Season 3 weapons

[Nodeuce]

Has anyone seen the season 3 main hand? World of raids has the new staff and offhand listed. I haven't seen the dagger yet. Anyone seen this or know the stats for it?

[Kaizhi]

I'd assume they'd be the same as the s3 gavel, which is posted on mmo-champion atm.

[Pharaun]

Assuming endgame and not grimoire:

30 + 31 = 61 stam
20 + 21 = 41 int
0 0 crit
0 0 pen
17 17 hit
18 + 27 = 45 resil
247 + 35= 282 dmg

vrs.

62 stam
46 int
46 crit
35 pen
0 hit
29 resil
247 dmg

So Staff is

+1 stam
+5 int
+46 crit
+35 pen
-17 hit
-16 resil
-35 dmg

Is 46 crit, 10 hp, a bit of mana, and 35 pen better than 17 hit, 16 resil, and 35 dmg? Question of the month lol.

[Nodeuce]

Assuming endgame and not grimoire:

30 + 31 = 61 stam
20 + 21 = 41 int
0 0 crit
0 0 pen
17 17 hit
18 + 27 = 45 resil
247 + 35= 282 dmg

vrs.

62 stam
46 int
46 crit
35 pen
0 hit
29 resil
247 dmg

So Staff is

+1 stam
+5 int
+46 crit
+35 pen
-17 hit
-16 resil
-35 dmg

Is 46 crit, 10 hp, a bit of mana, and 35 pen better than 17 hit, 16 resil, and 35 dmg? Question of the month lol.


I think it comes down to preference. I'd say the dagger + offhand's +damage/+hit offset for the lack of crit and penetration the staff offers. I don't know the exact numbers, but 35 damage is pretty close to what 46 crit rating scales to in terms of spell damage. I usually go for more straight damage rather than crit. Our crits are already reduced by ~10% with resilience, so I find no use adding an additional ~2% that still puts our effective crit at less than 10%. The majority of our crits will come on frozen targets, and in that situation I don't see the +46 crit from the staff making a big difference. A lot of mages choose the staff solely on looks.

[Earrl]

I think it comes down to preference. I'd say the dagger + offhand's +damage/+hit offset for the lack of crit and penetration the staff offers. I don't know the exact numbers, but 35 damage is pretty close to what 46 crit rating scales to in terms of spell damage. I usually go for more straight damage rather than crit. Our crits are already reduced by ~10% with resilience, so I find no use adding an additional ~2% that still puts our effective crit at less than 10%. The majority of our crits will come on frozen targets, and in that situation I don't see the +46 crit from the staff making a big difference. A lot of mages choose the staff solely on looks.

Get the War Staff Nodeuce (just kidding)!!!! But definitely the Silk Belt, Bracers, Boots next season.

[Zephira]

The damage may offset the crit lost if you use the 1h...but what about the spell penetration for those pesky warlocks? I dunno. I started with staff this season (Yea I was noob, haha. At least I got points quick) and switched to 1h/offhand. With that penetration, the staff is now much more competetive in my opinion. Tough choice.