View Full Version : Silent Resolve as a spriest
Privilege
10-29-2007, 03:21 AM
I've always been wondering if Silent Resolve makes my dots have less chance to be dispelled, has anyone been able to test this? Would really help against pala's, would give them several more gcd's to get everything off their dispelling target.
Final
10-29-2007, 03:53 AM
I've always been wondering if Silent Resolve makes my dots have less chance to be dispelled, has anyone been able to test this? Would really help against pala's, would give them several more gcd's to get everything off their dispelling target.
No, for some reason blizzard decided that it'd only work for disc spells although it doesn't state it.
ecco23
10-29-2007, 11:36 AM
it works for all your buffs and debuff, and its actually a pretty decent talent.
2/2 fort and 1/3 shield vs 3/5 silent resolve, its a kinda interesting choice
buena
10-29-2007, 01:45 PM
No, for some reason blizzard decided that it'd only work for disc spells although it doesn't state it.
Are you sure? The wording would suggest all offensive and defensive spells. But if it's actually only DISCIPLINE spells.... that doesn't include renew or prom!?
Seriously?
anubis
10-29-2007, 03:44 PM
It includes all spells. Your sw:p will be harder for a pally to dispel, I've done some testing and as a shadow priest I feel it is not worth the 5 points.
Privilege
10-29-2007, 05:15 PM
Can anybody confirm that it works for 100% sure? If so I'm probably going to respec to: http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/priest/talents.html?5052023100020000000000000000000000000 00000050232210251123051051
It's mainly a change in my talent build for my 2v2 so that I do more damage and the pala/priest spends more time dispelling.
Final
10-29-2007, 07:56 PM
It includes all spells. Your sw:p will be harder for a pally to dispel, I've done some testing and as a shadow priest I feel it is not worth the 5 points.
Have you done any testing on this? Because last time I checked it didn't effect SW:Pain at all.
As to the poster a few above me, I'm not sure about renew or Prom I'd have to check that out again heh.
anubis
10-29-2007, 08:34 PM
Have you done any testing on this? Because last time I checked it didn't effect SW:Pain at all.
As to the poster a few above me, I'm not sure about renew or Prom I'd have to check that out again heh.
I didn't like write out all my test results and what not, but me and my pally friend tested it. First I spec'd out of it and would stack 5 shadow vulns and a sw:p and he would dispel. Then I did the same with 5/5 silent resolve. When I was spec'd 5/5 silent resolve he had a harder time getting rid of all the debuffs... but I mean, to me it wasn't worth it because if you're going up against any priest teams it's GG. just not worth the 5 points imo
Shouri
10-30-2007, 02:32 AM
5 points is way too much for such a little resist rate.
Privilege
10-30-2007, 03:15 AM
20% is almost the same as the affliction warlock dots and hell, I sometimes get 3 or 4 resists in a row when dispelling lock dots and they dont even have shadow vulnerability. I think it's worth it but I'll test it and see what works better.
I know the spriest I play with has 4/5 silent resolve. I'm pretty sure the main reason behind it is to prevent his silence and dots from being removed. Since mana burn for a shadow priest is generally unnecessary, you have a couple of extra points that you can put into silent resolve.
ecco23
10-30-2007, 01:01 PM
you need manaburn too, what you dont REALLY need is 2/2 fort and 2/3 pw:s thats 4/5 sr right there and as i said early this thread yes its all buffs and debuffs and it can buy your team a lot of gcd of the shaman / priest gets chain resists in dispell
you need manaburn too, what you dont REALLY need is 2/2 fort and 2/3 pw:s thats 4/5 sr right there and as i said early this thread yes its all buffs and debuffs and it can buy your team a lot of gcd of the shaman / priest gets chain resists in dispell
you dont NEED mana burn...if you're going to sit there and mana burn the whole time, go disc/holy...
Privilege
10-30-2007, 03:28 PM
well speccing 20/0/41 and then not get imp mana burn is kinda weird imo and not really smart, there's been times that we would have lost from a team in 5v5 if I had not have imp mana burn.
Yentull
10-30-2007, 03:58 PM
for 2v2 you dont really need mana burn but for 5v5, if you dont have mana burn it can get quite messy against some teams. As for back on discussion, Silent resolve is alright but I personally dont care for it too much. It all depends on how I feel about my spec that day, I respec atleast once a week for pvp or pve or a combination of both. If I was going full pvp I would probaly drop a point or 2 from imp pws and get silent resolve.
buena
10-30-2007, 04:46 PM
20 disc without getting mana burn is extremely silly imo. 2 points for a huge benefit on a spell that surely you can find some good time to use.
ecco23
10-30-2007, 07:38 PM
you dont NEED mana burn...if you're going to sit there and mana burn the whole time, go disc/holy...
i use manaburn in like 1/15 games in 5v5, but its the games we get +1 instead of -30 that make it a must have. its very situational for shadow, but you still need it in the long run ( READ: NEED )
Blessox
10-30-2007, 07:48 PM
But does this 20% resist also counts for BoF and BoP being cast on you?
Shouri
10-30-2007, 07:54 PM
I always mana burn, even sometimes on mages and such I don't see how anyone can go without imp. This is in 3v3 mainly though. Besides, it's the only way I beat good frost mages who use their WE every time almost in duels.
i use manaburn in like 1/15 games in 5v5, but its the games we get +1 instead of -30 that make it a must have. its very situational for shadow, but you still need it in the long run ( READ: NEED )
Well, extremely high rated priests do just fine, and they don't have it. So, I'm curious what your definition of "need" is.
ecco23
10-31-2007, 08:59 AM
http://www.geekboys.org/arena/index/5/all/priest/all/all/
count for yourself, you will finde 2-3 priests without it in top 150
( not counting ppl who are obviously pve spec atm )
Please, go to www.dictionary.com and look up "need."
If you don't have to have it in order to do well, it's not needed. If some people don't have it, and they do well (hell, if even one person does well without it) then your argument of it being needed is proven wrong.
Yes, some people use it often, however some people don't. So, your playstyle dictates whether it is a talent that you will or won't want to pick up. It's not a requirement to do well.
Privilege
10-31-2007, 10:31 AM
Haha, this thread has gotten way off topic. :cool:
Haha, this thread has gotten way off topic. :cool:
In conclusion, silent resolve is worth at least a few points. Look at your playstyle in order to determine how you're going to move around your points.
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