Fel Concentration

[Soey]

Does fel concentration stack with pally's concentration aura?

I was told yes by some people and no by others >.>

Also.. what about the 50% fear on arena gloves stacking with concentration aura?

Cheers.

[Shadowborne]

They both stack. Hence the reason 5/5 is useless with Paladin WHEN he is using conc aura.

[Soey]

Cheers for prompt reply Shadowborne :)

[soulbane]

They both stack. Hence the reason 5/5 is useless with Paladin WHEN he is using conc aura.

i noticed you only have 1/5 fel, why not go 2 or 3 in it?

and when do you use cow..is the 20% stronger noticeable?

[Shadowborne]

i noticed you only have 1/5 fel, why not go 2 or 3 in it?

and when do you use cow..is the 20% stronger noticeable?


1/5 fel is a filler. I honestly find the talent to be useless with the way I play. What classes is fel concentration useful against? Warriors and Rogues. Both of these classes are going to shut you down regardless of having this talent through stuns, interrupts, silences, and even certain procs.

420 attack power is very good, sometimes when my healer needs to go drink, I'll throw up CoW and drain-tank to let him get as many ticks of as possible before he has to come heal me. In 5v5, 420 attack power reduction on all Melee is amazing and in 3v3, we ignore warriors and throw CoW on them and with no rage generation they hit like wet noodles.

[Phiers]

I'm confused by what's being said here. Are you saying Fel Conc isn't worthwhile at all, or that a lock can go 4/5 assuming he'll have conc aura?

[Tirax]

I'm confused by what's being said here. Are you saying Fel Conc isn't worthwhile at all, or that a lock can go 4/5 assuming he'll have conc aura?

With a paladin 4/5 will give you 100%, making 5/5 worthless assuming you will have a paladin with conc aura up.

[Shadowborne]

I'm confused by what's being said here. Are you saying Fel Conc isn't worthwhile at all, or that a lock can go 4/5 assuming he'll have conc aura?

4/5 Fel Concentration is really all you need with a Paladin.

However, I'm saying I don't find the talent particularly useful.

[Antega]

4/5 Fel Concentration is really all you need with a Paladin.

However, I'm saying I don't find the talent particularly useful.

Just wondering then, how do you manage to drain a healers mana when a warrior is hitting on you?

[Amenti]

Just wondering then, how do you manage to drain a healers mana when a warrior is hitting on you?

Try backing out of a spell, forcing him to waste a pummel. Or do your best to kite him around with CoEx if he happens to not have hamstring on you for some reason.

[Shadowborne]

Just wondering then, how do you manage to drain a healers mana when a warrior is hitting on you?

I recast drain mana, that's the thing about it you can sit there and recast it over and over. Fel Conc would be worth picking up if it was all affliction spells like fear and iHoT but as is not worth it IMO.

[laydee]

The best way to mana drain is dot them up first and then use mana drain, agaisnt all healers. They will go oom faster then, not sure after the patch though.

[Amenti]

After the patch it will be a flat 200 mana per tick unfortunately, assuming my memory is correct.

[Demnok]

I recast drain mana, that's the thing about it you can sit there and recast it over and over. Fel Conc would be worth picking up if it was all affliction spells like fear and iHoT but as is not worth it IMO.

I find myself in dozens of situations in 2v2 wherein I've got a pet/warrior beating on me while I'm chasing a pillarboy. Without Fel Conc. in this situation you'll start a drain only to have them LoS you and the melee kills your channel. How do you not feel gimped in this situation?

The above situation is actually the exact reason I specced for it.

[laydee]

If you're chasing someone trying to run around a piller, you're playing wrong. You've got to FORCE them with damage to show.

With a priest, I don't even bother using mana drain agaisnt warrior + healer combos (except druid) - as unless you do mass damage and CC the paladin you're priest will be dead long before their healer is oom as you're not pressuring him enough to not run away.

[soulbane]

im finding myself get fewer and fewer mana drains off against war/healer teams (priest/druid) as once theyve pummeled mana drain the druid can hot the warrior up and los til next pummel is up again easily

on another note, does anyone have a mod that tracks the use of pummel? i never know if theyve used it or not which makes it harder to fake cast i guess