4 week headstart for S3 or having a title that you only have a chance of obtaining every 6 months?
It's also accomplishing something, anyone can turtle points to get gear the first day the patch comes out, not everybody can say they got a gladiator rank :)
Snuffy
10-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Doesnt mean anything even mediocre players like myself can get it in a couple of days on bg9.. maybe if they added a cash prize or a trip to disneyland people might care
brankets my secret lover btw
edit:
on topic though, it's not really important to me, but i want the mount, since i like how it looks
Kcolraw
10-29-2007, 08:44 PM
well seeing as how i got glad last season i think it'd be pretty embarassing if i don't get it this season
kyoshi
10-30-2007, 01:53 AM
Do you guys believe that my 135 res. change to around 400 or his from 200 to around 450 will make atleast a 100 point difference?
yes. no doubt in my mind. i can almost bet on it. my druid rocked 400+ and so did I and thats is the only reason he could survive a MS warrior beating his face, rogues beating his face, and hunter pew pew easier. it just makes it a little bit easier.
xforce27
10-30-2007, 02:10 AM
GLAD OR DIE
I don't care about hitting gladiator as much as I want the merc gladiator title. Although, with them doing cuts on inactive teams, I do think the gladiator title will hold a little more merit. Even with the cuts though, warrior/warlock and druid teams don't really have to even be above average to get the title.
Kamikazeoi
10-30-2007, 12:06 PM
I wasn't really serious about Arena at all 1st season and now having lost my job a few months ago , going for Gladiator gives me something to push for. Since my guild has BT/Hyjal on farm and only raids 3 days a week I have lots of extra time to put into upping my rating.
It's been a ton of fun so far and getting the title means a lot to me. I also really want the mount... =X
Arjun
10-30-2007, 12:34 PM
do it taffie
Bullyfoot
10-30-2007, 01:13 PM
I am in the same boat basically. I say go for it. I know we are gonna try.
Diluted
10-30-2007, 01:24 PM
Hitting Gladiator is the only thing pushing me to play this game.
Foredoomed
10-30-2007, 01:39 PM
Not important at all since the only thing you get is another Netherdrake.. -_-,
Taffie
10-30-2007, 02:34 PM
do it taffie
<3 Arjun
talk him into it!
Not important at all since the only thing you get is another Netherdrake.. -_-,
I'm resto, I don't have the Netherdrake yet. ); And becides, have you not seen the cute little flag they're adding next patch?
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My partner doesn't want to do it because he'll be busy the next month or so and he doesn't want to lose all the points and then not get it.
Personally, I think we should go for it now. Thanks for the help.
Tekzor
10-30-2007, 02:44 PM
I just want a drake, and I refuse to do the SMV dailys
Hexagon
10-30-2007, 03:33 PM
I would be very embarrassed if I did not earn gladiator again this season.
You'll have plenty of time to earn arena points in season 3... plenty of time to get all the gear you want, and compete for gladiator at the end of season 3.
Don't save points for season 3 if you need them to win in season 2. I already have all my s2 armor, merc 2h axe, merc xbow, and the 1h swords for fun. I have 5k points saved, and I might buy the offhand caster book just for giggles.
What is my point? If you are close to gladiator right now, you will have no problem with arena points in season 3... so why save them? At the end of season 1, I only had the glad xbow and 3 pieces of glad armor. I am very happy that I spent all my points before season 1 ended.
Alastar
10-30-2007, 03:48 PM
Quite important for me, only reason i play arena atm
Blessox
10-30-2007, 08:02 PM
Striving to reach gladiator is the fun part of playing in arena's its what makes arena's competitive.
Ilyria
10-30-2007, 08:15 PM
It's the most important thing in the game...until you have it.
Then you want more. That's just human nature.
padrote
10-31-2007, 01:09 PM
I want it for the mount. I have epic riding but never bothered to spend the extra 200g for the flyer.
Phiers
10-31-2007, 01:19 PM
The difference between s2 and s3 gear won't be so huge that spending your points now means you're screwed next season. If you can get possible significant benefits now, why save for minor benefits next season?
Duraeas
10-31-2007, 02:00 PM
The difference between s2 and s3 gear won't be so huge that spending your points now means you're screwed next season. If you can get possible significant benefits now, why save for minor benefits next season?
Gladiator is what separates you from all the "very good" (and below) players out there. It is, in my opinion, one of the only things in this game that makes you genuinely stand out as a player.
Daghost
10-31-2007, 08:06 PM
Some people say that "it's just a name" well to me, it's just the name I want above my head. I jewed myself out of Glad title in season 1 because my mage friend quit (2v2 2318 - PizzaHut Pimps) and I thought that being in a Black Temple guild would overcome my love for pvp and wanting of a glad title. Damn I was wrong, now that I am on a pve server it's hard as hell to find competent and smart players. I've finally found 2 players, but being this close and them not being used to the 2k bracket is kind of hard. It's gut wrenching at times. So maybe it's because I missed out for S1 and now that I have another oppurtunity and I'm close, just puts a sour taste in my mouth knowing that I may not get it.
kyoshi
10-31-2007, 08:40 PM
Some people say that "it's just a name" well to me, it's just the name I want above my head. I jewed myself out of Glad title in season 1 because my mage friend quit (2v2 2318 - PizzaHut Pimps) and I thought that being in a Black Temple guild would overcome my love for pvp and wanting of a glad title. Damn I was wrong, now that I am on a pve server it's hard as hell to find competent and smart players. I've finally found 2 players, but being this close and them not being used to the 2k bracket is kind of hard. It's gut wrenching at times. So maybe it's because I missed out for S1 and now that I have another oppurtunity and I'm close, just puts a sour taste in my mouth knowing that I may not get it.
wow what a great way to piss off alot of jews.
I would never stop playing Arena because my "gladiator title" would be "save" for the upcoming season. Arena is the only thing in wow that keeps me playing it :(
i think when i retake 2k on my 2v2, im going to call it quits and make 5v5 points for the rest of the season to be honoest. going from 2080--> 1880 makes me really sad :(
anubis
10-31-2007, 09:03 PM
I'd really like to get glad but 3s is just struggeling between 2100 and 2200 and that just isn't enough =(
gota keep goin tho...
Ghalanah
10-31-2007, 09:38 PM
Gladiator isn't as important to me as improving my skills as a hunter/kiter. I ultimately enjoy this game for dueling (lol) and arena allows me to test scenarios on how well I can use my abilities to counter another class no matter what the situation. Gladiator is pretty much the icing on the cake as far as a reward goes. E-status is cool and all but having something to bring a guild together (or apart lol) makes the game a little more interesting.
That being said blizz took a step in the right direction adding merciless gladiator. I don't like sitting around now that we ultimately have decided our ratings have peaked.
Daghost
11-01-2007, 01:33 PM
wow what a great way to piss off alot of jews.
They're already pissed off at the fact their jewish :P. jk
Spheniscus
11-01-2007, 01:39 PM
This is my first arena season and me and my partner are really pushing to gladiator, right now without the inactive removal we get it, but we are pushing higher so we don't get screwed out. It was be AWESOME if we got it
I place too much importance on it, and I consciously try to care about it less. I don't plan to wear the title, but I'd really love to have a netherdrake, I even want two just to get two different flags on them.
I tell myself that it's just a game, a lot of it is based around luck, and how high I rank in the end will be relatively meaningless. The main thing I like to do is to play against top rated teams, it makes my heart race knowing we are playing a top 5 team. Hey, if we lose, we'll lose 5 points maybe. If we lose to some scrub team that is a counter to us, then lose 28 points, it's really frustrating.
Kadrix
11-01-2007, 05:04 PM
It's massively important to me. If my 2v2 reaches, we will be 1 of 2 Rogue/Paladin teams with it in BG9. I originally played a mage, and gave up on arenas with him. Running a strange matrix, and managing to get in the top 0.5% in BG9 with it will make me damned happy. Only thing I will regret is farming 5k for the epic training :)
TBH i reeally don't care about gladiator, there so much crap players that have this title. It's just the drake.
I fot glad x3 last season, i could get 3x too this time or even MERC if i put the time to do it but i really don't bother with it.
We'll be migrating on the most populated battleground at the end or maybe before the end of the season to play more and to have much more challenge. THIS is better for us than a glad title.
Taffie
11-02-2007, 10:34 PM
Some people say that "it's just a name" well to me, it's just the name I want above my head. I jewed myself out of Glad title in season 1 because my mage friend quit (2v2 2318 - PizzaHut Pimps) and I thought that being in a Black Temple guild would overcome my love for pvp and wanting of a glad title. Damn I was wrong, now that I am on a pve server it's hard as hell to find competent and smart players. I've finally found 2 players, but being this close and them not being used to the 2k bracket is kind of hard. It's gut wrenching at times. So maybe it's because I missed out for S1 and now that I have another oppurtunity and I'm close, just puts a sour taste in my mouth knowing that I may not get it.
Hehe, I know what you mean on that one. I hate being on a PvE server. And, on top of that, my server is low population! The highest 2v2 is 2050.
Seriously? Go for it. Who cares if you can get S3 gear on the first day it comes out. You'd be getting it a week or two later anyway if you can get gladiator. And the S2->S3 gear gap really isn't that big.
Taffie
11-04-2007, 03:38 PM
Thanks a bunch for all the comments/help.
Today we bought all the gear and made a small push (played more than 10 games for our first time!), easily getting us to 2100.
Seeing a lot of skilled players, it's pretty hard, and sad to say we were at 2150 but dropped by a lot when I got a DC.
The only issue I'm having now is, instead of needing to get 2150, we now need to get 2200 to get glad in this battlegroup. Hopefully there will be more than 4 weeks left this season so I can get more arena gear. ;D
Cheers,
Taffie
Personally, Hitting Glad is just a random plus, if i get it; great, if i don't; shrug.
IMO Glad titles don't mean that much from 2v2 and 3v3; I played war druid since my druid hit 70 a few weeks into s1, and it is truly amazing how much the slight buffs and changes (lifebloom stacking and ability to drink) altered the druid game play in 2v2.
In fact for 2v2, unless your not war / healer or lock / x, the title is joke of wow's pvp balance.
but as said, it's not worth the woot 5 stat upgrades of the first day of s3
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