Aion... How good is it?

[rassmus]

Is it actually that fun? Its not like Warhammer or conan where everyone thinks its awsome but then it sucks donkey ballz...

Whats so "awsome" about it? The graphics? PvP? o.O

MMmkey

[Zanny]

Getting to level 20 I say the graphics are nice, quests are a chore and the running everywhere is the gay.

[dhegin]

Getting to level 20 I say the graphics are nice, quests are a chore and the running everywhere is the gay.

Almost just like WoW.

One thing that is a little handy is being able to stockpile skills/spells ahead of time.


op: Read the Veex blog thread, or any of the tons of threads in here and www.aionsource.com

don't be a lazy retard cunt

[Lightkun]

It's not really that good. It'll do well, and I'll probably play it so I can split my time when I'm playing games to not get burned out by either one.

But I uninstalled the Aion Beta from my comp today because I don't really feel like playing it til its finished.

Maybe it'll be better than, as it is now it won't have a chance of "toppling" WoW.

[Liseda]

I wont play the beta anymore, cba getting bored of a game when it's not even released.
Been running around leveling extremely slow because there is no point in leveling @ beta or anything at all..
I'll buy it when it comes out. (Probably)

[Canas!]

I wont play the beta anymore, cba getting bored of a game when it's not even released.
Been running around leveling extremely slow because there is no point in leveling @ beta or anything at all..
I'll buy it when it comes out. (Probably)

But yesterday you were like OMG AION ROCKS ^____________^ ?

[Fazzmania]

Aionsource is a breeding pool for bad clicking ex lineage 2 players who spam threads about how aion is so much better than WoW in every way, and cite examples arguing wow pvp is simplistic button mashing based on some shoddy boomkin 'pvp video' spamming wrath in some BGs from youtube. the entire site is made up of mouthbreathers.

I agree with above about reading veex's blog though, it makes a lot of sense.

[Fazzmania]

But yesterday you were like OMG AION ROCKS ^____________^ ?

He's right, I pre ordered after leveling to 11 and 14 respectively on CN-Aion, I want the game because it's a good wow alternative.. but leveling is extremely slow, and since PvP starts at 25 that's a fair grind for something that's only going to be erased. Don't forget the beta weekends only run for that, the weekends.

[Deccard]

Been to the abyss yesterday and it's actually pretty cool. At first I thought flying would be stupid and slow, but during the abyss quest you get a book to increase your flight speed.

[Ssjsonhuso]

aion is a cool game, it might not have the finesse of wow but who knows maybe some day? the combat feels really fluid and u can have fun in open pvp with risk of death penalties again. how cool is that? ;)

[Fazzmania]

says the nightelf rogue in full furious gear and 2k ratings.

aion is a cool game, it might not have the finesse of wow but who knows maybe some day? the combat feels really fluid and u can have fun in open pvp with risk of death penalties again. how cool is that? ;)

And you're in the 1500s..?

Ok then.

[Liseda]

But yesterday you were like OMG AION ROCKS ^____________^ ?
It's good, but there is no point in grinding @beta.
(I had gathering quests left :()

[Ryantor]

pretty decent game from the 10 lvls i played, its more enjoyable to lvl imo

[Roonskii]

it's a fun game, it's only beta also. one thing i enjoy about the game is that it isnt what class you play, it's your skill level, unlike WoW where u just run with a dk and you know whats good

[Kaiah]

He's right, I pre ordered after leveling to 11 and 14 respectively on CN-Aion, I want the game because it's a good wow alternative.. but leveling is extremely slow, and since PvP starts at 25 that's a fair grind for something that's only going to be erased. Don't forget the beta weekends only run for that, the weekends.

o.O Took me about 30 hours total (while leveling handicrafting, gathering to 100+) to get to 25. Remove handicrafting/gathering and its like 24-26 hours.

Leveling speed is fine, although admittly I haven't done 40-45 (C-aion) or 45-50.

People will be 32+ (maybe more) in the headstart alone.

[dhegin]

I agree, people have gotten way too used to blizzard baby'ing everything the do.

[Tremos]

I don't know. Look the game has some really nice aspects;

Graphics;
Spell graphics;
Background fluff content;

I only played to level 14 and the game does have potential. I just didn't get hooked into anything.

MMO's are becoming to time consuming, so IDK.

[Jentiana]

I personally love the game, quitting WoW for it. However, leveling after 40+ is not easy. Not even close to how WoW is now. I personally like that aspect of it.

Hopefully NCSoft can keep lag check in the Abyss and fortress seiges and it will be golden.

[mav1234]

1) PvP can begin at 19 technically because I believe that is when you can get to the first rifted zones. 25 is the Abyss, which is the main PvP area, but you can rift before that. EDIT: Rifts are portals between leveling zones for certain amounts and level of people. You can hop through them and do specific quests in the other zone while fighting other players.
2) I found leveling to be faster than in WoW Classic at low levels. If you consider the game's max level to be 50 instead of 80, leveling speed is a bit slower than present-day WoW at low levels but not that bad. They are also supposedly speeding it up. Keep in mind that right now, Elyos have far better quests than Asmodians (I've played both to 22+, and it's true >.<).
3) To the above poster, they added hundreds of quests that speed up leveling around 40, so if you are playing in CAion, it's not like how it will be on US live...

[greenmacheen]

i hope to god it isn't like conan... wait, i probably will save myself the mistake of being an early adapter and wait it out for a month or two and then decide whether its worth buying. the first 20-30 levels of conan were "ok", but then after about level 40 the game just took a huge nosedive into a pile of shit. (i am not even mentioning all the clipping on maps or the abundance of errors and lack of Cust Service) End game leveling was a mix of just that and world pvp... control of the high level zones so you could have your guild mates power level you to 80. So... this time i think i will just wait it out and see how good/bad the game is.

[Bloodriot]

Aionsource is a breeding pool for bad clicking ex lineage 2 players who spam threads about how aion is so much better than WoW in every way, and cite examples arguing wow pvp is simplistic button mashing based on some shoddy boomkin 'pvp video' spamming wrath in some BGs from youtube. the entire site is made up of mouthbreathers.

I agree with above about reading veex's blog though, it makes a lot of sense.

best post i have seen descibing aionsource.

[Wibang]

Is it actually that fun? Its not like Warhammer or conan where everyone thinks its awsome but then it sucks donkey ballz...

Whats so "awsome" about it? The graphics? PvP? o.O

MMmkey

Download game called Rappelz, its free and its 100% like Aion.

Awesomeness graphs, bad gameplay, pure grinding. Koreans can only make grind games. Im Sorry.

[Petrosian]

Download game called Rappelz, its free and its 100% like Aion.

Awesomeness graphs, bad gameplay, pure grinding. Koreans can only make grind games. Im Sorry.

There are so many posts like this from people who have never played Aion, or played like 1-10 in some early Beta and made a judgment. It's certainly a good game for the MMO genre, you may not like it as much as WoW but it's good regardless. For someone to say it's "pure grinding" or has "bad gameplay" just proves you haven't actually played it, are reading reviews from 900 rated WoW fanboy scrubs on Youtube, and should be eating through a tube because you probably can't manage to lift a fork to your mouth IRL. Later.

[Pharaun]

This is NOT a grind game by most measures. I've played grind heavy Korean games, and this shit doesn't come close man. If they fuck it up with too much grinding, it will at least be much less of a fuckup than previous Korean ports to US/EU.

[Linalol]

gonna try it out

[Jentiana]

Download game called Rappelz, its free and its 100% like Aion.

Awesomeness graphs, bad gameplay, pure grinding. Koreans can only make grind games. Im Sorry.

You're an idiot.

[Iazy]

all aion is is another overhyped mmo that will fall flat after a month. exhibit a: warhammer.
AMG WARHAMMER ARE TEH KEWLS I HAS A CANCEL MEMBARSHEIP. owait pvp - cc = fail
One month later
Yea im renewing my subscription guys, only now im a full season behind on gear.

Learn from the past plx

[Teddymonster]

all aion is is another overhyped mmo that will fall flat after a month. exhibit a: warhammer.
AMG WARHAMMER ARE TEH KEWLS I HAS A CANCEL MEMBARSHEIP. owait pvp - cc = fail
One month later
Yea im renewing my subscription guys, only now im a full season behind on gear.

Learn from the past plx

You have no clue wow fanboi, and did not provide one fact to why your retarded theory holds water. I played 9 months of warhammer and it was the most broken MMO ever produced. AoC wasn't much better, but Warhammer had:

Horrible performace
Horrible balance
Horrible dungeons
Lowest skill cap possible
Horrible gear sets (stats)
Horrible RvR design
Horrible Fort/City siege design
Random crashes
Hundreds on new bugs in each patch
etc etc etc

A year later WAR is still broken and still a Beta in reality. In comparison I've played 3 Aion closed betas now and did not see a single bug, performance was perfect, pvp is anti-button masher w/ a good skill cap and has decent balance.

[Fatalis2]

All that matters is "End Game" whats there going to be?

[Liseda]

pvp is anti-button masher.
Hmm?
Whole aion is button mashing basically.

[Teddymonster]

Hmm?
Whole aion is button mashing basically.

Every ability in the game (except a few heals) has a CD and/or is part of a skill chain. There's literally no possible way to button mash. So you're just wrong in point of fact. :rolleyes:

[Liseda]

Every ability in the game (except a few heals) has a CD and/or is part of a skill chain. There's literally no possible way to button mash. So you're just wrong in point of fact. :rolleyes:
Not really.
skill chain buttons automatically change to the next skill in the chain.

[Deccard]

skill chain buttons automatically change to the next skill in the chain.Yes and no. They automatically change, but if a skill chain branches, it's not as easy as hitting a single button.
Besides, an Aion character at level30 has as much or more skills than wow's level80s

[keLston]

Is it actually like that 3v3 tournament video they released where it was a 15min fight video but 12 minutes of it was running a giant circle around an open arena waiting for cooldowns?

[Deccard]

From my experience no. I can't comprehend why they weren't snaring or something. But I also did not play at level 50

[Liseda]

Yes and no. They automatically change, but if a skill chain branches, it's not as easy as hitting a single button.
Besides, an Aion character at level30 has as much or more skills than wow's level80s
I still think Aion got a lower skill cap.

Is it actually like that 3v3 tournament video they released where it was a 15min fight video but 12 minutes of it was running a giant circle around an open arena waiting for cooldowns?
Actually no..
That's just extremely defensive :<

[Bloodriot]

I still think Aion got a lower skill cap.



We would likely have to wait a 6 months-year before that can be tested. Bcos its not like WoWs skill cap has always been the way it is now. In s1 Focus Intercepting or Focus anything was rarely used. The Fear>Trinket>Blind>Sap CC chain wasnt used. Or atleast the sap after the blind wasnt. Using SW: D as a CC breaker and vanish to block CCs was a rare occerance in early seasons. Ofc Aion is in ever early stages than s1. I also saw no evidence of this type of "skill in and vanilla WoW vids or s1/s2 vids. So we will have to wait and see what the Aion player base can come up with.

[Liseda]

We would likely have to wait a 6 months-year before that can be tested. Bcos its not like WoWs skill cap has always been the way it is now. In s1 Focus Intercepting or Focus anything was rarely used. The Fear>Trinket>Blind>Sap CC chain wasnt used. Or atleast the sap after the blind wasnt. Using SW: D as a CC breaker and vanish to block CCs was a rare occerance in early seasons. Ofc Aion is in ever early stages than s1. I also saw no evidence of this type of "skill in and vanilla WoW vids or s1/s2 vids. So we will have to wait and see what the Aion player base can come up with.
ok.

[Cronoh]

Are you able to play beta right now? Or is the beta currently closed? Having a hard time finding information on this (Looks like all the closed betas are over, is open beta currently going on?)

[Liseda]

Are you able to play beta right now? Or is the beta currently closed? Having a hard time finding information on this (Looks like all the closed betas are over, is open beta currently going on?)
No, it's 6 days left to the open beta.

[Deccard]

Are you able to play beta right now? Or is the beta currently closed? Having a hard time finding information on this (Looks like all the closed betas are over, is open beta currently going on?)If you want to give it a try, you can play the chinese version with an english language pack. Here's a tutorial: http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-guides/18026-complete-cn-aion-getting-started-guide.html

[ko0fy]

Didnt liked it

[Terrana]

I enjoy the game quite alot at the moment, there are some issues, but all in all it is fresh and exciting, something that cannot excactly be said about WoW anymore (even though it is a great game).

The single fact that levelling is quite an adventure in a stunning and new world (Cryengine ftw) makes it worth giving a try.

[glover_m]

going to give it at least till end game.

i was a little bit annoyed with how the gcd works (i think it's based on attack animations or something?), but other than that, seemed good enough to drag old daoc pals into it

[Terrana]

i was a little bit annoyed with how the gcd works (i think it's based on attack animations or something?)
Yes, it is animation driven (which is a pretty silly mistake) but so was Age of Conan to begin with and they fixed that, so my bet is that will happen in Aion as well pretty soon

[wmd221]

Yes, it is animation driven (which is a pretty silly mistake) but so was Age of Conan to begin with and they fixed that, so my bet is that will happen in Aion as well pretty soon

Personally I think the animation based GCD is great. But anyway the game has been out for over a year now and I don't think they really have any intention or consideration for changing it.

[Terrana]

Personally I think the animation based GCD is great. But anyway the game has been out for over a year now and I don't think they really have any intention or consideration for changing it.
The issue with animation driven game mechanics is that size and specific animations of a character will influence the use of skills. In Conan male and female characters hit at different speeds with the same gear, simply because of difference in size.
Imagine if a Tauren warrior could not get as high DPS as a gnome with a fast weapon, simply because his animations took longer to finish - that is not good for balance :)

[wmd221]

The issue with animation driven game mechanics is that size and specific animations of a character will influence the use of skills. In Conan male and female characters hit at different speeds with the same gear, simply because of difference in size.
Imagine if a Tauren warrior could not get as high DPS as a gnome with a fast weapon, simply because his animations took longer to finish - that is not good for balance :)

Fortunately we're not playing Age of Conan ;)

[Mitosis]

I dunno what to think about it. It looks good but I am not forking over money until it proves itself not to fall into the "ncsoft" trap as I like to call it.

As in, when you hit max level there is dick all to do, and it sucks. But up to that is pretty fun.

I mean ncsoft isn't exactly known for their "quality" rather than quantity.

[Bloodriot]

ok.

what, its true :(

[Pharaun]

The issue with animation driven game mechanics is that size and specific animations of a character will influence the use of skills. In Conan male and female characters hit at different speeds with the same gear, simply because of difference in size.
Imagine if a Tauren warrior could not get as high DPS as a gnome with a fast weapon, simply because his animations took longer to finish - that is not good for balance :)That's not inherent with animation driven games, but rather an indication of very poorly balanced and thought out animation delays (among other things, such as gender imbalance).

[Terrana]

That's not inherent with animation driven games, but rather an indication of very poorly balanced and thought out animation delays (among other things, such as gender imbalance).
Yes, it is poor thought out - but in general if you set animations to get priority over gamemechanics/skills you will very often get issues like that.
An example could be an Ele shaman in WoW - sometimes you can get a lot of procs and stuff and it is then impossible for the animations to keep up with all the actions you can execute at once.

In a gameplay driven game like WoW, the solution is to cut/skip animations in order not to hinder the use of skills - however in an animation driven game, that situation would often lead to delays, since animations have highest priority.

[wmd221]

Yes, it is poor thought out - but in general if you set animations to get priority over gamemechanics/skills you will very often get issues like that.
An example could be an Ele shaman in WoW - sometimes you can get a lot of procs and stuff and it is then impossible for the animations to keep up with all the actions you can execute at once.

In a gameplay driven game like WoW, the solution is to cut/skip animations in order not to hinder the use of skills - however in an animation driven game, that situation would often lead to delays, since animations have highest priority.

Fortunately "like" and "if" don't apply to Aion's actual gameplay.

[Terrana]

Fortunately "like" and "if" don't apply to Aion's actual gameplay.
My experience with Aion is that there are some situations where your character is "locked" while you have to wait for animations to finish. If i target a mob and activate a spell, then i'll first have to wait while i go into combat mode (playing "draw weapon animation") before the casting bar actually appears and i start charging the spell.
Same thing happens when the casting bar is complete and the spell is launched; i then have to wait 0.5 sec or so before i can run off while the animation finishes.

Some of it might be due to lag though (playing chinese version atm), hope it is a bit more fluent on EU launch

NB: Maybe the issue is mainly with casters and not melee? - It struck me as most noticable when playing a sorcerer

[Terrana]

Ok, got a chance to check it out now on EU OB, all the initial delay is gone, so that was (is) just lag when playing on chinese version. There is however still a little delay after casting a spell for no apparent reason (other than some animation stuff i suppose).

[Slappywag]

More than just a new craze, I'll show you who's rock'n'roll.

[Fluffyncute]

will i be able to afk heal while my dps mealts the faces off of everyone for free leveling?
Edit: How good is the latency in the game. Im used to playing between 23-80 MS

[wmd221]

Kind of sort of? Most mobs hit pretty hard so you have to pay attention for the most part. By hit pretty hard I mean literally most cloth classes that don't have damage shield up will get killed in 1 hit.