View Full Version : Season 3/2.3 possible build?
Sykeasaurus
10-16-2007, 02:44 AM
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxGMu0MZfVtoc0oZVMgz0to
Just wondering.
I'm concerned about losing:
1) Blessed resilience.
2) Improved mass dispel.
I'm excited about gaining:
1) Blackout procs
2) Silence
3) Debuff protection (Shadow weaving // Vamp embrace)
4) Marginal healing increase (Vamp embrace)
5) Slowing effect (Mind flay)
As an undead priest, it's possible that using inner focus to devouring plague, then shadow word: pain could be viable. (Assuming a few winter's chill or poisons are up). 5s silence for the two teams I've been doing doesn't seem like a bad idea either.
Two teams I've done:
1) Priest/Mage/Rogue -- Got gladiator season 1 with this. Also broke into 2200+ again in season 2 with this.
2) Priest/Mage/Warlock -- Got 2300+ in season 2 with this. Currently #6 in the BG with this.
The new build compliments the 2nd team moreso because of the increased shadow damage, and having 3 silences.
It still compliments the 1st team, which has more burst (imo), because of being able to throw on a 5s silence to the healer when finishing someone off.
Overall, I think this build helps 2's and 3's the most. I'm not sure about 5's, though.
Just wondering what some priests thought. Or outside classes, too.
EDIT: Reasons for losing Blessed resillience:
I think it'll be okay just because I'll be at the resilience cap. So, although blessed resilience is very nice, some of the more offensive things I'm considering speccing into my make up for that defensive loss. Dunno!
xforce27
10-16-2007, 04:24 AM
this is an interesting build, i really like the silence. This build sounds like ur dps and and only heal as a backup since u have all those points invested in shadow tree u'd be wasting it if u werent using a lot of dps spells. Somewhat silly question cuz i dont play shadow but does SW:D proc blackout? I guess it should but i just havent really seen it do so. silence and fear is really deadly because -4s CD from talent and -3s CD from new S3 gloves would be very synergistic, giving u a 23 s CD on psychic scream. I think you've got something going on here cuz that silence is definitely worth the sacrifice of BR but i'm not sure if its worth sacrificing mass dispell, though in my experience people get a heal off while bubbled or iceblocked anyways because they expect the MD and CC u so u cant cast it immediately. With 5s silence and 23s CD on fear, i think u can finish off teams before they even get a chance to use IB or bubble. I definitely need to try this spec though right now i dont have max resilience. damn against pallies if they get CS'd after they trinket out of first sheep, and u throw in silence then fear, its kinda GG.... wow i really need to try this spec...
Sykeasaurus
10-16-2007, 06:21 AM
I'm hoping maybe this/my spec will become popular. Who knows, it could.
Yea, shadow word: pain procs blackout. A long, long time ago when I was shadow (like during honor grinding times), I'd spam rank 1 shadow word: pain to catch up to a melee that was running away.
I just read about the -3s from the gloves. 23s CD on fear could be very hot.
As a dwarf, I think it benefits you the most. Rotating between a 45s CD silence, 30s CD chastise, and 23s CD fear, you can control a healer pretty well.
Just something to consider.
Thanks for the feedback.
buena
10-16-2007, 05:00 PM
Don't take 5/5 shadow focus, it is a raid talent and has very little PvP effect beyond the first point or two. Just take 3 to get to the next rank and get the MB cooldown talent as filler.
Also, if you're doing a potential 3 caster dps why not stop at 5 holy and go down discipline for PI?
Something like http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxGMu0MZfVtoc0oZVMgz0to
Chocolatcity
10-16-2007, 06:18 PM
I have found you syke.( I can't post on the realm or class forums =( )
This is not a 5s build.
You might get gibbed vs rogue/mage or warlock/x teams faster just due to luck but vs warrior teams you will destroy them way faster than normal.
2s = lose to druid/warrior regardless of spec =p
xforce27
10-16-2007, 09:55 PM
I agree with Buena about the dps change, heres what i think would work better because lets be honest, imp healing and divine fury arent all that necessary and neither is blessed recovery.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhruhTtMzZdZVMGdMto
This build focuses on instant cast spells for protection, meditation is getting buffed so i put points in there. PW:S over fort cuz it'll keep u alive longer against warriors and in general.
Also I took 2 out from renew to put in shadow reach, i think its important if not only to get blackout procs more easily.
I think this type of spec opens up a lot of new possibilities for class arrangement / partners and tonight i'm gonna try it out on the PTR. Anyone wanna partner up?
xforce27
10-21-2007, 03:32 PM
Syk how do u manage all your action bars/bindings for this setup. Right now i have dps and healing on action bars 1 and 2 and i'm having trouble switching quickly between the two.
Radzilla
10-24-2007, 08:00 AM
I really like the way this build looks, I would only be concerned with losing mass dispel though. In season 3 this shit could be really hot. Improved Mass dispel is nice, but the utility from the shadow tree is more generalizable than improved mass dispel, so I wouldn't be too concerned with losing it. Can't wait to give this (or some variant of it) a try come next season.
xforce27
10-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Rad look at my link, includes MD
Earrl
10-24-2007, 04:39 PM
Next patch I am probably going to go a 27/34 build that looks something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMRuhgzMZfVt0froV0h
Probably not the best spec in the world, but it certainly opens the game up for me from a 1v1 perspective, while maintaining most of the goodness that is our healing.
Hey, if they're going to give me 1100 talented smites, I'm going to take it. That is all I have to say about that! lol.
Final
10-24-2007, 04:57 PM
Next patch I am probably going to go a 27/34 build that looks something like this:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMRuhgzMZfVt0froV0h
Probably not the best spec in the world, but it certainly opens the game up for me from a 1v1 perspective, while maintaining most of the goodness that is our healing.
Hey, if they're going to give me 1100 talented smites, I'm going to take it. That is all I have to say about that! lol.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxMRuhgzMZfVt0froV0h
If you want smite, get the talent that gives you a chance to proc a free instant one.
Earrl
10-24-2007, 05:17 PM
Except with my 6.79% chance to crit, I would imagine I will be seeing ZERO crits on a 400 resilience target. Making the talent a complete waste. I just want to add some extra secondary damage, not go for some novelty smite spec. My main focus is healing and mana burning. I just want another function as well...
Final
10-24-2007, 08:31 PM
Except with my 6.79% chance to crit, I would imagine I will be seeing ZERO crits on a 400 resilience target. Making the talent a complete waste. I just want to add some extra secondary damage, not go for some novelty smite spec. My main focus is healing and mana burning. I just want another function as well...
I could be wrong, but I thought it procced off of crit heals. Don't quote me on this since I've never had the talent and personally, I think it's a dumb talent but I thought that was the reason it was in the holy tree.
Earrl
10-24-2007, 11:41 PM
Think about it though...a 50% chance to proc on a less than 7% chance to crit. I won't take my odds on that talent :-P.
nubbey
10-25-2007, 12:37 AM
you guys are just going to go oom smiting for shitty damage...why?
Earrl
10-25-2007, 01:58 AM
you guys are just going to go oom smiting for shitty damage...why?
Naw, it is just something extra when targets get low. I think it is common for Priests to throw out a SW:D and so on (at least it is when I am dying in the Arena). The extra spell damage will make finishing a target that much easier. It isn't a case of me wanting to smite, nor do damage. As I said, my role will definitely revolve around healing, dispelling and mana burning, but, I think that the new found Spell Damage will certainly open up game play options for virtually all healers.
In my opinion, it makes no sense not to take advantage of it.
Blessox
10-25-2007, 07:03 AM
Get target LoS from healer, frost nova in place all of your team member nuke him. Even the healer who ditches out 850 smite followed by 750 MB and 750 Sw:D, could be decissive. just an example
padrote
10-30-2007, 04:39 PM
Get target LoS from healer, frost nova in place all of your team member nuke him. Even the healer who ditches out 850 smite followed by 750 MB and 750 Sw:D, could be decissive. just an example
But with that build all you gain is 10% more damage on said smite. That could make the difference once in a blue moon i guess.
This is a build I was thinking of for 2v2/dueling:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxgGuhgtMzxobZV0gz
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