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efa
10-18-2007, 08:17 PM
As title, SL/SL dont have the dps output and so the druid can drink all day long.
There is no point to go SL if so much efford need to keep the pet alive.
Critickle
10-18-2007, 08:21 PM
As title, SL/SL dont have the dps output and so the druid can drink all day long.
There is no point to go SL if so much efford need to keep the pet alive.

I think UA would be worse.
razed
10-18-2007, 08:43 PM
hahah rofl
Shadowborne
10-18-2007, 09:48 PM
That's probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. UA would do even worse.
efa
10-19-2007, 02:16 AM
Haha, yea seeing there is no high rating UA lock + healer combo with a good win rate, I am guessing it wont work.
But its really sick to play against druid warrior combo specially in the BEM map where the druid can just jump off the bridge and drink up behind the piller.

SL/SL spec (with pet up) dont have the burst to kill the warrior, needless to say
its not easy to keep the pet up.

Really want to try something new to gain more advantage on this sick warrior druid combo.
Shadowborne
10-19-2007, 02:40 AM
Superpaul has a really nice video of a unique strategy to beat druid/warrior, it relies on putting heavy pressure on the warrior to prevent the druid from drinking.

It's not impossible, just by far our hardest fight.
kyoshi
10-19-2007, 03:08 AM
druid/warrior is easy as 23/38 with a druid. yea its boring and long but its easy. just be patient. pull out a VW. problem solved...
efa
10-19-2007, 06:31 AM
Its not easy to find a restore druid to team with :(
Gihelle
10-19-2007, 06:47 AM
Druid/Warrior is fairly easy against my Paladin/Warlock combo, as long as you can keep your blueberry out of the LOS of the Warrior, your Pally can keep the Druid in combat and you can survive 10s of Cyclonespam.
efa
10-19-2007, 06:58 AM
Yea I've tried that with a paladin friend, we are doing much much better against druid/warrior compare to my priest/lock combo.
Just that my paladin mate got no more than 200 resilience lol
Gihelle
10-19-2007, 07:04 AM
Yeah my pally mate has around 200 resilience aswell.

As weird as it sounds, in Blade's Edge is where we have it easier. I keep the Warrior on the floor and the pally stays on bridge.
efa
10-19-2007, 07:30 AM
BEM is one of the hardest map for me when playing against druid warrior...
Druid got easy mode out of combat trick.
Ryno
10-19-2007, 07:41 AM
only druid/warlock we beat is ones that double summon fel hunters, yes there are a lot even at 2300 that continue to do that instead of void walker
Malheur
10-20-2007, 03:48 AM
Haha, yea seeing there is no high rating UA lock + healer combo with a good win rate, I am guessing it wont work.
But its really sick to play against druid warrior combo specially in the BEM map where the druid can just jump off the bridge and drink up behind the piller.

SL/SL spec (with pet up) dont have the burst to kill the warrior, needless to say
its not easy to keep the pet up.

Really want to try something new to gain more advantage on this sick warrior druid combo.


false , im ua 42/19 we used to kill warrior/druid. For exemple yesterday we killed 3 times the SECOND team in our bracket 2v2 which was warrior/druid (millenium team very good warrior)

i think ua is best than SL against war/druid but its because im with a holy priest so he can dps with me, mc and dispel the warrior for easy victory.

and look at our stats we are on the BEST bracket of EU FR server (cataclysme) and we got 86% wins (70-11) ranked 11 out of ~22 000 teams
Shadowborne
10-20-2007, 03:58 AM
false , im ua 42/19 we used to kill warrior/druid. For exemple yesterday we killed 3 times the SECOND team in our bracket 2v2 which was warrior/druid (millenium team very good warrior)

i think ua is best than SL against war/druid but its because im with a holy priest so he can dps with me, mc and dispel the warrior for easy victory.

and look at our stats we are on the BEST bracket of EU FR server (cataclysme) and we got 86% wins (70-11) ranked 11 out of ~22 000 teams

42/19/0 is not superior to SL/SL agianst druid teams, against Paladin and Priest, yes. But against a druid UA does nothing but add extra DPS, it does not protect your dots and the damage for a 1.5 second cast is impressive but any competent druid should have little issues healing through the damage.

I am sorry, after seeing the Europe teams at the tournaments I was very disappointed with the majority of them and I am not saying all teams are bad, but I definately think the talent pool over there in the majority of the battlegroups is smaller making ranks easier to climb.

Except for Athene of course, he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Either way congratulations on your victory and win/loss it is very impressive nonetheless, I just don't think you should try to persuade everyone UA is the best when you are one of the very few people to have made it work with a non Shaman healer.
Malheur
10-20-2007, 04:19 AM
I agree with u shadowborne, but in my bracket there is a lot of teams which are vulnerable to UA so i think thats why weve got a lot of victory.

In 3v3 im used to play with SL/SL, its better cos im always focus, but in 2v2 with a priest against war/ healer we just never lose with UA.

The only team we have difficulty are double dps team (combo of rogue warlock mage)
efa
10-20-2007, 05:39 AM
Chargin, thx for justify my post with real arena stats, 42/19 is exactly what I am thinking.

I used to be 42/19 long long time ago when I dont even have any arena gear :)

Shadowborne, UA wont affect druid but the extra dps on the warrior = extra pressure on the druid.
Also I can imagine instant HoT will be very useful in assisting manaburn.

Gonna try it with my priest tonight.
Malheur
10-20-2007, 05:47 AM
usually against war/druid the war is going on my pet but i full dot and dps the war while my heal heals the pet.
Some times i go back with my priest, let my pet dies and cast another one in 5,5 sec while my priest heal.
Its in our advantage because during this time war has usually used some cd druid has usually lose some mana and both are usually under the pressure of my dots.

the druid cant cyclone my priest cos he has to heal his war and if he tries i CS him then he loses precious time and war is in a bad position.

If the war go on me, my priest just mc the war and i continue to full dot druid + war. (when war has used DW + his berserker rage i begin to fear him and its easier, but at the begining (10 sec + 30 sec + 10 sec) only MC is working against him)

My priest is used to full dispel the war then the druid has to heal with non instant and i can usually CS him.

By dispelling druids hot his mana drop very fast and i use devour auto cast on druid to dispel his innervate.

If the war focus my priest its easier i just fear druid and full dps war while my priest dot war and dispel war too. Druid cannot heal him due to my pet on him + very high dps and NO hot on war (dispelled by priest)
efa
10-20-2007, 07:01 AM
Just tried 42/19 with my priest partner in a 2150s team and got 6-1 :)
I cant express how much I love it.
The only game we loss to is a druid warrior combo but it was a very very close game, alot easier than the time when I was SL/SL.
I also reckon that this setup is weaker against dual dps but most of the team at high rating are healer + dps anyway.

Million thanks to Chagrin! Now I dont have to ditch my priest partners.